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KgK one says

Sora is amazing at videos. We are still early in this but progress is ridiculously fast.

Its going to be a major disruptive technology to Hollywood. Look at how the movie 300 was revolutionary in regards to green screen film making, as well as computer generated imagery (CGI) with Tron (1982) and Westworld (1973). And now there is free and open source CGI apps such as Blender.

This is going to have a vastly greater impact. The only question is how can it be prevented from being exploited as far as creating deepfake videos ?

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HeadSet says

Computers in the 1980s were unable to have an original thought and neither can any computers today. AI in reality is just an auto-summary device.

This isn't true.

A computer can create something new. When chips are routed, the shortest traces and least number of traces is what is desired. With a billion gates, that number of traces is very high. You do this with what is called simulated annealing. You put a computer (or a bank of computers) to work randomly doing placement and routing, and then you compare all the solutions against one another. The least worst solutions are combined sometimes with randomness, and then it's tried again, and again, and again and again.

When you're done running it, there's virtually no improvement or no improvement.

No human being or team of computers can create a result as good as the computer simulation did.

It all boils down to what you consider "thinking". It might just be random ideas that turn out to be useful, and in simulated annealing, it's just randomness combined with what was found to be previously useful.

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This is going to have a vastly greater impact.

Hollywood is dead.

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The only question is how can it be prevented from being exploited as far as creating deepfake videos ?

It can't be.

richwicks says

AD says

This is going to have a vastly greater impact.

Hollywood is dead.

AD says

The only question is how can it be prevented from being exploited as far as creating deepfake videos ?

It can't be.

Rich,

AI is a tool like the free and open source Blender is a tool for multimedia specialists, and FreeCAD is a tool as well for someone to be their own draftsman.

You've mentioned AI has helped you for your computer programming efforts.

I refer to "Hollywood" as the film or video industry which is anything from TV shows that are streamed online to movies like Top Gun Maverick shown in theaters to documentaries on PBS Nova and Nature.

Atlanta is the new "Hollywood".

Also it can be immersive video shown in amusement venues such as at Wonder Works and Ripleys Believe it or Not in Panama City Beach.

Tyler Perry is worth $1 billion as a Hollywood celebrity and executive. He knows how AI is going to revolutionize the film industry just like the automated telephone switching system replaced operators and CAD revolutionized engineering.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/entertainment/tyler-perry-halts-800-million-studio-expansion-due-ai-advancements

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A.I. has been around for a 10+ years. Amazon put it in a box and called it alexa. She has got to be one smart bitch by now.

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Tyler Perry is worth $1 billion as a Hollywood celebrity and executive. He knows how AI is going to revolutionize the film industry just like the automated telephone switching system replaced operators and CAD revolutionized engineering.

No.

What is going to happen is people at HOME are going to start producing product that is superior to what large corporations to, for fun. Large corporations won't pander to the audience, they are a propaganda mechanism although few people realize that. They are social and political propaganda. This is why Disney keeps producing "woke" content, as does everybody else. There are people that will produce content that people want.

You know how our "news" media makes crap, and all they do is argue and misdirect, and talk about things nobody really cares about? Listening to "news" is just painful to me, can you sit through a 1/2 of The View or CNN, or MSNBC or Fox? Can you get through a full article in the NY Times or The Economist? I only look at those to see what bullshit being pushed. Nobody watches it anymore except for old people and the young people too brainwashed to know they are consuming garbage. People found alternatives.

Entertainment isn't any different. Can you name a modern film star. We had from Cary Grant up to Tom Hanks - we don't have them anymore. Charlie Chaplin, Rock Hudson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Charlton Heston, James Stewart, Charlie Chaplin. You can name a ton of names before 2000..

They are attempts to stop this by locking down YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, but that's not going to work. They aren't just locking down to protect political propaganda, but social propaganda. For our entire lives, TELEVISION has been the main driver of what people think. It really is. It determines what is socially acceptable, how people should act, what kind of clothing they should wear, everything. Every social phenomenon we've gone through wasn't reflected by television, it was PROMOTED by television first.

But that's stopped. Think about fashion - you can wear a shirt that you bought in 1990, and nobody would think anything of it. Try wearing clothing from 1950 in 1980, or clothing 1960 in 1990. People might think "oh, we're not progressing", actually we are. People are falling out of being led around by the nose because people don't pay attention to it anymore.

Entertainment is going away, because it's going through a last change, and that's actual entertainment, not corporate social propaganda. They've been able to push society along, for SO LONG, but that's stalling. AI is going to KILL the entertainment industry because if it doesn't produce what people ACTUALLY want, they'll go elsewhere. Good riddance to the old system. It's going to produce what people want, and if doesn't, people won't bother with it. It's going to drive the cost of "entertainment" down to zero. Really, we're already there.


