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Patrick says

So when the deep state steals the election for its papier-mâché candidate, Trump will probably do what Trump did the last time: put on a good show, make lots of noise, and then swallow his losses and his boundless pride and go back to Mar-A-Lago ... while those of his supporters who are too hot-headed to take the hint, take the hit.

this is about legal voters being disenfranchised by a system that does not provide adequate checks for and protection against illegal voting and how ironic that the Jimmy Carter Center has monitored elections in developing countries to ensure election integrity (let alone the mainstream media has cried about the stolen election in Venezuela)

the Woke Idol (Harris) is important this election, but she will come and go as this concept remains until the next stolen election

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

They are hopelessly mentally damaged. Beyond repair.

I'm not sure they are beyond repair.

Patrick says

I'm not sure they are beyond repair.

You can't fix brain damage. And that is what this is by the time they get older.

https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-coglianese

Vince Coglianese, editor of The Daily Caller, says that the replacement of obviously senile Biden is a good sign for democracy.

The scum at the top of the Democratic Party, Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, et al, were actually quite worried that Biden's obvious senility would have put him below the margin of cheating.

And that implies that US democracy still works to some extent. They obviously cheated in 2020, but they would need a vastly larger cheating operation now that literally everyone on earth knows that Biden is terminally senile.

How They Plan To Steal The 2024 Election



https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1825463892039934139

https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/the-council-who-is-running-the-united

On November 3rd, 2020, through November 5th, 2020, Gregory Stenstrom and Leah Hoopes witnessed massive election fraud in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. Stenstrom documented and reported this massive fraud in a formal declaration to the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, William McSwain, on November 7th, 2020. Stenstrom’s declaration was routed throughout the entire top echelons of the CIGIE, including Inspectors General of multiple federal agencies, and all 94 US Attorneys according to FOIA responses. The crux of Stenstrom’s declaration was that massive election fraud had been implemented in targeted centralized counting centers to subvert and steal the election. Stenstrom stated that quick execution of forensic examinations on only a handful of election machines and computer servers would easily verify the fraud. McSwain, an experienced attorney with knowledge of how the Department of “Just-Us” operated, carefully documented the allegations via email that he was thwarted from initiating investigation. ...

Over the next two days, a responsive memorandum was crafted and released on November 9th, 2020, by US Attorney General Barr that there was no widespread evidence of election fraud, and he directed all investigations to be turned over by US Attorneys to their respective State Attorney Generals. In the case of Pennsylvania, that investigation was turned over by McSwain to then Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, an architect and direct beneficiary of the election fraud. Instead of investigating, Shapiro immediately retaliated and dispatched special agents to threaten and intimidate Stenstrom, Hoopes, and other witnesses who had submitted corroborating affidavits reporting election fraud.

US Attorney General Barr and PA Attorney General Shapiro vigorously denied that the above events had transpired, and the media pronounced reports of Stenstrom’s declaration as “debunked,” but their protestations were unexpectedly countered by US Attorney McSwain, who submitted an open letter to President Trump on June 9th, 2021, apologizing for his failure to investigate.

Stenstrom fully documented Governor Shapiro’s malfeasance and criminal obstruction in an article in the Intelligencer Today titled “PA Governor Josh Shapiro’s “Big Lie””[25] on March 31st, 2024. After over three years of investigation Stenstrom submitted a disclosure and criminal referrals against Shapiro to Pennsylvania Attorney General Michelle Henry and DOJ “Special Counsel” Jack Smith (among others) on June 12th, 2024.[26]

https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/the-council-who-is-running-the-united

The four key elements to execute election fraud in the November 2024 presidential election are:

Violating federal and state election laws to introduce compromised electronic election machines and software.
Violating federal and state election laws to insert millions of fraudulent “no excuse” Mail in Ballots of unqualified electors (voters) into election tabulations.
Violating federal and state election laws to use “centralized counting centers” to cover-up and obfuscate massive election fraud.
Continuing to use lawfare, censorship, and media smearing to suppress anyone who might challenge massive election fraud.

