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AmericanKulak says

Buttegg: Stop using drones, because... uh... safety for the near total lack of airborne relief efforts we're not doing.

Having my FAA drone license, Butthole is completely wrong. It's almost an impossibility that a drone would collide with aircraft which most certainly is going to be helicopters. The airflow from the chopper for lift would blow away a drone. If hit from the bottom that a huge nothing burger.

They don't want people seeing the damage and what they aren't doing as you mention. No drones means no accountability. I'm just calling out the nativity of our supposed transportation fag. He also doesn't understand, it seems, that most consumer and prosumer drones can be bricked in a no fly zone via software. The FAA can just put out a notice and the companies send out the update.

I know better, but live near an airport. Was flying in a forest preserve (against the rules for the FP) and was flying below 400'. Then I fucking saw a plane on approach. Was far enough away and the plane was probably at 1k' altitude, but I started taking it more seriously after that.

The problem with most drone people is they're buried in the screen trying to get cool shots. You HAVE to keep sight of the drone and always be aware of anything else in the air. Video footage is the toughest for this but doable. You can drop 400' in 20 seconds, so you can get out of the way. The highest I ever went was 1,900' out in MT. I was still below 400' AGL which is the law.

Sorry to derail for a second there. Pretty much everyone where the flood happened is fucked as others have said and I think I did too already. No flood insurance. You either have the cash or don't. With the Hawaii thing most homes with a loan have insurance that cover fire. These people cannot rebuild their houses in most cases. Most of the areas are generally pricey. Building soon (still... FML) and it's not cheap. Even if you build cheap and GC on your own, you're looking at $300k for a 3/2.

My grading on my lot says I shouldn't flood, but I might get the insurance after this. Since it's not in a flood plain it should be cheap. None of these people thought they'd see floods like this.

It’s Way Worse Than We Thought!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYnVbBXuPfU&t=401s

What if FEMA still has cash on hand, but they need to reserve it, so they will have the cash on hand to pay out the ballot mules and head busters, keeping poll watchers away from the ballot tallying?

Chimney Rock devastation and rumor debunking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYdC-6nShdc&t=563s

While I feel bad, I really don't. You know where you live. Hurricanes do hit that area. Flooding does happen. There was a week of notice on the path. All you had to do was go East 200 miles and chill for a bit.

Your employer wouldn't be open. Get away from the area. I see the radar in my area and I take the kids to the basement and watch a movie if a tornado is possible. Adults need to adult. They didn't. Now the other adults (government) are not reacting. That's why you have to adult out of the gate.

So many failures on this one. Everyone has a thumb, including government. Stop pointing the finger and own up for it. I'm on weather pages, this wasn't some unknown. FL handles this shit in stride. Yes there's damage, but death is rare in the last decade or two and they take the brunt of it. Wind and water. This was a rain storm. Not even wind.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/alexa-calmly-tells-stunned-americans

Alexa Calmly Tells Stunned Americans Hurricane Helene Was Artificially Created, By Cloud Seeding
"It Was Also The First Manmade Hurricane In History." —ALEXA

Could just be an AI glitch, or AI getting too close to the truth. Hard to tell.

Don't believe all of this negative hype that this storm is a big deal. Our President (Joe Biden, not Dr. Jill or Kamala) has stated that the 'storm victims' (which storm?) are all 'getting everything that they need' and 'everyone is very happy.' So there.

https://rumble.com/v5hdp19-dementia-joe-wasnt-sure-which-storm-he-was-being-asked-about-then-said-they.html

And yes, Madame Vice President has visited the effected area and she also recently visited the Southern Border. She cares. She really, really cares.

I hate to sound callous but you shouldn't expect the government to save you or even help you. We know that as a matter of fact from recent history. The government exists to keep you in line until they're ready to harvest whatever resources they desire. Nothing more, nothing less.

We're probably not going to be able to vote our way out of this.

DhammaStep says

I hate to sound callous but you shouldn't expect the government to save you or even help you. We know that as a matter of fact from recent history. The government exists to keep you in line until they're ready to harvest whatever resources they desire. Nothing more, nothing less.

The government is actively preventing volunteers and donations, however. FEMA and Butt eggegg seem more concerned with stopping donations and volunteers than getting the job done.

DhammaStep says

I hate to sound callous but you shouldn't expect the government to save you or even help you.

Gotta agree with this. I don't care if it was a 1,000 year rain or whatever it was. Places that flood are obvious. Get out or move. And yes, every location "could" flood but there's ways to mitigate it. If you're going to stay, have plans. The forecast was spot on.

