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jazz_music says

Ohhhh, the weather!

Let's have the "definition of climate" debate!

The dictionary defines climate as the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years.

So climate is the history of weather.

Like the weather the climate is changing all of the time. We have gone through ice ages and warm periods much warmer than now. During the warm periods life prospered. During the cold periods life suffered. Where would you rather live in an arctic tundra or a tropical rainforest?

Don’t forget skiing in Tahoe in June!

jazz_music says

Ohhhh, the weather!

But if it was a mild winter: Hooo boy, look at the Global Warming evidence!

It's fucking cold in Arizona. I guess not even the desert can help GW. I'll have to move to the islands to keep Global Warming from freezing my ass four months of the year.

Germany forced to rely on non-renewable energy after cold snap froze renewables
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqM9OIPzMHs

@zzyzzx,

this is live CO2 emission map: https://www.electricitymap.org/ranking

Germany with its "renewable" and "green" electricity production emits tons more CO2 than France, which uses nucular. Green energy is bad for environment....

Rb6d says

@zzyzzx,

this is live CO2 emission map: https://www.electricitymap.org/ranking

Germany with its "renewable" and "green" electricity production emits tons more CO2 than France....

... and to do so sends billions of dollars to Putin for the privilege to suck natgas out of his dick.

If they start up with the global warming thing again, remind them that "China accounts for 28 percent of all global CO2 emissions. And China continues to build coal-fired power plants at a rate that outpaces the rest of the world combined."

https://e360.yale.edu/features/despite-pledges-to-cut-emissions-china-goes-on-a-coal-spree

jazz_music says

Ohhhh, the weather!

Hahahaha hoo boy!

Incredible!

It might take you several decades, and you may never learn, but to follow the science is to fit a model to observation - not the other way around.

I fully believed in the "global warming hysteria" that started in 1985 and I believed it up until 2005. That's 20 years. I still held on to a bit for another 10 years, until I fully abandoned it as bullshit.

There is no model that makes anything close to accurate predictions. I'm not joking when I say I really can run a simulation of a Cray Supercomputer at my desk. Many people can't and don't realize it - what I can't do is run a fucking climate model because none is available.

All the shit I was taught about with SF flooding and NYC being underwater by 2000 I fully believed and dreaded as a young engineering student in the late 1980s. It turned out to be a complete lie.

It's been 35 years of bullshit, and I thought I was slow to realize it was bullshit. Took me 20 years to find out they were full of crap, and 30 to realize with certainty they are.

I remember thinking "scientists couldn't get away with lying" - and they can't - but our "news" media gets away with lying about what scientists claim.

Now there's a new crop of poor gullible kids believing the world is going to end in 10 more years. They'll figure it out quicker than I did because they have more data. The question is - will people like you ever figure it out?

There are many reasons why the global warming hoax is fake bullshit.

The first and easiest to understand is the assumption that the output of energy from the sun is constant, like the wattage of a lightbulb. So, if the earth temperature varies from the “normal”, “something caused it, WE caused it!”

Except, the assumption is wrong; the energy output of the sun varies, particularly cosmic rays.
At CERN in Switzerland, they created clouds with cosmic rays.
This experiment proved that cosmic rays can vastly influence the weather.

After this and the revelations on wikileaks about fraud hockey sticks and Al Gore making money from the issue, I’m convinced it’s all bullshit.

Last year, many states along the east coast set a record during late spring frost. For some states, it came a full month later than their previous record in May! This isn't the type of thing that supposed to happen in a "rapidly warming" planet. Temperature, on average is increasing approximately a degree per 100 years. It's been doing this for a long long time prior to fossil fuels. For the life of me, I can't understand how they convinced all this bitches that are the biggest pussies in the world who complain about how cold it is during the winter that living conditions somehow fall apart with an average temp of 2 degrees higher in the year 2200.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/15/the-deadly-heat-wave-of-july-1936-in-the-middle-of-arguably-the-hottest-decade-on-record-for-the-us/

Rb6d says

Germany with its "renewable" and "green" electricity production emits tons more CO2 than France, which uses nucular. Green energy is bad for environment....

Just wait until all the CO2 emissions from having to dredge those 30M deep Wind Turbine Foundations up out of the ground... and dispose of the Carbon Fiber/High Tech materials that make up the Turbine - can't be incinerated at all.

I started taking my styrofoam cup with me everywhere just to dare somebody to start shit with me, and get a lecture.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

I mean we are what? 98.6ºF. Probably should be about what we exhaust.