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That's entertainment to me. I'm listening to it now, as I work. I used to be a film buf, and I can barely stand a film now.

The adults now grew up with television, but the next generation, they grew up with television and internet, and the kids growing up today, they are on the Internet, and you can find anything there.

richwicks says

What is going to happen is people at HOME are going to start producing product that is superior to what large corporations to, for fun.

Not at all. The home user does not have the talent to come up with entertaining stories. Just like the advent of desktop publishing did not create a nation of novelists, AI will not create a nation of filmmakers. We already have small video production companies all over the country and all AI will do is give them another tool. At best, this AI will remove the high pay of specific actors (when you can create a realistic looking action figure or use a public domain likeness like Charlie Chapman or George Washington), lower the costs of special effects, and some decentralization of Hollywood. It will still take companies that can coordinate writing and acting talent to produce watchable content. Otherwise, it just more of what you already can see on Youtube with "how-to" and political comment videos, or stolen content where some guy combines music he did not produce with videos of dancing he did not produce while considering himself a creator. True, some folks have great videos of playing classic songs on a synth or guitar, but that is hardly a feature film or even a TV episode.

richwicks says

But that's stopped. Think about fashion - you can wear a shirt that you bought in 1990, and nobody would think anything of it. Try wearing clothing from 1950 in 1980, or clothing 1960 in 1990. People might think "oh, we're not progressing", actually we are. People are falling out of being led around by the nose because people don't pay attention to it anymore.

Yes, as far as the religion of (fashion) consumerism not being as subscribed to by the masses.

I saw that in the 1980s as far as kids (i.e., mostly females) in my high school who were hyper focused on wearing popular clothing like Izod Lacoste, Guess Jeans, Louis Vuitton sunglasses, etc.

As the wearing of this fashionware was associated with status such as socioeconomic in a "perception was reality" culture.

Society is maturing/evolving and in a way I have optimism as somewhat in a Gene Roddenberry/Star Trek-way.

I see your point as "Hollywood" or the "film (propaganda) industry" is going to become more irrelevant and obsolete just like the fashion industry has been relatively losing relevance.
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you can wear a shirt that you bought in 1990, and nobody would think anything of it

Yes, but most would not be caught dead in bell bottoms or Disco era polyester.

HeadSet says

Not at all. The home user does not have the talent to come up with entertaining stories. Just like the advent of desktop publishing did not create a nation of novelists

It's not the same as novelists. Who is Joe Rogan? Who is Dr. John Campbell? Who is Alex Jones? Who is James Corbette? You may not know all those names, but NONE of them has shown up on television and they aren't artificially promoted - well, Jones might have been for a while. These are organic actual creations as a result of people just being FUCKING FED UP with the "news'.

HeadSet says

AI will not create a nation of filmmakers.

No, it won't. It's going to destroy film itself.

AI isn't just going to be a tool, it's going to be a replacement, and it will get boring quick.

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Society is maturing/evolving and in a way I have optimism as somewhat in a Gene Roddenberry/Star Trek-way.

So do I. I think we're maturing in that the population can no longer be tricked into focusing on the jingling keys.

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I see your point as "Hollywood" or the "film (propaganda) industry" is going to become more irrelevant and obsolete just like the fashion industry has been relatively losing relevance.

They are the same to me, fashion and spectacle.

HeadSet says

Yes, but most would not be caught dead in bell bottoms or Disco era polyester.

This is my point. Typical 70's clothing is a Halloween costume now. I don't think that clothing will differ much in 2050 from what it does now and it doesn't really differ from the late 1990s.

I think the big change is that visual reproduction is so good. We are NOT going to improve on video reproduction, because it's perfect now. You look at a photograph from 1950, and you can tell it's the 1950's. You won't be able to tell if a video today was made in 2015 or today. Actually, that's true since 2010 really.

Audio reproduction is perfect, video reproduction is perfect. It's not black and white, you don't hear scratches on the record or tape hiss, the picture isn't fuzzy or interlaced and low resolution, it's going to become increasingly impossible to distinguish between what was made today, and 100 years ago, and in time 1000 years ago.

Our language changed from the 1930's to the 1970's. New slang terms showed up in the 1990's for the Internet, but it's becoming more rare. We are solidifying, and that's a good thing but the power structure doesn't want that, so they throw in all the crazy they can, but people aren't biting.

We have all this transgender and homosexual bullshit being pushed - people aren't biting. Sure, there's a lot of hoopla made about it on the propaganda box, but do you see this in reality? I don't, and I'm in crazytown central silly con valley, commiefornia. I can see the loss of influence of television, and locking down Twitter, YouTube and Facebook isn't working, new competitors just pop up. That's not going to stop, in fact, it will increase. The last step is complete decentralization of everything. We're going to return to small communities in time.

