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richwicks says

What is going to happen is people at HOME are going to start producing product that is superior to what large corporations to, for fun.

Not at all. The home user does not have the talent to come up with entertaining stories. Just like the advent of desktop publishing did not create a nation of novelists, AI will not create a nation of filmmakers. We already have small video production companies all over the country and all AI will do is give them another tool. At best, this AI will remove the high pay of specific actors (when you can create a realistic looking action figure or use a public domain likeness like Charlie Chapman or George Washington), lower the costs of special effects, and some decentralization of Hollywood. It will still take companies that can coordinate writing and acting talent to produce watchable content. Otherwise, it just more of what you already can see on Youtube with "how-to" and political comment videos, or stolen content where some guy combines music he did not produce with videos of dancing he did not produce while considering himself a creator. True, some folks have great videos of playing classic songs on a synth or guitar, but that is hardly a feature film or even a TV episode.

richwicks says

But that's stopped. Think about fashion - you can wear a shirt that you bought in 1990, and nobody would think anything of it. Try wearing clothing from 1950 in 1980, or clothing 1960 in 1990. People might think "oh, we're not progressing", actually we are. People are falling out of being led around by the nose because people don't pay attention to it anymore.

Yes, as far as the religion of (fashion) consumerism not being as subscribed to by the masses.

I saw that in the 1980s as far as kids (i.e., mostly females) in my high school who were hyper focused on wearing popular clothing like Izod Lacoste, Guess Jeans, Louis Vuitton sunglasses, etc.

As the wearing of this fashionware was associated with status such as socioeconomic in a "perception was reality" culture.

Society is maturing/evolving and in a way I have optimism as somewhat in a Gene Roddenberry/Star Trek-way.

I see your point as "Hollywood" or the "film (propaganda) industry" is going to become more irrelevant and obsolete just like the fashion industry has been relatively losing relevance.
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AD says

you can wear a shirt that you bought in 1990, and nobody would think anything of it

Yes, but most would not be caught dead in bell bottoms or Disco era polyester.

HeadSet says

Not at all. The home user does not have the talent to come up with entertaining stories. Just like the advent of desktop publishing did not create a nation of novelists

It's not the same as novelists. Who is Joe Rogan? Who is Dr. John Campbell? Who is Alex Jones? Who is James Corbette? You may not know all those names, but NONE of them has shown up on television and they aren't artificially promoted - well, Jones might have been for a while. These are organic actual creations as a result of people just being FUCKING FED UP with the "news'.

HeadSet says

AI will not create a nation of filmmakers.

No, it won't. It's going to destroy film itself.

AI isn't just going to be a tool, it's going to be a replacement, and it will get boring quick.

AD says

Society is maturing/evolving and in a way I have optimism as somewhat in a Gene Roddenberry/Star Trek-way.

So do I. I think we're maturing in that the population can no longer be tricked into focusing on the jingling keys.

AD says

I see your point as "Hollywood" or the "film (propaganda) industry" is going to become more irrelevant and obsolete just like the fashion industry has been relatively losing relevance.

They are the same to me, fashion and spectacle.

HeadSet says

Yes, but most would not be caught dead in bell bottoms or Disco era polyester.

This is my point. Typical 70's clothing is a Halloween costume now. I don't think that clothing will differ much in 2050 from what it does now and it doesn't really differ from the late 1990s.

I think the big change is that visual reproduction is so good. We are NOT going to improve on video reproduction, because it's perfect now. You look at a photograph from 1950, and you can tell it's the 1950's. You won't be able to tell if a video today was made in 2015 or today. Actually, that's true since 2010 really.

Audio reproduction is perfect, video reproduction is perfect. It's not black and white, you don't hear scratches on the record or tape hiss, the picture isn't fuzzy or interlaced and low resolution, it's going to become increasingly impossible to distinguish between what was made today, and 100 years ago, and in time 1000 years ago.

Our language changed from the 1930's to the 1970's. New slang terms showed up in the 1990's for the Internet, but it's becoming more rare. We are solidifying, and that's a good thing but the power structure doesn't want that, so they throw in all the crazy they can, but people aren't biting.