To remedy this, the author, Gregory Stenstrom, and Leah Hoopes, with “candidates” and their “certified poll watchers,” “authorized representatives,” – all codified and statutory roles defined by election law – have dozens of pending lawsuits in Pennsylvania from 2020-2024 demanding recounts and release of public election records that are coming to fruition in the appellate courts. They have also filed, or will shortly file, federal lawsuits using the evidentiary base entered into the public and judicial record over the past four years that will be heard and adjudicated by federal judges prior to the November 2024 elections.

Most people no longer need, or even want, to know the details and mechanics of massive election fraud. The majority of the American peoples have already come to the sad conclusion that our elections have been stolen as a “given” according to recent Heartland and Rasmussen polls, and have rejected the waning media protestations that the 2020 presidential election was the “safest and most secure in history.”

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WTF ? a Chicom or AntiFa / Act Blue test run for this November election ?

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/pennsylvania-judge-rules-voters-election-officials-cannot-cure/

Pennsylvania Judge Rules Voters and Election Officials CANNOT Cure or Count ‘Naked’ Mail-in Ballots

A Pennsylvania judge has ruled that voters and election officials cannot cure or count mail-in ballots that are returned without the required secrecy envelope, often referred to as “naked ballots.”

In a decisive ruling, Judge S. Michael Yeager of the Butler County Court of Common Pleas dismissed a petition seeking to challenge the Butler County Board of Elections’ rejection of mail-in ballots that lacked the required secrecy envelopes—often referred to as ‘naked’ ballots.

The case arose when two Butler County residents, Faith A. Genser and Frank P. Matis, both failed to include the mandatory secrecy envelopes when submitting their mail-in ballots for the April 23, 2024, primary election.

Despite being informed of their ballots’ rejection due to this omission, both voters proceeded to cast provisional ballots on Election Day, hoping to have their votes counted.

However, the Butler County Board of Elections, adhering to Pennsylvania’s strict election guidelines, rejected these provisional ballots, leading to the court case filed by ACLU Pennsylvania.

The court found that the Butler County Board of Elections acted within its legal rights when it rejected provisional ballots submitted without the necessary secrecy envelopes.

According to the ruling, these “naked” ballots do not meet the statutory requirements set forth in Pennsylvania’s Election Code, which mandates that all mail-in ballots must be completed, placed in a secrecy envelope, and then enclosed in a Declaration Envelope before submission.

The judge emphasized that allowing such ballots to be counted would undermine the very foundation of secure and fair elections. By failing to comply with these regulations, voters risk disenfranchising themselves and compromising the integrity of the electoral process.

Patrick says

The judge emphasized that allowing such ballots to be counted would undermine the very foundation of secure and fair elections.

That's the main theme as far as protecting us legal voters from being disenfranchised because of illegal votes. Our civil rights matter as much as those who vote illegally.

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As I mentioned before, the Republican party is going to have to rely on lawyers working for them who are competent AND fearless
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The_Deplorable says

How They Plan To Steal The 2024 Election



https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1825463892039934139

Holy shit.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/foreigners-here-illegally-can-vote-in-us-elections/

https://x.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/1826329904293839192

@KenPaxtonTX
🚨Breaking: I am launching an investigation into reports that organizations in Texas are illegally registering non-citizens to vote.

Texans are deeply troubled by the possibility that organizations purporting to assist with voter registration are illegally registering noncitizens to vote in our elections.

If eligible citizens can legally register to vote when
conducting their business at a DPS office, why would they need a second opportunity to register with a booth outside?

My office is investigating every credible report we receive regarding potential criminal activity that could compromise the integrity of our elections. The Biden-Harris Administration has intentionally flooded our country with illegal aliens, and without proper safeguards, foreign nationals can illegally influence elections at the local, state, and national level.

It is a crime to vote—or to register to vote—if you are not a United States Citizen. Any wrongdoing will be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

From Real Clear Politics mainpage on its right side

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"The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, or SAVE, is intended to prevent noncitizens from voting. That act is already illegal since, under existing U.S. law, only citizens can vote in federal elections, but the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 prohibits states from confirming citizenship status."