My neighbors in the other part of town will hate me, but I give no shits. 20" rainfall I could easily pump out in the new house. 3 sump pumps and nat gas generator. I'll never be without electric. Friends with the neighbors and will illegally trench to the storm sewer and get any water out. Higher ground. Our 2' below top soil ground water will be 4-6'. I'll have a pool that can eat up some of that water. 2-3 2k gallon water tanks buried collecting run off from the roof. Use it to water the garden.

Cheap, no. I don't fuck around though. My basement will have $60-80k in just equipment. Not talking structure. Going balls out on the theater. 13.2 atmos. https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033X8500HA/Denon-AVR-X8500HA.html?tp=179 220" screen. Haven't picked speakers or projector yet.

Then have my drum room. That's another $10k excluding what I already own.

The place isn't fucking flooding is my point. I'll take water and push it away. I've got the topography and know what I need to do. It would take something 10x's bigger than the flooding after Helen. Dealt with 20" around '94. We got flooded, but was preventable. My dad was gambling.... like at a casino. Lived it. You have to be prepared. He wasn't. You learn from your father's flaws.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/americas-governor-friday-october

Meanwhile, after making his great tour of the storm zones yesterday, the hamster in Joe Biden’s brain fell off it’s tiny wheel and the Former Vice President forgot what storm he was talking about:

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1842018660191195305

Here’s the actual conversation:

REPORTER: “What do the states in the storm zone need — after what you saw today?”

BIDEN: “Oh, in the storm zone? I didn’t know which storm you’re talking about. They uh, they’re getting everything they need. They are happy, across the board.”

Happy? Across the board? Really? Who is he talking about? Is something happening in space? Headline from NBC, this morning:

Hurricane Helene live updates: At least 215 dead as
some communities struggle to get basic supplies
People are still searching for loved ones, and many
residents remain isolated because of widespread damage.

Honestly, I don’t think Biden has any clue what’s going on. He just says stuff now. He has a running list of stock vague answers, meaningless throwaways, which are the intellectually caloric equivalent of a gas-station donut.

FEMA's top priority is...

Patrick says

Honestly, I don’t think Biden has any clue what’s going on.

He shouldn't be POTUS. The alternative is worse though. VOTE. I want him to stay in office until January. First time I'm rooting for Joe, not joking. I don't want the first woman to be a dumb ass fake nigger. I get leniency on that word #blackinthehouse. What I said is true though.

Don't promote the 25th anywhere. Let Joe ride to pasture. Only 30-40 days (not tracking). Shit will burn November to January, will be one hell of a holiday season. I like being wrong on this stuff. Joe needs to stick around and kick Kamala while she's down. He doesn't like her. And you know Kamala has peeps she wants to pardon. Joe is the old man that will tell her to fuck off. I kind of like Joe now that the filters are off.

Under Administrator Deanne Criswell, FEMA has realigned its focus towards Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), influenced by President Biden's Executive Order 13985. The agency's strategic plan now emphasizes "equity of outcome" in hiring and disaster aid.

Additionally, FEMA has increased its support for NGOs with substantial grants for migrant aid, encompassing both legal and illegal entries.

This DEI emphasis, along with a push for climate change initiatives, has led to a severe deterioration of the agency’s ability to manage disasters—as evidenced by its string of errors in handling Hurricane Helene. The agency has gone so far as to impede rescue and support efforts by local volunteers and private groups while sitting on its hands.


Remember Deanna?

BREAKING:





https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842252268856324160

Pretty difficult to know what the truth is of anything in this country. If anyone believes the media, you in deep shit.

Does anyone know someone in the area that can give a first hand account?

GNL says

Does anyone know someone in the area that can give a first hand account?

Yes. Have a high school female friend in Asheville, NC. While not good at all, it might be over exaggerated. It's bad, but she's a liberal nut so shit get's blow out of proportion with her. I blocked her and got frisky in my younger years with her, so yeah, she's that type.

There will be a lot of deaths. More than being reported. It's bad. No one can rebuild unless they are flush with cash. They're homeless. Not no floor insurance. This is going to be a cluster fuck. Mind you that most of these people are poor liberals as well. Defacto homeless 3-4 days ago.

Fact is none of them prepared. I would have just driven north to Ohio or similar. This is Darwin award stuff. They stayed thinking fucking 20" of rain is a nothing burger. Fucking idiots. Mountainous terrain that forces water into choke points. WTF?