We have all this transgender and homosexual bullshit being pushed - people aren't biting. Sure, there's a lot of hoopla made about it on the propaganda box, but do you see this in reality? I don't, and I'm in crazytown central silly con valley, commiefornia. I can see the loss of influence of television, and locking down Twitter, YouTube and Facebook isn't working, new competitors just pop up. That's not going to stop, in fact, it will increase. The last step is complete decentralization of everything. We're going to return to small communities in time.

HeadSet says

Yes, but most would not be caught dead in bell bottoms or Disco era polyester.

Dude, for weddings I wear some crazy suits. My prom photo is hilarious. I wore my dad's suit and leather heeled man shoes from the 70's. This was in 2001.

I dress normal day to day. Kind of look like a fisherman, so tan and green tones hence why my son calls me Shrek. But I have fun for events. Have one Saturday and need to figure that out. And yes, I'm straight. I just have fun with picking shit out. Do it for my wife's swimwear and a few other outfits for her. I gotta look at her, so might as well have be something I like. She's cool with it. I think it's fun to do retro or weird stuff.

richwicks says

We have all this transgender and homosexual bullshit being pushed - people aren't biting. Sure, there's a lot of hoopla made about it on the propaganda box, but do you see this in reality?

Yes. It is happening in classrooms, school board meetings (a lawyer accused a school board member of being an anti trans bigot for opposing cross dressing story hour), churches are actively promoting it, even the pope is “blessing” same sex couples. You said you owe an apology to everyone who said gay marriage was going to accelerate the moral depravity. Well guess what, in 10 more years of this it could be that pedophilia and rape are considered human rights. There is a kid at a local elementary school who “identifies” as a T-Rex. Half of the moms my age in my area have a kid who identifies as he opposite sex or “other.” My workplace actively promotes this as well through DEI initiatives.

Only the ignorant would assert that wokism is not changing our future just like gay marriage did around a decade ago. It is the normal progression when people lose their moral compass and don’t turn to God for their truth.

richwicks says

The last step is complete decentralization of everything. We're going to return to small communities in time.

More willingly ignorant wishful thinking. The trend toward larger central government, centralized infrastructure (either Apple or android/google knows more about the cell phone user than the user does!) onStar knows more about their car than most people do, there are CBDC being prepped to control all commerce, they are working on microchips to interact with the human brain. Already nearly every university, church, business and government is controlled by the globalists and tyrants. We argue over the questions of who is at fault for all the wars, when in fact the globalists (semi-secretive centralized dictatorship) are manipulating Both sides of nearly every conflict.

PeopleUnited says

There is a kid at a local elementary school who “identifies” as a T-Rex.

This might be the funniest thing I've read in a decade. I can't stop laughing. WTF??

I agree with your points though. But I can't stop laughing about that line. We've gone bat shit crazy as a society when men dressing as women and it's entertainment, supposedly.

Sorry. T-Rex. I'm legit crying laughing. This might go on all day. lol.

Yeah, no kidding! His school (and his parents) allow him to wear some reptilian headgear during the school day, and then after school he puts on the rest of his “identity “ costume.

Response should be: We only teach human children here, not reptiles. Off you go, now.

PeopleUnited says

Yes. It is happening in classrooms, school board meetings (a lawyer accused a school board member of being an anti trans bigot for opposing cross dressing story hour), churches are actively promoting it, even the pope is “blessing” same sex couples.

The pope hasn't condoned same sex marriage. I was raised Catholic and I grew up with this bullshit about the media reporting the pope said this or that, when he didn't. The Church is an institution that is over 1000 years ago, and it doesn't change on a dime because of the latest fad in society.

PeopleUnited says

You said you owe an apology to everyone who said gay marriage was going to accelerate the moral depravity.

Yep, I do. There's no end to it. We can never get to a "good place", they have to go further, and further and further all the time, so I say just stop. It's no different with the other side, if they banned gay marriage, they would keep pushing until homosexuality resulted in the death penalty. I'm tired of being stuck between two nutcases pulling a rope I'm tangled up in.