Link: https://floridaphoenix.com/2024/07/10/u-s-house-passes-bill-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-to-vote-in-federal-races/

So the Democrats claim its not being abused by non-citizens enough to make a difference ? And there is no way to determine how many non-citizens were registered to vote in a federal election, so we have to just trust that it is not being abused.

We legal voters are going to have our civil rights violated and are going to be disenfranchised by enough non-citizens voting for Harris in Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc.

What pisses me off is the Supreme Court has not addressed legal voter disenfranchisement from this in its recent ruling , even going as far as to overturn Bill Clinton's Motor Voter Law: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-allows-arizona-require-proof-citizenship-state-votes-not-federal

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https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/bumped-friday-august-23-2024-c-and/comment/66464898

Hundreds of thousands of voters in each swing state registered at fraudulent addresses. Mail-in ballots to these addresses not deliverable will be returned to the local post office to be picked up by Democrat vote operatives to fill out ballots and drop off. Once this is done the illegal vote is counted and the fraud is undetectable.

Patrick says

Hundreds of thousands of voters in each swing state registered at fraudulent addresses.

And many Caritas shelters and Church properties.

https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/23/ohio-secretary-of-state-refers-over-100-illegal-aliens-for-prosecution-for-being-registered-to-vote/

Ohio Secretary of State Refers over 100 Illegal Aliens for Prosecution for Being Registered to Vote

On Thursday, the Ohio Secretary of State’s office referred 138 illegal aliens for prosecution after they were discovered to have been registered to vote. ...

“I’m duty-bound to make sure people who haven’t yet earned citizenship in this country do not vote in our elections,” said LaRose in a statement. “We’ve so far identified 597 individuals who’ve registered to vote in Ohio despite not being citizens of the United States, as our state constitution requires.”

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/pay-attention-democrats-just-broadcasted-how-they-will/

Trump won 16 of 17 bellwether counties and allegedly lost the election. Something that had never happened in 36 years.

Trump won the bellwether states, Ohio, Florida, and Iowa handily, something EVERY winning candidate has accomplished since 1960.

Biden won the fewest number of counties in the 2020 election by any alleged “winner” in history – winning only 16% of all US counties.

In this same election, President Trump improved in EVERY category.

President Trump won more Hispanic votes.
President Trump won more female votes.
Trump won more black votes.
President Trump won more gay votes.
President Trump won more immigrant votes.

But somehow, Democrat Joe Biden, who did not campaign, hid in his basement, and could barely string together two coherent sentences, supposedly won 81 million votes!?!

We know Democrats used several means to score illegal votes in several states in the 2020 election.

We witnessed them counting ballots behind closed doors, bringing in endless piles of surprise ballots days after the election, locking Republicans out of the counting rooms, pulling boxes of ballots out from under tables when all the observers were sent home, driving in vanloads of ballots in the early hours of the morning after Joe Biden fell far behind, stuffing stacks of ballots into unsupervised ballot drop boxes.

So, how did Joe do it? How did Democrats steal the 2020 election for Joe Biden?

Step 1: In October 2021, we finally learned how Joe Biden pulled off his ‘miraculous’ win.
Huffington Post reported that it was “low-income white voters” who gave Joe Biden the win.

This was a preposterous lie on its face since everyone knows Trump owned the working-class voters like no other president in the last 100 years!

But it did give us a clue of where they found their manufactured votes. ...

Democrats understand they must produce an enormous amount of fraudulent votes to steal the election from Trump this year.
President Trump increased his second run for president by 12 million votes! This year, he may increase that by another 12 million.

President Trump is polling better with whites, Hispanics, and blacks. President Trump is winning at least 20 percent of the black male vote and could reach 50 percent by Election Day.

Democrats abandoned the black community AGAIN this year, and black voters are catching on. Democrats have catered to illegal aliens to replace their black voter base. That is clear.

And, Democrats understand they must top at least 85 million votes to win the election in 2024.

So what do Democrats do?

They fabricate momentum. On Tuesday, Democrats filled the United Center in Chicago and the Fiserv Arena in Milwaukee. This was quite a feat for a party that is running the most unpopular vice president in history and crazy Stolen Valor liar, Tim Walz as their candidates.

Democrats will manufacture excitement and turnout at their rallies to explain their sudden surge of votes in November.

