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DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Patrick says

Why doesn't it work? Tracks for high speed trains too expensive to build?

Economically and just practically, the math doesn't work.

Just like there isn't a thriving bush plane sector in Europe & Japan, but there is in Alaska, Australia, Canada & parts of Brazil & Africa.

You're right with population density. Even then every town/city is going to want a stop along the way. If I take a one way flight to say San Diego, but have to stop in St. Louis, Omaha, Denver and Salt Lake City then San Diego, is that efficient? Fuck no. That's what train travel is bad even if they go 400mph. And they'll want more stops to generate revenue.

It could work in the Northeast. Freight takes precedent over passenger as well. Makes new lines and land acquisition expensive AF. Plus if anything is within 5 hours just drive at that point. Large cities going 200mph are 50 miles apart in Europe. So it makes sense.

Perfect example. I want to go to St. Louis from Chicago. 5 hour drive. I have to drive an hour (best case) into the city. Pay parking. A non-stop train will still take 4 hours. I'm 6-8 hours deep at least. I'll just drive or could fly in 3 hours with 50 minutes in the air.

And from what I know of California I don't even know that it makes sense there. I'm surprised FL is doing it. But if they keep it along the east coast Miami to Jacksonville it kind of makes sense. You have 5-8 logical stops that would be better than driving or flying. But still, I don't think most Americans if traveling are going to want to travel in their own state.

I'm on a plane going somewhere 90% and 10% driving to WI, MI, IN or MO. Iowa is gay. I'd maybe take a sleeper car train trip in Alaska in the summer. I wish Southwest flew up there instead of Hawaii. They need one flight into Guam for sure though.

On the other hand, trains usually go right into the center of town so you save time there.

Patrick says

On the other hand, trains usually go right into the center of town so you save time there.

The train problem is the grifter towns. They want a stop. So fine, it goes fast, but has to stop every 20 miles. If you can get me to St. Louis or Minneapolis with no stops at 300mph, let's go. Not happening in the US. I also don't trust on grade crossings with cars/trucks.

People freak out about flying. Fuck trains. I'm not going to hit a semi in the sky. I get fears of height from some people, but it's the safest travel. Think about a derailed train going that fast. Everyone is dead. Some of those being miserable deaths. At least a plane crash is generally instant death.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

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Given I have a decent amount of friends/family born in the 90's. The women are whores from the 90's and 2000's. Guys don't want to marry them. It's one thing to have fun when young, but fucking 30-40 different dudes? Honorable dudes ain't going to want you. Young men do want relationships, they just don't trust women anymore. Social media is likely the cause. Act like a whore, get attention and then you have to be the whore. Rinse and repeat.

Well, well, well..truth eventually comes out.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Did it ever occur to anybody like the Cramer figure on TV, whose investment advices were invariably wrong, but nonetheless he never lost his public presence, that these guys were subsidized purposely lying and not just fucking stupid as shit with stupid as shit followers? The Nobel Prizes were a casualty of misdirection already from many years ago. Krugman's "job" has been to lie from falsified authority?

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

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Patrick says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Aside the fact that the math just doesn't work for HST in 99% of America

Why doesn't it work? Tracks for high speed trains too expensive to build?

Three aspects here.

Yes it’s incredibly expensive. The right of ways plus building in mountains.

Second, it’s the effing government. All the California high speed train was is Jerry Brown paying back the unions that are his political donors. Create additional government bureaucracy represented by unions. And in fact that’s what happened.

Finally, there’s truly no purpose. People bemoan how early you have to leave to get through LAX but Long Beach, John Wayne, Burbank, and Ontario service millions. And those don’t require you leave home three hours before your flight to SF or LV. It only takes a few minutes to go through TSA at those locations. And those flights can be had for $99-120 round trip. And quicker overall than any train.

I still assert that the LA to Vegas train idea came from some buffoon who tried to drive back to LA on a holiday return day where everyone with a brain knows it’s gonna be a 7 hour trip because California drivers are terrible. Said buffoon was probably bitching and moaning the whole way and comparing it to Europe. Basically considering buffoons own needs and desires and nothing else…like the 300+ days a year where this dynamic doesn’t exist. And instead buffoon thinks like a buffoon and says to himself “oh the trains in Europe are just SPLENDID!” Instead of considering cost, cost of airfare, not going on holiday weekends, etc.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

And those don’t require you leave home three hours before your flight to SF or LV. It only takes a few minutes to go through TSA at those locations. And those flights can be had for $99-120 round trip. And quicker overall than any train.

The problem with train routes in the US is every town/city is going to be lobbying for a stop. Unless passengers load and unload in 10 seconds at each stop, it's a pointless endeavor. Europe has major hubs much closer to each other. They can go 100 miles without stoping. That's not happening in the US. There are too many mid sized cities on almost every route. If I have to go to Chicago to get on a train, I'm just going to Midway and flying.

Chicago to say St. Louis non-stop on a HST would take me 90 minutes to get to Union station and park. Then check in. Mind you there's no parking garage on site. Today with wind chills at 15ºF it would blow. Then if you have tracks that don't cater to freight, so say 250mph non stop it's still a 3-1/2 hour trip. Flying would be the same. But I park the car and am in an elevator to the terminal in 20 seconds.

Freight versus passenger trains one hurdle. Right of way as FTMM mentions another. Infrastructure. Tracks and grade crossings so you don't hit a car going 200 mph. Then you get into the bridge game. Stations would need upgrading. It's 100% doable, but why waste the money? We need to stop spending money. Also existing freight lines you would share are insanely difficult to deal with. It takes them months to do anything to help a project get going.

I hate more government, but there should be a DOT2.0 (Department of Trains). The rail companies are about as gangster as you can get. They give no shits about any other government body. They get to do whatever they want. They just build a bridge or the tracks in a neighboring community. It got held up and made the project take 5 years. Not a joke. Could have been done in 2 years accounting for winter here.

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DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Gotta move on at some point.

https://x.com/Globalstats11/status/1866181918330327172

Crazy stupid policing. Those gals will get killed by someone if that's routine for them. If he's got shrooms or weed, who cares? Won't kill anyone. Most deaths happen on the roadway, not a sidewalk. Start taking cell phones from drivers. Those are more dangerous than someone getting high sitting on a couch listening to music or a movie.

Gee, for a moment I was wondering if it was lesbians frenzied with cock hunger who were going to gang bang the yute for their occasional dick fix.

Women should not be police.

Women should only interview female and child victims, handle female perps, and do paperwork. Perhaps traffic control.