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Kuntsler On Solar...Duped By The Globalists AGAIN...It's Not Working


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2022 Jul 11, 10:07am   713 views  8 comments

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https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/its-not-working/
"In a low-grade epiphany while going through this ordeal last week, I realized that back in 2013, instead of getting the solar electric system, I could have bought the Rolls Royce of home generators and buried a 500-gallon fuel tank outside the garage, and had a manual water pump piggy-backed onto the well, and maybe even purchased a fine, wood-fired cookstove — and had enough money left over for a two-week vacation in the South-of-France. Silly me."

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1   B.A.C.A.H.   2022 Jul 11, 12:13pm  

thank you for calling Kunster's post to our attention.

During the previous Housing Bubble (can you say, "Casey Serin"?) I reckoned it would result in a Financial Crisis or Depression or Economic Collapse, any of which the playbook would be Money Printing. I did not expect HyperInflation, but was open minded it could happen.
I viewed "pre-buying" energy in 2006 with a rooftop solar, could be a hedge against hyperinflation.

So I studied this to death for a couple of years. Like the PG&E EV-charging plan that EV fanboys disingenuously cherry pick their utility bill about, I found that the rooftop solar would not pencil out for me. And I did not anticipate the problems Kunstler cited. It was just a financial decision.

I friend of mine in SJ, boasted about his rooftop solar, low PG&E bill, etc. He boasted how savvy he was to use a well-established roofing company Peterson Dean instead of an in-vogue hipster solar company that might be bought out or go out of business. He boasted about how he could run his AC full blast during that horrid heat wave we had in 2020 during the fires, with no electric bill.

Then, like Kunstler, his installation died. Some expensive components needed replacing. The well-established roofing company went bankrupt, something about too many solar loans going bad. He shared how the company that picked (like a vulture) at the remains of the dead company found loopholes or delaying tactics about honoring the bankrupt company's warranty. His rooftop solar was inoperative but he was still on the hook for the loan. Eventually he got it fixed but I think he paid for the repairs.

Then he moved to the Central Valley and is renting out his former SJ residence. His tenant is enjoying the "free" electricity.
2   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 11, 4:53pm  

Great piece.
3   Hircus   2022 Jul 12, 5:16pm  

I had a coworker who boasted about how he now had reliable electricity and was set in case the CA grid was unreliable again because he added a tesla powerwall to his home, although he lamented about the huge expense.

You should have seen his face when I told him "ya I thought about that, but decided to just spend $600 on a generator + some propane cylinders".

I can only imagine what went through his head. "bububut I did so much research and read some many articles. why did none of them mention a generator??? why did they all seem to point me to batteries and redirect me to expensive solar companies?"

To be fair, a solar system that can supply power silently for years if the grid is down is a very nice thing, and doesnt really need to be expensive unless you insist on a large system that's capable of supplying enough power to run all kinds of high current electric stuff, like clothes dryers, welders, fast electric car chargers etc... a system that just gives meager power sufficient for lights, fridge, and basics is probably not too expensive. You can always fire up a cheap portable generator for peaking loads if needed.
4   Ceffer   2022 Jul 12, 8:23pm  

They will tell you the years down 'break even' estimates (probably overly generous) around start up and installation costs without telling you that the infrastructures are vulnerable to deterioration don't include repairs and infrastructure replacements into the costs. Batteries for one are not things that last forever, and they hold less and less charge as time goes on.
5   Patrick   2024 Sep 11, 8:32pm  




I don't mind solar on top of parking lots, but clearing land to put up those things is horrifying.
6   Ceffer   2024 Sep 11, 10:29pm  

Designed to fail biohazard technology guaranteed to eliminate farm land and fail agriculture. Its a Globalist twofer. When the batteries and panels run out, the starvation sets in.
7   WookieMan   2024 Sep 12, 6:25am  

Patrick says

don't mind solar on top of parking lots, but clearing land to put up those things is horrifying.

They'd work perfect in Nevada. Got in a minor argument with a friend last night about solar. You lose money for 7-10 years before it's worth it. Without an expensive battery it's worthless 50% of the time or more, especially depending on clouds and weather. Winter is worthless north of I-80 across the country. That's a 15-20 year return to break even.

If they just did 100 sq. miles of NV desert, that would make sense. No issue with AG. Solar works, just not on houses without eating shit for 7-10 years in most locations.
8   zzyzzx   2024 Sep 12, 8:31am  

Patrick says


I don't mind solar on top of parking lots, but clearing land to put up those things is horrifying.


Solar panels can go on top of highways, parking lots. and put on barges in the bay, etc.

With the highway and parking lot they also provide shade and can be angled so that the snow falls off onto the side and stuff too.

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