Watch and see. ...

Manufacture millions of new ghost voters.
Democrats have dozens, if not hundreds, of what they call “Get out the vote” groups operating in every state in the union today.

The Democratic Party, including the DSCC and Biden Campaign, spent tens of millions on these groups during the 2020 election and will spend hundreds of millions on them again in 2024.

Why is that?

In 2023, The Gateway Pundit broke the news on the GBI Strategies group that was operating in Michigan and numerous other states. ...

No one was ever arrested for the thousands of fraudulent ballots turned in to clerks in Michigan. The investigation was turned over to the FBI, where it went to die. Of course.

Earlier this month, The Gateway Pundit reported on a second far-left fraudulent voter registration manufacturing group.

TGP's Jim Hoft joined host Natalie Winters on The War Room to discuss the ongoing Gateway Pundit investigation of the Democrat Party’s massive fraudulent ballot registration scandal.

The Gateway Pundit's Patty McMurray reported on a different Democrat-funded voter registration group that is accused of turning in hundreds of suspected fraudulent voter registrations - this time in Ohio!

Officials discovered that a group called Black Fork Strategies, which operates across the state of Ohio, is being investigated by the Ohio Secretary of State over another alleged fraudulent voter registration campaign. The Hamilton County Board of Elections has turned over several suspicious voter registration applications to the Ohio Secretary of State’s Public Integrity Division.

Hamilton County Director of Elections Sherry Poland recently held up an inch-wide stack of suspected fraudulent registrations turned in by Black Fork Strategies that appear to have all of the same handwriting.

https://x.com/MichelleRM68/status/1827418050909376712

https://sonar21.com/new-complaint-filed-alleging-that-u-s-postal-service-usps-committed-electoral-fraud-in-the-2020-presidential-election/

New Complaint Filed Alleging that U.s. Postal Service (USPS) Committed Electoral Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election ...

Here is the bottom-line — the truck driver, Jesse Morgan, picked up a container filled with 20 Gaylord boxes. There were mail-in ballots in each of the Gaylords. A Gaylord can hold from 50,000 up to 100,000 ballots. Do the math — Mr. Morgan was transporting at least one million mail-in ballots (already filled in with signatures on the envelopes). So, what you say? The mail-in ballots are First Class mail. Every piece of First Class mail is supposed to be imaged per USPS regulations. The facility where Morgan picked up the load of ballots is ONLY certified for handling packages and Express Mail. There is no legal justification to account for those ballots to have passed through that warehouse.

https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/the-2024-cheat-and-whats-being-done

After engineer and data scientist Kim Brooks worked on cleaning the voter rolls in Georgia for a year, she realized she was on a stationary bicycle. She’d clear a name for various reasons, dead, felon, stolen ID, living at a seasonal campground for twenty years, duplicate, moved out of state, 200 years old, etc., and back it would come within a month. At that juncture she realized that a program within the Georgia voter registration database was methodically adding back fake names.

She looked deeper. For new registrants, the culprit was principally Driver’s Services creating new registrations and in this case, the manufacturer was a person, or persons. Within the government office, someone was stealing names and duplicating, even tripling that person’s vote and then forging their signature. Sometimes it was someone who just died, or a teacher who had no voting record. In the case of a nurse who died in 2022 with three registrations, she was registered to vote in two counties, and all three of her voted in the 2022 election and the 2024 primary. Each signature was slightly different, the last three letters spelled, ly, ley, and lley

This operation works under AVR, or automatic voter registration, and is being used to register migrants. They will not vote, but their names have been entered into the Voter Registration database when they apply for a driver’s license and their vote will be voted for them. I imagine that this is repeating something everyone knows, but the borders are open for precisely this reason, so the Democrat/RINO machine can steal their votes. By the way, the process for advancing permanent residency has been cut from 11 months to two.

In 2020, twenty states used operation AVR. Of those, Trump lost 18.

That’s because there are registration fraud rings, as identified in the Arabella doc. and in the work of Omega4America. This worked well in Michigan, where, according to Captain Seth Keshel, who is one of the leads on this fight, believes that Trump likely got 576,443 more votes than were counted and won Michigan by 8.5%. ...