HeadSet says

Yes, but most would not be caught dead in bell bottoms or Disco era polyester.

Dude, for weddings I wear some crazy suits. My prom photo is hilarious. I wore my dad's suit and leather heeled man shoes from the 70's. This was in 2001.

I dress normal day to day. Kind of look like a fisherman, so tan and green tones hence why my son calls me Shrek. But I have fun for events. Have one Saturday and need to figure that out. And yes, I'm straight. I just have fun with picking shit out. Do it for my wife's swimwear and a few other outfits for her. I gotta look at her, so might as well have be something I like. She's cool with it. I think it's fun to do retro or weird stuff.

richwicks says

We have all this transgender and homosexual bullshit being pushed - people aren't biting. Sure, there's a lot of hoopla made about it on the propaganda box, but do you see this in reality?

Yes. It is happening in classrooms, school board meetings (a lawyer accused a school board member of being an anti trans bigot for opposing cross dressing story hour), churches are actively promoting it, even the pope is “blessing” same sex couples. You said you owe an apology to everyone who said gay marriage was going to accelerate the moral depravity. Well guess what, in 10 more years of this it could be that pedophilia and rape are considered human rights. There is a kid at a local elementary school who “identifies” as a T-Rex. Half of the moms my age in my area have a kid who identifies as he opposite sex or “other.” My workplace actively promotes this as well through DEI initiatives.

Only the ignorant would assert that wokism is not changing our future just like gay marriage did around a decade ago. It is the normal progression when people lose their moral compass and don’t turn to God for their truth.

richwicks says

The last step is complete decentralization of everything. We're going to return to small communities in time.

More willingly ignorant wishful thinking. The trend toward larger central government, centralized infrastructure (either Apple or android/google knows more about the cell phone user than the user does!) onStar knows more about their car than most people do, there are CBDC being prepped to control all commerce, they are working on microchips to interact with the human brain. Already nearly every university, church, business and government is controlled by the globalists and tyrants. We argue over the questions of who is at fault for all the wars, when in fact the globalists (semi-secretive centralized dictatorship) are manipulating Both sides of nearly every conflict.

PeopleUnited says

There is a kid at a local elementary school who “identifies” as a T-Rex.

This might be the funniest thing I've read in a decade. I can't stop laughing. WTF??

I agree with your points though. But I can't stop laughing about that line. We've gone bat shit crazy as a society when men dressing as women and it's entertainment, supposedly.

Sorry. T-Rex. I'm legit crying laughing. This might go on all day. lol.

Yeah, no kidding! His school (and his parents) allow him to wear some reptilian headgear during the school day, and then after school he puts on the rest of his “identity “ costume.

Response should be: We only teach human children here, not reptiles. Off you go, now.

PeopleUnited says

Yes. It is happening in classrooms, school board meetings (a lawyer accused a school board member of being an anti trans bigot for opposing cross dressing story hour), churches are actively promoting it, even the pope is “blessing” same sex couples.

The pope hasn't condoned same sex marriage. I was raised Catholic and I grew up with this bullshit about the media reporting the pope said this or that, when he didn't. The Church is an institution that is over 1000 years ago, and it doesn't change on a dime because of the latest fad in society.

PeopleUnited says

You said you owe an apology to everyone who said gay marriage was going to accelerate the moral depravity.

Yep, I do. There's no end to it. We can never get to a "good place", they have to go further, and further and further all the time, so I say just stop. It's no different with the other side, if they banned gay marriage, they would keep pushing until homosexuality resulted in the death penalty. I'm tired of being stuck between two nutcases pulling a rope I'm tangled up in.

PeopleUnited says

There is a kid at a local elementary school who “identifies” as a T-Rex. Half of the moms my age in my area have a kid who identifies as he opposite sex or “other.”

Where do you live? Do ANYBODY else here have this experience?

PeopleUnited says

My workplace actively promotes this as well through DEI initiatives.

Then you work for a company that is living dinosaur.

I've worked for both. In a startup, we don't give a FUCK about what you are doing in your private life, and at work, you WORK. At home, you work. There's extreme levels of performance expected and required. There's no time at all for this intersectional bullshit.

PeopleUnited says

Only the ignorant would assert that wokism is not changing our future just like gay marriage did around a decade ago. It is the normal progression when people lose their moral compass and don’t turn to God for their truth.

Oh please, I've seen this over and over again within my own lifetime and culture. This is a flash in the pan hullabaloo about nothing. Companies that bend the knee will just die. Google was THE undisputed king of information retrieval, it's now literally the last place I go for anything. Microsoft is going to falter, YouTube is no better than television - mindless garbage on it, Facebook is for grandparents to connect with their grandchildren.

