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I think the solutions are not very hard.

For voting, simply adopt the Israeli system: https://patrick.net/post/1380028/2023-08-30-we-need-the-israeli-voting-system

About 180 million people officially cross the US-Mexico border each year. Another 5 million is not significant, though the real number of illegals in the US is 20 to 30 million, mostly entered during the Biden administration.

If you're asking how to find them, that's not terribly hard either. Around half of LA is illegal at this point.

Patrick says

I think the solutions are not very hard.

For voting, simply adopt the Israeli system: https://patrick.net/post/1380028/2023-08-30-we-need-the-israeli-voting-system

About 180 million people officially cross the US-Mexico border each year. Another 5 million is not significant.

If you're asking how to find them, that's not terribly hard either. Around half of LA is illegal at this point.

first thing...you actually think that voting system can be implemented in the usa? And if so, why isn't it already implemented?
second thing, you didn't answer the deporting question...how do you deport 5 million people who don't want to de deported? I'm talking about the mechanics of actually doing it. Not the knee jerk "it wouldn't be too difficult" answer. Once the word got out that they were starting to deport people en masse, most would go into hiding. they would be lucky to be able to deport 500 per day...so now we are looking at 10,000 days for 5 million.

E-Verify requirements for all employers would mean the illegals would run out of money and self-deport.

Patrick says

If you're asking how to find them, that's not terribly hard either. Around half of LA is illegal at this point.

CA will not cooperate. Then what?

Patrick says

About 180 million people officially cross the US-Mexico border each year.

How many of that are multiple entries by the same people? Truck drivers and train engineers, for example.

komputodo says

would go into hiding.

Most would go home. They can't work while in hiding.

The problem with regulating elections is that it cannot be done on a Federal level. Each individual state determines their own rules and regulations through the Legislature, and, on top of that, each county has their own requirements. It all comes down to it being a 10th. Amendment States Rights issue and unless there is overwhelming evidence, the Feds will not get involved. Then there is the political aspect of it all; if the highly politicized, Deep State Justice Department (and that includes the Federal Courts) refuses to even mount a serious investigation, and the fake news media refuses to cover it, there isn't a chance cases involving voter fraud will go anywhere.

RayAmerica says

The problem with regulating elections is that it cannot be done on a Federal level. Each individual state determines their own rules and regulations through the Legislature, and, on top of that, each county has their own requirements. It all comes down to a 10th. Amendment States Rights issue and unless there is overwhelming evidence, the Feds will not get involved. Then there is the political aspect of it all; if the highly politicized, Deep State Justice Department (and that includes the Federal Courts) refuses to get involved, and the fake news media refuses to cover it, there isn't a chance cases involving voter fraud will go anywhere.

The Feds can tell the States what to do and even punish them if they do not comply, like with the Voting Rights Act.

That only applies to elections for Federal offices.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

SCOTUS, of course, has invented some additional case law, too.

komputodo says

first thing...you actually think that voting system can be implemented in the usa? And if so, why isn't it already implemented?

Yes, it's easy to implement. It hasn't been implemented because fair elections would prevent Democrats from cheating.

second thing, you didn't answer the deporting question...how do you deport 5 million people who don't want to de deported?

"Operation Wetback" deported more than a million in 1954. Should be even easier now.

If los Ferderales are really as good at tracking people as alleged, the round up would indeed be easier this time because every illegal now has a GPS tracker in his pocket.

Patrick says

second thing, you didn't answer the deporting question...how do you deport 5 million people who don't want to de deported?

"Operation Wetback" deported more than a million in 1954. Should be even easier now.

It would be for sure. If you have any electronic devices on your person, you are traceable. ICE knows where they all are anyway, but told to stand down. Wait until winter in cold states where a lot of the illegals have no proper shelter. They'd be sitting ducks for ICE and Trump should be POTUS. At least north of I-80 and east of the Rockies where it freezes.

These are warm weather people. All the new immigrants haven't encountered a winter or even snow yet that came north. This is the only travel they've done. And they'll all be in the same place with like kind ethnicities. The local cops already know where they are too. It's gonna happen. You don't need congressional approval. It's already law. POTUS can make ICE deport anyone here illegally that didn't fill out proper refugee paperwork.

Oh and Trump will be a lame duck. He doesn't have to get reelected. Law is law. Boot 'em all out. Might be harder to hire cheap landscaping and line cooks, but fuck it. Certain industries will have to adapt.