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https://slaynews.com/news/top-forensic-pathologist-testifies-daniel-penny-trial-chokehold-did-not-cause-death/

Top Forensic Pathologist Testifies at Daniel Penny’s Trial: ‘Chokehold Did NOT Cause the Death’

A leading forensic pathologist has testified for the defense during U.S. Marine veteran Daniel Penny’s trial in New York.

26-year-old Penny is accused of killing Jordan Neely on the New York City subway in 2023.

Neely was reportedly making violent death threats toward fellow subway passengers.

Penny and other passengers stepped in to protect other subway riders as Neely became increasingly erratic.

In an effort to subdue Neely, Penny placed him in a chokehold.

Neely, a homeless drug addict, later died.

Despite police saying Neely was still alive when they arrived, and confirming that officers refused to give him CPR, prosecutors charged Penny with manslaughter.

Penny now faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted on the top charge he faces, manslaughter, for the death of 30-year-old Neely.

However, on Thursday, forensic pathologist Dr. Satish Chundru took the witness stand and offered a dramatically different conclusion than the New York City Medical Examiner’s Office.

“The chokehold did not cause the death,” Dr. Chundru testified.

Chundru is a former Miami-area medical examiner who now runs a private practice in Texas conducting autopsies in a half-dozen counties.

The top expert told the court that he did not believe an air choke caused Neely’s unconsciousness and, therefore, did not cause his death.

Chundru said he found the cause of death to be “the combined effects of sickle cell crisis, the schizophrenia, the struggle and restraint, and the synthetic marijuana.”

Three days the jury has been in deliberation.

That means one or more jurors are holding firm in a Seven Angry 'They' scenario, I bet.

Patrick says

Maybe someone wants big cities to turn to shit. Maybe they will buy up cheap real estate and then put the police back, raising land values.

they definitely raised real estate prices in the country. used to be 5k an acre, now it’s around 300k an acre. and everyone expects it to boom once Trump goes on spending spree. Republicans always outspend Democrats via government.

If this ends in a hung Jury, and they decide to re-try, maybe Trump can pardon him. Or is this a state crime with no federal jurisdiction?

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

That means one or more jurors are holding firm in a Seven Angry 'They' scenario, I bet.

This is generally a good sign.
DOGEWontAmountToShit says

And father of the guy he didn't even kill is suing him already.

People should sue the family: What actions did the family take to stop things?

rocketjoe79 says

If this ends in a hung Jury, and they decide to re-try, maybe Trump can pardon him. Or is this a state crime with no federal jurisdiction?

State.

And father of the guy he didn't even kill is suing him already.

Governor of whatever state could pardon. That undercuts the DA though if on the same side and wasted a bunch of time. So not likely unless it's the random R governor against D state DA.

Hochul will never pardon Penny,

WookieMan says

Governor of whatever state could pardon. That undercuts the DA though if on the same side and wasted a bunch of time. So not likely unless it's the random R governor against D state DA.

In NY? He's white. 'Victim' was schizo POC.

Do the fucking math.

This is so absolutely fucking disgusting.

RedStar says

This is so absolutely fucking disgusting.

Oh. I bet shit is lit in that jury chamber, tho.

Most of the jurors are women. But, since Penny interceded on behalf of a woman in this case, I bet the arguing isn't is all the women jurors vs the male ones.

More like the white karens who-never-take-the-subway vs everyone else.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

In NY? He's white. 'Victim' was schizo POC.

With over 40 convictions.

The jury might come back with the least of charges to "Split the Baby".

AmericanKulak says

With over 40 convictions.

Yes. Schizo's tend to commit crimes.

What should be questioned is: OK, if he was so schizophrenic, then why was he convicted of anything? That should have been an automatic get out of jail free card.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/daniel-penny-jury-deliberations-delayed-due-to-three-jurors-being-severely-beaten-on-subway-ride-to-courthouse

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/new-york-city-prosecutes-spider-man-for-saving-people-on-a-subway

This right here should be good enough for the defense to have the case thrown out:

Manslaughter charge dismissed; jury told to now deliberate on second, lesser charge;



https://nypost.com/2024/12/06/us-news/daniel-penny-trial-judge-agrees-to-drop-top-manslaughter-count-after-jury-deadlocks-twice/

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Manslaughter charge dismissed; jury told to now deliberate on second, lesser charge

That is not good, as the lesser charge is more certain of a conviction. All charges should be dismissed.

HeadSet says

That is not good, as the lesser charge is more certain of a conviction. All charges should be dismissed.

They were told to deliberate on the first before the second. A set up.

Let's see:

1. A Black guy was restraining Neely
2. A Spanish guy was restraining Neely
3. Neely was breathing when the cops came, they didn't want to do CPR because he stank.

Only Perry is charged.