Michigan has two million more registered voters than they should have. 83.5% of the state is registered to vote but only 77.9% is over 18. – Seth Keshel ...

There are just so many votes NGO’s can manufacture, no matter how hard they work. And work they do, as soon as they determine the number of votes from the voting machines in the late hours of voting day. Hence the panicked, simultaneous, across-the-swing-states voting shutdown in 2020.

Everyone who has dug into election fraud has come to the same conclusion. At the coal face, with the assistance of literally tens of thousands of NGO’s funded by the usual suspects, the government is running the show. The county clerks, the lawyers and judges, various functionaries are the ones stealing the election. Some of them are unwitting, many not. All are breaking federal law. ...

They steal an individual’s driver’s license number, her social security number, her birthdate, her height and weight, stay the same, but the address will be fake and so would the signature.

“Generally they use people who don’t vote. They change a street number, a county, a signature: “But only a little fake, in the case of a nurse whose vote was stolen three times over, the last three letters of the signature were changed: ly, ley, lly…”

Each instance of identity theft is criminal; the fine is $50,000.

After the 2020 vote, registrants, whose voter history showed they had only voted in the 2020 election, were cancelled, only to reappear for 2022. “Votes are being deleted, swapped and diluted before , during and after an election.”

Wherever you look in the swing states, and unnervingly in the not-swing states, the same pattern is emerging. Especially in the south, where the left’s stated goal is to overwhelm what they call the “new confederacy”. ...

Claire Woodall, head of the Wisconsin Election Commission, first gave counters a two hour dinner break on election day, then at 10:30 declared the counting done and sent observers home. Retired Army Colonel David Bolter did not go along with others, and made a sworn deposition, with two others, that a young black guy brought in ballots in at 1;!5 am. At 2:30 a.m., Maria Sanchez punched in, and was witnessed feeding ballots through the tabulators. At 3:06 am, they have video of Claire leaving in a 512 Squad Car with the vote tally.

After relentless exposure, Woodhall was fired.



Another suit seeks to ban the connection of Dominion machines to the internet. The Wisconsin team has gone through 2.5 million lines of computer code from Dominion software and IT experts found that the machines are adjudicating ballots.

A third is a legal challenge from six citizens who found 55,000 voters who shouldn’t be on the voter rolls, which is a 21% error rate in Madison alone. Those specific 55,000 won’t be returning.

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AD says

From Real Clear Politics mainpage on its right side

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Harris doesn't stand a chance in my opinion. It would take epic levels of cheating. I'm talking 100k population in a county and they get 140k votes overall. It would have to be so obvious.

I don't answer my phone and live in a heavy blue state. Anyone ever actually get polled? I'm not registered for either party, so you'd think that I'd be the target to be polled. A registered D or R vote is obvious 90% of the time so why poll them?

Trump wins in a landslide if that polling is correct. Cheating aside, the +1 for Harris in Wisconsin is bull shit and +2 in MI. The problem you have is IL people that have 2nd properties in WI and MI. No one actually wants to live in Indiana, so that's why it's not a swing state. WI and MI are not going to check voter rolls. Who is going to stop you from voting in two states if you own property?

It's a 1-3 hour drive from Chicago to most places Chicagoans go in WI or MI. Election day is a holiday now in most states. So a lot of people have the day off. If they can get a state ID in another state, they most certainly can register to vote there and spend a day at the cabin and vote or mail it in.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/weirdness-monday-august-26-2024-c

Wins and losses. On Saturday, the Washington Examiner ran a story headlined, “Court rules Cornel West can’t be on ballot in Pennsylvania.” Pennsylvania Democrats successfully stopped another third-party candidate from running in the tossup state...

The democrat majority Pennsylvania court of appeals found that, even though major party candidates need not submit affidavits with their application to appear on the ballot, third-party candidates must, so West’s application was deficient.

West’s lawyers haven’t yet said whether West will appeal to the state’s Supreme Court.

Don’t complain! Democrats are suing everywhere to stop voters from choosing third-party candidates because Democrats are trying to save democracy. This is totally different from what South American communists do because reasons.

