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Rin says

Here's the problem with both Hinduism and Buddhism, no source leader.

In other words, the discussion between Arjuna and Krishna was little more than some parable. No historical events corroborate with it. And in the case of Gautama, the Pali Canon was written down, 300 years after his death. That makes it difficult for anyone to determine if it was merely a myth based upon rumours and innuendo of some super monk.

How can it be Myth, There is no way you can dispute the most logical Hindu religion. Hindus are powerful monkey DNA and haven't evolved into weak humans.
1) Monkey can fly while carrying "Mount Everest" in his palm.
2) Some Hindus can eat Sun as breakfast and cause "solar eclipse" and Sun only comes back when they vomit it out.

FarmersWon says

How can it be Myth, There is no way you can dispute the most logical Hindu religion:
1) Monkey can fly while carrying "Mount Everest" in his palm.
2) Some Hindus can eat Sun as breakfast and cause "solar eclipse" and Sun only comes back when they vomit it out.

Yes, it's the anime of the ancient world.

Rin says

Yes, it's the anime of the ancient world.

Now you are disrespecting the "Greatest and oldest civilization" of world. People are eliminated for this blasphemy.
Anime is hitting below the belt on the epitome of civilizations.

FarmersWon says

Now you are disrespecting the "Greatest and oldest civilization" of world. People are eliminated for this blasphemy.
Anime is hitting below the belt on the epitome of civilizations.

Here's the problem, India has to go on ... not because it has anything of interest going on, but it's the best hope that one day, the Persians get their act together, expel Islam from their vocabulary, and go back to Zoroastrianism. For now, India, and to a lesser extent, Sri Lanka & Thailand, are keeping eastern based religions alive in an area with rampant Islam-A-Badisms.

Islam-A-Bad is the current capital of Pakistan. (Hint! Hint!)

Islam and Persia are like Pablo Escobar (scumbag, gangster criminal) & Audrey Hepburn (refined, elegant lady) settling down and having serial killers for children. It needs to change as Arabs and Persians have little in common besides that nasty Saudi border.

Hindu Junk!

https://x.com/PurnimaNath/status/1867975660142031264
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DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Old Redneck proverb: "Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up quickest."

Tenpoundbass says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Old Redneck proverb: "Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up quickest."

HAHA Rural folks always have wisdom learned over time.

FarmersWon says

Christians and Muslims should learn from Hindu and start worshipping Dildo.

Dildo love will make both religions great like Hindu!!!

sometimes your sense of humor surpasses AF. thanks for the laugh sir

@patrick

https://x.com/scribe9104/status/1869082572816552029

In the video, senior US Army handler Daniel Stephen Courtney can be heard providing military drones, bulletproof jackets etc. to Kuki terrorists in Manipur and inciting them to attack the Meitei community

@Rin and @Tenpoundbass

I am neither talking about Christianity nor Islam.

Why are you discussing religion here. My question is if christian converts in India want to attack and break India will you support those terrorists or Indian govt in eliminating them.

It is a simple question.

Looks like India bashing discussion is still going on other threads.

https://www.opindia.com/2024/12/andhra-pradesh-trainee-christian-nun-at-st-joseph-convent-hostel-delivers-child-kills-by-throwing-newborn-out-of-window-details/

Here is some news for those India/hindu bashers.

indc says

My question is if christian converts in India want to attack and break India will you support those terrorists or Indian govt in eliminating them.

It is a simple question.

What does “attack and break India” mean? They’re a tiny fraction of the population. What does “eliminate” mean? For someone thin-skinned about H1B criticism (“bashing”), you use pretty extreme language when you’re the majority group.

Tenpoundbass says

the Color Revolution of the Maxistization of China.

WUT?

indc says

Rin and Tenpoundbass

I am neither talking about Christianity nor Islam.

Why are you discussing religion here. My question is if christian converts in India want to attack and break India will you support those terrorists or Indian govt in eliminating them.

It is a simple question.

I mean you're asking a question without a solid premise or facts. You're saying Christian converts are attacking India in what way. Physically assaulting and beating heathens in the street, or are you calling it an attack on India, because now they found Jesus, they are repulsed by local traditions and customs, and reject them? Are they going even further, like Leftist lunatics here America that want to tear down statues and landmarks because of their feelz over imperialism Whittie.
Are these Christians retaliating because a female in their family were group groped in public and or rapped? And now all they ask is Muslims and Hindus come up to the 21st century and reject things in the culture that are not accepted anywhere else in the world, except where Hindus and Muslims live?

I mean look what the Left and European NGOs has done to Christianity in the West. We have a Commie Pope that pulled a coup to get in power, and we've got psychotic Gay priests and other such unsavory characters in the church. Where were you to defend the Christian church against that perversion?

