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Eman says
Same with using HVAC as the consume more battery.
On that Bolt EUV I had, the battery was constantly cooled and if you wanted A/C, it tapped off of the battery cooler. Running A/C did not affect the range, however running a heater did. That A/C was quite powerful and cooled the cabin fast.
I just don't understand why they wouldn't put more thought into the look of the cars though. There are so many cars out there that look a lot better than a Tesla.
Eman says
EV may not make economic and practical sense for everyone, but it does for some.
Yes, particularly to those who collect others tax money under "gov incentives" ;) this incentives can apply to so many other vehicles under business expenses.
(PS: I have to admit that I am one of them to be honest for my Tesla plaid model s)
The government is the one who came up with these incentives. Sorry, but we don’t get to decide. It is what it is.
Aerodynamic would be my guess. The S looks good.
As I previously mentioned, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Joe Rogan in 30 sec on the Cybertruck.
https://x.com/nicklasnilsso14/status/1758777471833415925?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q
WookieMan says
I drove a Pontiac Aztec for 2 years
Everyone I knew that had an Aztec loved it.
If the country was all EVs. then there would be no gas stations and chargepoints/battery swaps would have been everywhere. As far as the new ICE vehicles, people would ask "Where are you going to refuel? Are you going to have a tanker truck follow you around?" "Even if you had fueling stations, those stations would have to be constantly serviced by tankers or run out quickly. Much easier to use the battery swap-outs that are serviced by existing power lines. "I hear you have to change the crankcase lubricant every few thousand miles, what will we do with that hazardous waste?" "Also, ICE engines are very noisy, require transmissions and thus lose efficiency, thus ICE cars are slow accelerating."
100 years ago we had cars powered by gasoline, steam, alcohol, and even electric. Gas won out over time.
Without ICE cars, electric grid would not have progressed much beyond lighting use (with frequent residential fires due to wire shorts), and battery technology not much beyond lead-acid
Reality says
Without ICE cars, electric grid would not have progressed much beyond lighting use (with frequent residential fires due to wire shorts), and battery technology not much beyond lead-acid
Could be, but I was answering on that premise "all cars are EV."
Porkchop,
Serious question. Have you ever owned an EV or a Tesla? My wife and I used to be ICE car drivers, and we don’t see ourselves ever going back to to ICE cars.
I've never owned an EV but I have driven them and they are indeed fun to drive. If I owned a home in CA, AZ or NV, I'd probably own an EV if I had solar on my house. But, it still probably wouldn't make economic sense but neither do many things I do...I just do them because I want to. I don't put a lot of miles on my car because I work from home, and I live in TN where EV infrastructure is more scarce. If someone does a lot of driving, especially city driving, I could see it making sense.
In the absence of ICE car demand for gasoline (and diesel), there wouldn't have been the petrochemical industry that has produced the plastic insulators (tubes/wire-wraps/coatings) for electric lines. Electricity distribution into households would have continued using the Knob-and-Tube method,
We can't even do 10% EV's currently. We're at 3% max. Your light in your home would not turn on if we got to 10% at current grid capabilities in most areas. CA grid is toast if EV's double in the next year or two. It's already shit anyway.
Over 25% of all new cars sold in California last year were electric.
California has one of the shittiest and least reliable grids in the US, so if California can cope - so will most everyone else.
Not saying that we don't have to improve our energy grid - but it is not an insurmountable task.
You get a hot summer and you guys are fucked even if you have the free super charger. Your car won't work.
Did it win any awards for being fugly?
Looking at getting one of the new 3's for the wife and handing her Hyundai Santa Fe down to one of my kids.
I hope the Model Y gets its update before next January when I am due to turn in my lease and get a new Tesla. All the reviews on the upgraded 3 are very good.
Good choice. It’s getting raving reviews. The hope for the refreshed Y is this summer, or later this year at the latest.
Solar was not a viable option while he drives an X
Eman says
Solar was not a viable option while he drives an X
Then that $10k installed generator will not be viable for that X either. Both solar and that price generator would be around 25kW.
Eman says
Good choice. It’s getting raving reviews. The hope for the refreshed Y is this summer, or later this year at the latest.
I hope you are right. They have to be cagey about announcing so they don't "Osbourne" current Model Y orders.
Based on my tracking, Tesla draws about 9.6 kW/hour on a 50A circuit breaker so it should work just fine. Owner also has the option to reduce it down to 40A, or 30A, or even less if desired.
I don't get the disconnect here with you Eman and Socal.
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