PeopleUnited says

There is a kid at a local elementary school who “identifies” as a T-Rex. Half of the moms my age in my area have a kid who identifies as he opposite sex or “other.”

Where do you live? Do ANYBODY else here have this experience?

PeopleUnited says

My workplace actively promotes this as well through DEI initiatives.

Then you work for a company that is living dinosaur.

I've worked for both. In a startup, we don't give a FUCK about what you are doing in your private life, and at work, you WORK. At home, you work. There's extreme levels of performance expected and required. There's no time at all for this intersectional bullshit.

PeopleUnited says

Only the ignorant would assert that wokism is not changing our future just like gay marriage did around a decade ago. It is the normal progression when people lose their moral compass and don’t turn to God for their truth.

Oh please, I've seen this over and over again within my own lifetime and culture. This is a flash in the pan hullabaloo about nothing. Companies that bend the knee will just die. Google was THE undisputed king of information retrieval, it's now literally the last place I go for anything. Microsoft is going to falter, YouTube is no better than television - mindless garbage on it, Facebook is for grandparents to connect with their grandchildren.

In a free market system, it fixes itself, but people don't see our government is actively trying to kill the free market. This is why Amazon does so well, they have an entirely different tax system, and the government shovels money at them.

PeopleUnited says

More willingly ignorant wishful thinking. The trend toward larger central government, centralized infrastructure (either Apple or android/google knows more about the cell phone user than the user does!) onStar knows more about their car than most people do

You don't understand, people will abandon it. You're not dependent on your phone or your government, you just think you are, you're used to it. When there's enough push and shove, people just leave.

For example, people for YEARS have been asking Pedowood to stop pushing an agenda, and Pedowood has responded by continuing to do this. Well, lo and behold, people don't have to pay for movie tickets after all, or buy streaming services, or have a television.

More delusional ranting.

Here is just one fact that shows how out of touch the previous poster is.

“ Streaming services are more popular than ever

Over the past several years, streaming services have seen a surge in popularity — 78% of U.S. households have at least a Netflix, Amazon Prime, and/or Hulu subscription, compared with 69% in 2018, and 52% in 2015, according to research by media consultancy firm Leichtman Research Group, Inc.

In 2020, subscribership for streaming companies soared. Netflix added 37 million subscribers to the platform, and Hulu reached 38.8 million subscribers. However, Disney+ had the real Cinderella story of 2020, growing to more than 73 million subscribers by the end of the fourth quarter.”

https://financebuzz.com/streaming-survey

Streaming and cable and OTA viewers are not growing Audiences as fast as they used to, but screen time is not decreasing for the majority of people.

Karloff says

Response should be: We only teach human children here, not reptiles. Off you go, now.

How about a referral to psychiatric specialist for both parents and child.

PeopleUnited says

Over the past several years, streaming services have seen a surge in popularity

We love the free streaming services like Pluto TV, Tubi, FreeVee, and Roku. We do not pay for any subscription service.

We also get about 20 high definition or digital channels over the air such as CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, MeTV, Grit TV, Great Entertainment TV (GET), Outside Channel and Scripps News Channel. The local PBS station (WFSU) broadcasts multiple channels.

I agree as people are watching TV like my wife will read her email while watching the news on Live Now from Fox. Those streaming services like Live Now from Fox and Pluto TV can be watched on a computer or tablet.

AD says

We also get about 20 high definition or digital channels over the air such as CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, MeTV, Grit TV, Great Entertainment TV (GET), Outside Channel and Scripps News Channel. The local PBS station (WFSU) broadcasts multiple channels.

I put a large antenna in my attic and I get about 60 over the air digital channels, as my house is midway between Norfolk and Richmond and picks up from both cities. I do not even bother with streaming. I have just internet from Cox, and the price just dropped to $59/mo because a competing provider just put fiber in my neighborhood. Cox still charges $89 for just internet in places where they have no competition.

Adolf Hitler in English AI Reconstruction

https://youtu.be/8QgXIFzQi0Y?si=yhkLCola2X2WmOgv

HeadSet says

as my house is midway between Norfolk and Richmond

Williamsburg or Yorktown ?