WookieMan says

Fact is none of them prepared

Sorry that's bullshit.

Your super pump wouldn't have helped shit if you watch that metal container in the video above, these peoples homes got washed away by RIVERS that haven't run in 3 lifetimes appear in an hour, so if they had your super pump, 3 generators, 5lb buckets of rice, 6 feet wall of sandbags, etc. it wouldn't have made jack shit difference.

The superpump of doom, the diesel generator, etc. all would be washed away in a literal second like that metal container. So powerful it washed away heavy trucks and entire buildings.

These people are real hillbillies, they make moonshine to this day from Grandma's potato patch and berry bushes. They can fix up an old used CAT from ebay with some superglue and some old tractor parts. They don't doordash avocado toast and think Chef Changs down in Asheville is the Chinese Food ever the once a year they get to it.

In my whole life I never heard of a hurricane dumping so much water up in the hills. I don't blame the Media or Weather people for missing it because it's unheard of.

I have never heard of a hurricane making it all the way through the panhandle and the Georgia/Alabama lowlands (or, if from the east, Cape Fear and the lowlands of Virginia and the Carolinas) and making these steep streams flood like this. Flooding on the James or around Savannah sure. Holding most of it's moisture for 100s of miles inland? Never heard of such a thing.

While nothing stupenduous happened around the hurricane's landfall, days later way up in Appalachia they got so much rain that entire towns washed away at 2000+ feet above sea level. On BOTH sides of the mountain.

This isn't the Pacific or SW; you know the Eatern 3/4 of the USA gets rain all year round. Sometimes a pattern will have rains for weeks on end and dumps feet (plural) of rain, worse thing that happens is Earl drives his F-150 through a foot of stagnant water.

This was a once in millennia event, IF it was entirely natural.

Asheville is more towards the lowlands and not a narrow hollow

AmericanKulak says

WookieMan says

Fact is none of them prepared

Sorry that's bullshit.

No. If everyone upstream pumps it out and lets gravity work for them, it works. If you're on the low ground get the fuck out. Your house is toast unless you sandbag it. People died because they were idiots.

They didn't prepare knowing an accurate forecast. This isn't some conspiracy. This is humans being dip shits. There's no argument here. I don't even blame government. People with personal responsibility fucked up. 100% Prove me wrong? The dead are retarded. It sucks. I don't like dead people. Gotta call a spade a spade though.

WookieMan says

No. If everyone upstream pumps it out and lets gravity work for them, it works. If you're on the low ground get the fuck out. Your house is toast unless you sandbag it. People died because they were idiots.

Wookie, go watch some videos. There was a sudden torrent sweeping back behind them. There's no way anybody's pump was going to stop a wall of water several feet deep that cascaded over a saddle running at 20mph. NOT from the river or stream, but back behind that over the hills themselves.

No pump would stop this:


Water running down a channel dry for 100s of years slamming into the side of a solid school building, ripping the wall apart. Your pump would go flying faster than the basketball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSm3ywc_LIs

No Pump nor wall of sandbags 3' high and double layer would stop this, had anybody even considered water would come this way.



https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aityyQ6STt0

The initial force sudden force DOWN from the hills, not the rise of the river in the valley, knocked these homes over

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/october-surprise

It was a point in my book, The Long Emergency, that our national government would become increasingly impotent, ineffectual, and incompetent as conditions worsened — and now here it is. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), could not bestir itself to aid stricken citizens around the flood-ravaged region in North Carolina and Tennessee. Sec’y Mayorkas of Homeland Security said that FEMA was out of money which, in this season of political weirdness, is especially weird, seeing as how the nation’s fiscal year began Oct 1, and Congress’s continuing resolution for funding US agencies should assure that FEMA’s checkbook is full. What was up with that?

Well, everybody and his uncle has heard by now that FEMA (and many other agencies under Mayorkas’s DHS) commits tons of money to pamper the millions of mutts from foreign lands sneaking over the US border, with lots of assistance from NGO cut-outs funded by your tax dollars, who marshal groups of aliens south-of-the-border for the crossing, and then fly or bus them around our country for the special purpose of distributing them in swing voting districts to then coordinate with other NGOs devoted to registering non-citizens to vote in order to “harvest” their ballots. Quite an operation. Completely lawless and corrupt. And official!