I don't get why warming is bad. Never understood it. Water level changes by the movement of tectonic plates. Of the land (soil) with ice it's a nothing burger if it melts. If anything places like Canada get a better or longer growing season. I don't get when people don't understand ground water. Unfrozen tundra can now absorb 80% of the precipitation allowing more growth. It doesn't go into oceans.

All water level change is almost exclusively because of land movement. And IWOGS old wet bulb BS. So you go outside in a sauna. Come inside to your AC. Our biggest threat is not having enough electric more than anything. Erosion and shit will happen on shorelines, but that's not water level rise.

Either way they've been wrong for at least 50 years at this point.

China - over a billion humans breathing emits CO2
India - over a billion humans breathing emits CO2
Half of world population.
If global warming is a problem, we should see effects first in those areas.

REpro says

If global warming is a problem, we should see effects first in those areas.

The effect from additional CO2 put in the air is that plants grow faster. That has been proven many times over the years with high school AP class terrarium experiments.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/a-red-storm-sunday-december-15-2024

A bizarre apocalypse article, based on a recently published astrophysics study, bubbled up through leftwing media this week, finally topping the New York Times’ home page yesterday. It bore the terrifying headline, “Superflares Erupt From Stars Like Our Sun Once Every 100 Years. ...

The study published this week in the journal Science with a title nearly identical to the Times’ headline: “Sun-like stars produce superflares roughly once per century.” (After the appalling pandemic trend of civilians doing their own research, the journal Science joined many other science journals and locked its content up behind an expensive paywall waived for Establishment types and corporate media. The high priests of science will tell you what you need to know, dummy.) ...

Let us pause to reflect that the data these scientists used was not new. The information was collected by NASA’s Kepler satellite telescope, which retired back in 2017. The Times suggested nobody noticed till now because they didn’t have good software tools. But I’d suggest that we’re only finding out now because the results are too different from approved orthodoxy, and so no respectable scientists wanted to find them, at least not until conditions improved.

Given the wild solar weather this year, new theories about the Sun are permissible. A little. Welcome to modern science.

And as for pandemic favorite The Ethical Skeptic (TES), the data genius who revealed and regularly reported on the CDC’s mendacious jab mortality data meddling, his true love is his well-developed but intellectually challenging theory of a recurring pole/solar disaster cycle. ...

The problem is that Establishment Science is politically allergic to two scientific theories: 1) any model attributing Earth’s changing climate to anything besides human activity, or 2) any model explaining Earth’s geology as being caused by catastrophic events like Noah’s flood, rather than by gradualism, the notion that Nature’s slow, steady, uniform forces can fully explain all Earth’s geologic features.

Since Hancock, Davidson, and TES all argue for catastrophic cycles causing both geology and climate, their ideas are doubly anathema to capital-S ‘Science.’ The arrogant left considers them not just heretical, but as “non-scientists,” instantly disqualifying them right out of the gate for lacking the right credentials (and more importantly, lacking the right politics).

So, considering their long-standing opposition to catastrophism and non-human climate influence, what should we make of the far-left New York Times promoting this catastrophic “every hundred years” superflare story, which violates, or at least threatens to violate, both banned ideas?

And especially since the story lends credibility to heretics like Hancock, Davidson, TES, and other heterodox catastrophists?

The answer is not obvious, and the Times isn’t saying. But recent events suggest a solution. Two weeks ago, the Economist ran a scary science story headlined, “Earth's magnetic North Pole is shifting toward Russia.” (Cue complaints about Russian disinformation, which is now confusing the North Pole.) “The pole,” the Economist economically noted, “is on the move.” Moving could become problematic. “If the Earth's magnetic field is disrupted,” the Economist darkly warned, “it may cause problems in technology and navigation, as well as expose the planet to unwanted radiation.”

Here’s the point: Could this year’s increasingly bizarre solar activity (with its astonishing, historic, worldwide aurorae and its weakening magnetic field), combined with the North Pole’s sprinting-speed geomagnetic excursion, be scaring the Establishment into considering previously unthinkable possibilities or, Heaven help us, the potential for a natural catastrophe not caused by cows burping?

These rapidly unfolding events must create a growing sense of urgency for Establishment Science to explain what’s happening, even if only to retain their crowns as experts and prevent customers from going somewhere else. Maybe that urgency, combined with the terrifying ultra-urgency of Trump’s appointment of heterodox scientists to run the main scientific agencies which, after all, award the grants, has the Scientific Establishment feeling especially apocalyptic this week.

Maybe we’re getting somewhere.