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AD says

HeadSet says

as my house is midway between Norfolk and Richmond

Williamsburg or Yorktown ?

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Williamsburg

RWSGFY says

Many may just want AI to earn them money so they can hire people to do their laundry and dishes.

RWSGFY says

That the Bay Bridge under construction? Because it was built before WW2.

Is saying something intelligent by accident considered artificial intelligence?

HeadSet says

I put a large antenna in my attic and I get about 60 over the air digital channels

the problem I have with a system like that is I would only get to choose from whatever is on at the moment which would be nothing I would want to watch anyways.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

RWSGFY says

That the Bay Bridge under construction? Because it was built before WW2.

Most likely 1934-35. The carrier closest to the viewer is USS Lexington (built in the mid-1920's, sunk in 1942). The heavy cruiser to its right rear is likely USS San Francisco (commissioned in early 1934) with its tripod mast (New Orleans Class). The other two big ships are battleships of the "Standard Type" built late in WW1 and early 1920's, with their original "cage masts" before later modifications in the late 1930's and WW2.

Artificial Intelligence is the new hype. Its like a carnival barker mentality.

Every bubble has some type of hype. Go back as "recent" as the dot.com and internet stocks bubble of 2000 and look at they hysteria-level hype back then.

Just look at how rich Mark Cuban got with Broadcast.com being bought by Yahoo for around $5.3 billion around 1999, and then a few years later Yahoo shuts it down.

At least this time the "hype stocks" like AMZN and GOOGL are making money as compared to the likes of Garden.com and Pets.com.

Are you all seeing anything on the virtual horizon to give any insight on what the next hype will be ?

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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

RWSGFY says

That the Bay Bridge under construction? Because it was built before WW2.

That's the point: it can't be WWII-era photo as the caption suggests.

AD says

Artificial Intelligence is the new hype. Its like a carnival barker mentality.

Every bubble has some type of hype.

Web -> E-commerce -> Apps -> Data-driven -> Big Data -> Gig economy -> Cloud -> Self-driving -> VR/AR/Metaverse -> LLM/ Generative AI -> ....

So I called into my pharmacy to renew a prescription. Of course an automated “customer service” system. Their voice recognition capability surprisngly had regressed to the 1990’s. Four times it fucked up recognizing my ID number. Never had done that before. Finally I said “Agent” and got a live person. When I complained about this, he said, “Oh yes, we have implemented a new AI system. It will take some time for it to learn, but it will get better.”

What The Fuck!!!

RWSGFY says

Death traps. I have my head on a swivel in the golf cart and in town speed limit is 25mph. Could it save me? I don't know, but I at least have the metal for the roof on the cart to prevent rolling multiple times.

I do see these being an option in suburbs, but not cities. Better off using bike lanes with an ebike in cities. Either way cost is the issue. Lithium batteries ain't cheap. Same thing ICE is probably half the cost.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

So I called into my pharmacy to renew a prescription. Of course an automated “customer service” system.

I just punch zero a bunch of times on most systems. Also, unless it's life saving, get off the prescription. 90% of them you don't need that cannot be fixed with lifestyle changes. Not a judgement and don't care to know the ailment. I went on anti anxiety meds for a month and quit. I was sleeping or 10-12 hours a day so I couldn't have anxiety and then would wake up with MORE anxiety because I didn't get done what I needed to.

Unless it's to keep the heart pumping and lungs breathing, or to fight cancer, I'm not sure what prescription I'd need. AI is bull shit is the point after the rant. I just put my oldest on the phone until he gets a human on the phone then hands it off to me. He thinks of it as a game. By adulthood he'll be a level 10 troll.

RWSGFY says

Invented by someone who lives someplace where it doesn't rain much is the first thing that comes to mind.

zzyzzx says

RWSGFY says

Invented by someone who lives someplace where it doesn't rain much is the first thing that comes to mind.

Look closely.

RWSGFY says

Look closely.

Hahahahaha!

I saw it before. But didn't associate it with the context of this thread. I was caught up in thinking, "Another EVtarded waste of investment money. Just look at those handlebars!"

WookieMan & zzyzzx fell for it, too.