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2022 Jul 12, 1:18pm   12,111 views  217 comments

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Arrived in London this morning. Internet is spotty, but I'll try to report thoughts.

- almost no homeless, saw just one so far
- lots of trash though
- prices seem reasonable, a bit lower than SF, but that's because the pound is so low against the dollar
- the majority of people on the street are clearly not English; they are from everywhere else on earth

I did not know there was a Saint Chad:

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197   Patrick   2024 Aug 29, 7:59pm  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says





Jeez, it's not like I'm a fan of Britain, but I actually feel sorry for them now.
199   Patrick   2024 Sep 3, 4:35pm  

https://x.com/FUDdaily/status/1829854869886325040


@FUDdaily
The ethnat vs civnat debate is obsolete. The results are in. Civic nationalism by @calvinrobinson's definition holds that "it doesn't matter what race or religion you are, as long as there's a predominantly British culture that everyone subscribes to". That essentially implies a limit to the inherent absorptive capacity, and that there is, essentially, an ethnic component to civic nationalism.

So now look where we are. The Windrush generations' spokesman told us they wanted no special treatment and to simply fit in and contribute. 75 years later we have an entire race relations industry that constantly demands special treatment, and their contribution is minimal, culturally and economically.

Meanwhile, West Indian/Black culture in Britain has devolved to the status of barely housetrained, where not a single day goes by without a murder at the hands of a black individual. There is no likelihood of them integrating into British culture because British people want to get as far away from them as possible.

Then look at Muslim communities, which are increasingly separatist. They are no voting as an ethnic bloc and conducting election addresses in a foreign language. Integration is going into reverse. The Indians aren't much better. They also bring their third word tribal squabbles to our shores.

The multiculturalism as sold to us by the BBC is a fiction. Integrated minorities who accept our culture and participate as equals are the outliers. Go to any English summer event like an air show or a steam rally and you won't see BAME faces. Their history is not our history. They have no interest in it.

Muslims particularly come as colonisers rather than immigrants. Asylum seekers are freeloaders. Blacks are just a drain. I wish I didn't think this, and it would be more socially convenient if I didn't, but I simply cannot ignore the patterns. Mass immigration is turning Britain into a low trust, high crime society, and if civic nationalism ever could work, the rate of influx has fatally disrupted the demographics to the point where only radical and highly discriminatory policies could ever correct it.

As regards to Steve Laws, his position is one of graduated removals which is entirely reasonable. If we want Britain to remain a high trust functioning civilisation then we have to discriminate against cultures and practices that undermine it. That starts with the acknowledgement that third-worldism cannot be integrated, doesn't belong here, and was never wanted or needed in the first place.

If such corrective action is not taken then the situation no longer meets Calvin Robinson's "so long as there's a predominantly British culture" qualifier. As such, the debate is one of how far we should go. Steve Laws would go further than most, perhaps beyond what is necessary, but he's essentially correct, and unless we implement a regime of removals based on a citizenship classification framework, then Calvin Robinson's model of civic nationalism is living on borrowed time.

People generally prefer to stay in the safer waters of civic nationalism for social convenience, and people like Steve Laws are castigated as a buffer against being labelled far right. It's an exercise in plausible deniability. It's pretty much the same cowardice as the liberal left with just a bit more self-awareness.

The problem with ethnonationalism is that there is sometimes a drift towards white supremacy etc, but that isn't the driver of resurgent nationalism. It's a pragmatic recognition that ethnic minorities are organising politically on ethnic lines and it's to the detriment of own own survival if we don't do likewise - not least because the neoliberal establishment doesn't believe in the idea of borders and nations as homelands.

If having a homeland means anything at all it's having a say in who can settle here and on what terms. We are not obliged to admit anyone from anywhere or allow them to set up shop in our nations to replicate and perpetuate their own cultures at the expense of our own.


OK, but this is also why the British should not be in Ireland at all.
205   stereotomy   2024 Oct 6, 7:48pm  

Nice - glad you're a fan as well.
209   RWSGFY   2024 Oct 7, 9:22pm  

Patrick says






He's fluent, because this is exactly what the say in Moscow:









212   Patrick   2024 Oct 23, 7:12pm  

https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/uk-grandfather-dies-in-prison-after-controversial-sentencing-for-anti-immigration-protest/


Peter Lynch, a 61-year-old grandfather, has died in HMP Moorland, reportedly taking his own life after being jailed for his involvement in a protest against the housing of illegal immigrants.

Lynch was sentenced to two years and eight months in August following a protest at the Holiday Inn Express in Rotherham, where tensions had risen over the government’s immigration policies. Protesters believed the voices of local citizens were being ignored as more asylum seekers were placed in their towns.

During the protest, Lynch expressed frustration at authorities and the media, holding a placard calling them “corrupt”, and yelling at officers.

His sentencing drew criticism from those who felt the punishment was harsh for what they saw as a legitimate outcry over unchecked immigration and the strain it places on local communities.

Lynch had no previous criminal record.


I'm pretty sure Lynch did not kill himself.
213   AmericanKulak   2024 Oct 24, 12:04am  

I felt this hurt.

215   mell   2024 Oct 30, 9:43am  

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says




https://medium.com/the-geopolitical-economist/how-the-uk-is-becoming-a-third-world-economy-8fbdfdb412ea

They have been for a while. Even in the 80s and 90s a Brit's whole paycheck is spent by the end of the month. Brexit was a good first step but they need to fire their whole establishment and kick the snack bars out
216   HeadSet   2024 Oct 30, 12:45pm  

mell says

Even in the 80s and 90s a Brit's whole paycheck is spent by the end of the month.

Yes, I remember when I was there in 1980 and again in the early 90s, most Brits did not fill up the car's petrol tank. They usually only bought a few litres to get through the week and bought more fuel after payday.

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