So, no aid for you, baskets of deplorables, shivering in the dark in your hills and hollows of Appalachia, your houses splintered, scant chattels lost, and your beloved hound-dogs carried away in the roaring torrents. The money that might have helped you begin to recover from the complete devastation of your lives is paying for Guatemalans to bunk in the Roosevelt Hotel and order-in quesadillas and churros, and refill their government-issued debit cards so they can afford a few nice things as they wait for mysterious others to cast ballots in their names.

This is the work of your Democratic Party, the party of chaos, party of the Woke mentally ill, party of wrecking the country, of America’s end times. And you’re going to vote for more of it? Of course not. And despite the attempts to knock him out of the arena with scores of utter bullshit lawfare cases, and efforts to shoot him dead, Mr. Trump keeps coming at them, an implacable, relentless force, the true Golden Golem conjured up by their catamite news media. Their inability to destroy him has wrecked their minds.

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/hurricane-helene-and-the-lost-mandate

There are multiple reports of bodies stuck up in trees (link has video). There don’t seem to be any pictures confirming this yet, but one can understand why people would be reluctant to take such pictures, or to share them. ...




... There are estimates that it might take months to restore power to some areas. This is apparently in part because a large fraction of America’s stock of spare transformers were sent to the Ukraine.




... Alejandro Mayorkas, the Secretary of Homeland Security who threw the borders open to invite in millions – possibly tens of millions – of invaders, has announced that FEMA is all tapped out. They spent their whole budget on social programs for people who should never have been in the country in the first place: $640 million in the current fiscal year, and $1.6 billion since 2022. There’s been a lot of outrage over the paltry $750 being offered to the flood victims, but to be fair this appears to be the legally mandated maximum for short-term emergency assistance, with long-term assistance for e.g. housing capped at more generous $42,500. None of which changes the fact that FEMA blew its wad on illegals. This is no doubt an essential element in FEMA’s strategic plan, the number 1 goal of which is not disaster relief, but the promotion of equity.

Some of the invaders Mayorkas allowed in were arrested for looting:




... Don’t worry, though: left-wing NGOs are on the ground, providing such essential services as abortions and free PrEP.




... One particularly dark take is that the Federal government’s apparent slow-rolling of the disaster response is a form of voter suppression. North Carolina is a swing state, and with the exception of Asheville the western part of the state is deep red MAGA territory. Voters who can’t reach a polling booth because there are no roads, no power, and no communications, and who aren’t even thinking about voting because they’re more focused on food, potable water, and shelter from the elements, are much less likely to vote. Keep those people from voting, and Kamala might just take North Carolina ... and the country.




... The mood is dark, now. There is no trust left. Nor should there be, after everything that’s happened so far this century: the pointless forever wars; the great robbery of the 2008 financial crash; the COVID lockdowns; the vaxx mandates; the stolen election of 2020; the censorship and soft HR tyranny of the Great Awokening; the visible mental decay of the ruling class, many of whom can barely string together a coherent sentence anymore; the population replacement of mass immigration; the open borders; the filth and crime and drugs flooding the streets; food price inflation, the real estate bubble, and the steady collapse in living standards.

The default assumption many people hold now is that the regime is composed of criminals, of enemies. It is difficult not to feel this way. It is, indeed, almost foolish not to.

So when the regime fumble’s the response to a disaster, many will assume that it did so deliberately. ...

There’s a third theme, though, which is in the long run the most significant.

While the state dithered, schemed, bumped into itself, and got in the way, the self-organizing networks of civil society responded immediately, seamlessly, and nimbly. Civilian helicopters were the first to take to the air; relief supplies were collected and distributed by spontaneously organized rescue missions that got to work right away, without waiting for permission, authorization, or orders.

This is a story we’ve seen before many times, for example with the completely disproportionate effectiveness of autonomous networks versus established academic structures when it came to parsing reality during COVID.

Isn't it interesting for 2-3 generations, it was possible for a man with a factory job to own a modest 3 bed house and cars and TV and vacation at the lake or shore, with a pension and a gold watch, we had a massive military with an active duty size at least twice of today's, 1000s of nukes and bombers ready to roll, moved divsions back and forth to Europe for exercises annually, had double the domestic and foreign bases (or more), yet there was no national debt to speak of.

But in just the 3 decades since the Cold War ended, we have $37T in debt, can't make a TV or Toaster Oven domestically, imported tens of millions of unneeded mostly turd worlders, and can't provide emergency aid to a section of the country located less than half a day's drive from the Capitol and other major metropolitan areas. Yet in that time we had the fax machine, microcomputer, internet, cell phone, smart phone, and that's just the communications and data tools, not counting the explosion of medical, manfuacturing, etc. technology.