There's no doubt Bragg is a racist fuck and so is his estrogen insensitive tranny whatever it is prosecutor.

But I bet the NYPD is being nice and quiet to keep the attention on Neely and not on their refusal to render aid.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

They were told to deliberate on the first before the second. A set up.

Agree. I'd hope people are more like me if I could be on a jury (can't). I'd just not say a word. I don't know this story well enough, but from what I know I'd just tell the other jurors to get fucked if I said anything.

Choking someone out is a defensive tactic. 99% of the time it's safe. It sounds like he was trying to calm down a situation with non-lethal means. The problem is if stopping someone you don't know their health. Reasonable doubt. You can't assume he wanted to kill. Don't commit the initial crime and this isn't even a topic.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/taking-chances-saturday-december/comment/80486285

Ryan Gardner
1h

At the same time, i belive it was last week, that crazy homeless dude that pushed an elderly man onto the NYC subway tracks, resulting in that mans death, has had his sentence reduced recently and will be released on some arcane law that's never been used, by the very same corrupt prosecutor that is trying to lynch Penny for doing the right thing.

Complete inversion of Penny's incident

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/dangerous-maniac-jordan-neely-got-4-months-in-jail-for-attempting-to-kidnap-7-year-old-girl-in-2015/

Neely was arrested 42 times across the last decade, with his most recent bust in November 2021 for slugging a 67-year-old female stranger in the face as she exited a subway station in the East Village, cops said.

The senior citizen suffered a broken nose and fractured orbital bone when she was knocked to the sidewalk, along with swelling and “substantial” head pain after hitting the ground.

Neely eventually pleaded to felony assault and received 15 months in an alternative-to-incarceration program that, if completed, would have allowed him to plead to misdemeanor assault and get a conditional discharge.

But a warrant was issued for his arrest on Feb. 23, when he skipped a court compliance court date where a judge was to be updated on whether he was meeting all the requirements of the program.

On June 27, 2019, Neely was arrested for punching a 64-year-old man in the face during a fight in a Greenwich Village subway station, cops said.

And he was busted in August 2015 for attempted kidnapping after he was seen dragging a 7-year-old girl down an Inwood street. He pled guilty to endangering the welfare of a child and was sentenced to four months in jail. ...

The post reads in part:

Used to be all cool, dancing to MJ in the subway train, but as of late he’s become a maniac.

Sometime in late Spring/early Summer I saw him in the train, his radio fucked up and he was angry as fuck, cursing and badmouthing commuters screaming “What the fuck are you looking at? Don’t fucking look at me!

Ever since that day he’s just been a scary dude to me.

A post on Reddit from nine years ago warns the public about #JordanNeely. The man’s death after being restrained by passengers has ignited BLM rage because one of the passengers involved appears to be white.

https://thepostmillennial.com/witness-says-jordan-neely-started-making-death-threats-against-passengers-before-daniel-penny-engaged-him

The 66-year-old woman, who chose to remain anonymous, told the New York Post that Neely's erratic behavior soon took a turn for the worse and he began shouting at other passengers.

"He said, 'I don't care. I'll take a bullet, I'll go to jail' because he would kill people on the train," she recalled. "He said, 'I would kill a motherf*cker. I don't care. I'll take a bullet. I'll go to jail'."

She went on to explain how Penny reacted in the situation, noting that he "did not stand up, did not engage with the gentleman. He said not a word. It was all Mr. Neely that was … threatening the passengers."

Seems like a test case for the most corrupt and captured court system in America next to the foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/judge-tells-jury-to-go-back-and-deliberate-again-until-they-come-back-with-the-correct-verdict

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/democrats-warn-daniel-penny-acquittal-could-lead-to-rampant-acts-of-heroism

I'm adding this story to my long list of reasons to never set foot in NY (or at least NYC) again. Even driving through it to get to Long Island sucks.

zzyzzx says

I'm adding this story to my long list of reasons to never set foot in NY (or at least NYC) again. Even driving through it to get to Long Island sucks.

Therein lies the point. GET THE FUCK OUT OF CITIES AND AVOID THEM! Not a joke I only generally go for the airport and make sure I have enough gas to get home and back without stopping. That's on the trip checklist, full tank of gas. I fortunately don't have to deal with real Chicago outside of Cicero Ave to Midway. Ghetto, but I've done work in the area. The classic 30/30/30 split for Chicago White/Black/Hispanic and then some other races. Crime and ugly but not bad. O'hare isn't Chicago at all. Just a shitty airport and grounds for parking and rental cars.

I get maybe 18-22 staying in a city. I would never have a kid in even the yuppiest part of Chicago or any city. I wouldn't marry a woman that wants to be in the city. Grew up in the country, did city for 10 years and will never go back. It's pure misery. I don't care about family either. Come to me. Realize you're on the dark side and see the light if you think cities are good.

Patrick says

It's a Karin!