But there was also good news for folks who believe in voting for candidates instead of selecting them. Also on Friday, a Michigan court ruled against Democrats, holding that Dr. West can appear on the ballot in that state. Michigan is another key tossup state. So.

WookieMan says

Harris doesn't stand a chance in my opinion.

AGAIN Your opinion doesn't matter. Neither does mine or pretty much everyone else on PatNet.

This comes down to cheating where they can (Michigan just passed a law denying jurisdiction of its own courts over election fraud cases, for example) and an extremely small sliver of voters who are basically retarded children you wouldn't trust to get your order at Taco Bell to ("I liked Kamala's silk scarf she wore the other day so I'll vote for her. Besides I saw online Trump raped that lady!" <--- NO I am not being pedantic. They 'think' this way, not kidding)

My sister in law is voting for Harris because republicans teased Walz's disabled son.

She has other reasons, mostly because Trump is mean, racist, and misogynist.

You can't even try to use logic on committed Kamala fans.

Onvacation says

She has other reasons, mostly because Trump is mean, racist, and misogynist.

I wonder if a lot of women actually admire Trump, but resent the fact they could never catch a guy like Trump, who can trade in a supermodel for a younger one at least twice.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/you-cant-make-this-up-dnc-sues-georgia/

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that the Georgia Election Board voted 3-2 in favor of a new rule that mandates election workers to compare the total number of ballots cast with the total number of unique voter ID numbers in the system.

This crucial regulation aims to ensure that every vote cast is legitimate, allowing for thorough investigations into any discrepancies before election results can be certified.

Under this new rule, if any precinct shows that the number of ballots exceeds the number of unique voter IDs, counties must withhold certification of those election results until a complete investigation into potential fraud is conducted.

The specifics of the newly approved regulation are clear:

Tabulating Results: By 3 PM on the Friday following an election, the Election Board must review precinct returns, including absentee ballots and provisional ballots. The total number of unique voter IDs will be compared against total ballots cast.

Investigating Discrepancies: If discrepancies arise—where ballots exceed unique voter IDs—the Board is mandated to investigate thoroughly before any votes from that precinct are counted.

Certification of Results: Only after all discrepancies have been resolved can results be certified. This ensures that every vote reflects the true will of the people.

Moreover, Board members are empowered to scrutinize all election-related documentation prior to certifying results, ensuring potential fraud is detected and addressed before they become official. If fraud is uncovered, appropriate actions will be taken, including reporting findings to district attorneys.

However, instead of supporting these measures aimed at protecting electoral integrity, the DNC and its affiliates have chosen to sue the State Election Board over these rules.

If the election is truly safe and secure, there’s no reason to worry—unless they’re planning to cheat.

https://captroyharkness.substack.com/p/the-agenda-is-to-elect-kamala

In the swing states the methods used by Democrats to steal the 2020 and 2022 elections have been legalized. Moreover, if news reports are correct, in some, perhaps all, of the swing states it is now illegal to challenge election outcomes.

If you will remember, when Kamala Harris competed for the presidential nomination in 2020, she was immediately eliminated. She had zero support.

If you will remember, she has been an unpopular vice president.

Yet today the media presents her as leading Trump, who continues to turn out massive attendance at his appearances, as the likely next president.

The media uses rigged polls and positive coverage of Kamala and negative coverage of Trump to create in the voting public’s mind the expectation of a Kamala victory.

The polls are rigged by overweighting Democrats in the polled population.

Google Kamala and you will find 90% of the information is favorable.

Google Trump and 90% is unfavorable.

By creating the expectation of a Kamala victory, the ground is laid for stealing the election. It is not possible to steal an election unless the election is close or the person for whom the election is stolen is presented as the leading candidate.

Ask yourselves, how did Kamala go from zero support among Democrats to the leading presidential contender?

She did not win the primary election as there was no primary.

She has not had any debates, much less triumphed in one. ...

Patrick says

Under this new rule, if any precinct shows that the number of ballots exceeds the number of unique voter IDs, counties must withhold certification of those election results until a complete investigation into potential fraud is conducted.

Sounds like common sense.

How far we have diverged.