In a free market system, it fixes itself, but people don't see our government is actively trying to kill the free market. This is why Amazon does so well, they have an entirely different tax system, and the government shovels money at them.

PeopleUnited says

More willingly ignorant wishful thinking. The trend toward larger central government, centralized infrastructure (either Apple or android/google knows more about the cell phone user than the user does!) onStar knows more about their car than most people do

You don't understand, people will abandon it. You're not dependent on your phone or your government, you just think you are, you're used to it. When there's enough push and shove, people just leave.

For example, people for YEARS have been asking Pedowood to stop pushing an agenda, and Pedowood has responded by continuing to do this. Well, lo and behold, people don't have to pay for movie tickets after all, or buy streaming services, or have a television.

More delusional ranting.

Here is just one fact that shows how out of touch the previous poster is.

“ Streaming services are more popular than ever

Over the past several years, streaming services have seen a surge in popularity — 78% of U.S. households have at least a Netflix, Amazon Prime, and/or Hulu subscription, compared with 69% in 2018, and 52% in 2015, according to research by media consultancy firm Leichtman Research Group, Inc.

In 2020, subscribership for streaming companies soared. Netflix added 37 million subscribers to the platform, and Hulu reached 38.8 million subscribers. However, Disney+ had the real Cinderella story of 2020, growing to more than 73 million subscribers by the end of the fourth quarter.”

https://financebuzz.com/streaming-survey

Streaming and cable and OTA viewers are not growing Audiences as fast as they used to, but screen time is not decreasing for the majority of people.

Karloff says

Response should be: We only teach human children here, not reptiles. Off you go, now.

How about a referral to psychiatric specialist for both parents and child.

PeopleUnited says

Over the past several years, streaming services have seen a surge in popularity

We love the free streaming services like Pluto TV, Tubi, FreeVee, and Roku. We do not pay for any subscription service.

We also get about 20 high definition or digital channels over the air such as CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, MeTV, Grit TV, Great Entertainment TV (GET), Outside Channel and Scripps News Channel. The local PBS station (WFSU) broadcasts multiple channels.

I agree as people are watching TV like my wife will read her email while watching the news on Live Now from Fox. Those streaming services like Live Now from Fox and Pluto TV can be watched on a computer or tablet.

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We also get about 20 high definition or digital channels over the air such as CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, MeTV, Grit TV, Great Entertainment TV (GET), Outside Channel and Scripps News Channel. The local PBS station (WFSU) broadcasts multiple channels.

I put a large antenna in my attic and I get about 60 over the air digital channels, as my house is midway between Norfolk and Richmond and picks up from both cities. I do not even bother with streaming. I have just internet from Cox, and the price just dropped to $59/mo because a competing provider just put fiber in my neighborhood. Cox still charges $89 for just internet in places where they have no competition.

Adolf Hitler in English AI Reconstruction

https://youtu.be/8QgXIFzQi0Y?si=yhkLCola2X2WmOgv

HeadSet says

as my house is midway between Norfolk and Richmond

Williamsburg or Yorktown ?

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HeadSet says

as my house is midway between Norfolk and Richmond

Williamsburg or Yorktown ?

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Williamsburg

RWSGFY says

Many may just want AI to earn them money so they can hire people to do their laundry and dishes.

RWSGFY says

That the Bay Bridge under construction? Because it was built before WW2.

Is saying something intelligent by accident considered artificial intelligence?

HeadSet says

I put a large antenna in my attic and I get about 60 over the air digital channels

the problem I have with a system like that is I would only get to choose from whatever is on at the moment which would be nothing I would want to watch anyways.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

RWSGFY says

That the Bay Bridge under construction? Because it was built before WW2.

Most likely 1934-35. The carrier closest to the viewer is USS Lexington (built in the mid-1920's, sunk in 1942). The heavy cruiser to its right rear is likely USS San Francisco (commissioned in early 1934) with its tripod mast (New Orleans Class). The other two big ships are battleships of the "Standard Type" built late in WW1 and early 1920's, with their original "cage masts" before later modifications in the late 1930's and WW2.

Artificial Intelligence is the new hype. Its like a carnival barker mentality.

Every bubble has some type of hype. Go back as "recent" as the dot.com and internet stocks bubble of 2000 and look at they hysteria-level hype back then.

Just look at how rich Mark Cuban got with Broadcast.com being bought by Yahoo for around $5.3 billion around 1999, and then a few years later Yahoo shuts it down.

At least this time the "hype stocks" like AMZN and GOOGL are making money as compared to the likes of Garden.com and Pets.com.

Are you all seeing anything on the virtual horizon to give any insight on what the next hype will be ?

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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

RWSGFY says

That the Bay Bridge under construction? Because it was built before WW2.

That's the point: it can't be WWII-era photo as the caption suggests.