If I had more info about the Christians in question, then I could speak more to your question, regarding my seat on the bandwagon.
Christians by very nature feel they have to spread the gospel. What there shouldn't be any room for is Zealots that are willing to chastise, and flog the masses to make them relent. That's no different than any strict Muslim country that demands you follow all of their customs.
I certainly don't have any love for Christian fronts that are backed by NGOs trying to tame the masses so they can take the resource spoils.

goofus says

What does “attack and break India” mean? They’re a tiny fraction of the population. What does “eliminate” mean? For someone thin-skinned about H1B criticism (“bashing”), you use pretty extreme language when you’re the majority group.

Where did you get the "tiny fraction of population". The manipur state of India is 55% christians.
And i want to know where did you get that I dont take H1-B criticism. Show me 1 post where I am crying for that visa?

Tenpoundbass says

I mean you're asking a question without a solid premise or facts.

I guess you can check this video for more facts.
https://youtu.be/prjWBhiGAgc?si=c56xxZabbioS-ZML

I shared more posts in this thread showing how kuki christian terrorists are killing hindu meiteis. And getting funding from christian missionaries who are providing them with AR, mortars, IEDs and other weapons to wage a war against INDIAN govt.

OK I just watched that video. It wasn't informative, it was his opinions. He didn't have a name, or an organization he was riling about he was saying he's against Christianization. Christianization organically is people with beliefs and ideas. You can't stop that any more than the Establishment can't stop MAGA.
Are there nefarious actors behind a movement that could have ulterior motives to drive Hindus away and take over through Christianity.

I mean here in America the effort to uproot local values and traditions are intentionally being imported and placed in those towns.

Is that happening in India with Christianity, or is it a case of Christianity spreading through the parishioners?

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

Americans next need to show the world how to eat ass. I doubt it's 40 percent. https://archive.thetab.com/uk/coventry/2019/09/04/straight-men-who-dont-eat-ass-are-weak-4895

https://x.com/Sanjay_Dixit/status/1877209310729535772

“Jesus, please kill Narendra Modi, Amit Shah, Nirmala Sitharaman, & Yogi Adityanath. Jesus, give us the strength to destroy the Ayodhya Ram temple and build a church.." From a Tamil Nadu Church. So many faiths have hidden agendas for the destruction of India & sanathan faith... and the Hindu is expected to be secular... God knows when the mass of the Hindu population...will really wake up to the harsh realities.....

Tenpoundbass says

OK I just watched that video. It wasn't informative

Thank you for checking the video and giving your input. What do you think about formation of East Timur?

I will share videos with more and better information in future.

indc says

The manipur state of India is 55% christians.

Huh, I did not know that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipur#Religion

Christianity is the religion of 41% of the people in the state, but is the majority in rural areas with 53%, and is predominant in the hills. It was brought by Protestant missionaries to Manipur in the 19th century. In the 20th century, a few Christian schools were established, which introduced Western-type education. Christianity is the predominant religion among tribals of Manipur and tribal Christians make up the vast majority (over 96%) of the Christian population in Manipur.

Patrick says

Huh, I did not know that.

When india got independence. Hindu saints asked Nehru our first prime minister to let them go to thise states and stop these conversions happening based on christian lies.

But that bastard told them that they are no go zones for those saints but gave full rights to those christian missionaries.

That is what happens when you beg for freedom instead of taking it by force like USA.

indc says

Hindu saints asked Nehru our first prime minister to let them go to thise states and stop these conversions

They are thinking for themselves, Oh my GOD somebody stop them!

Tenpoundbass says

They are thinking for themselves, Oh my GOD somebody stop them!

Nope, did you read @patrick comment from 0% christians they became 50% christian under british rule. Hindu saints wanted to change this distortion.
I know you are a jesuit at heart i dont blame you. But what is the difference between muslims and christians if they convert people when they are in power?

https://x.com/BJDOnny123/status/1877373239598448908

Brave Hindus kicked 30-40 paid cryptos who came with loud speakers to disturb the peace in the area and to convert gullible Hindus. Brave Hindus not only stopped them, argued nicely and kicked them all out.

indc says

I know you are a jesuit at heart i dont blame you. But what is the difference between muslims and christians if they convert people when they are in power?

I would have no problem with Hindus coming to this country and forming a majority community. I would take great delight in going to Little India during that colored powder festival and have a ripping time at it. But there's a huge difference with Muslim communities. It's not enough that they come they must force people into their religion and even advocate death and violence toward the nonbelievers. If I were to go to Dearborn Michigan during Ramadan or some Muslim festival I would be assaulted or knifed for some fauxpas that I was unaware I was committing, any female with me would get acid thrown on her face for not covering her head,, and so on.

Now are you saying those Christian converts in that area are converting people through force and intimidation? Because that's the big difference here between all religions and those religions caution toward Muslims. Muslims don't get the homework assignment.

Also Indc you said those Christian areas are "no go zones" I have a hard time believing that you mean it in the same context that Muslims has created no go zones in Europe and Dearborn Michigan.
Perhaps they were declared no go zones by the zealots in the Hindu and Muslim communities worried they might lose another one to Ditech(bubble era commercial reference). Which by the way, why aren't you upset about all of the Muslim conversion in India? But are saying that the Christians in those "No go zone" Christian areas violently reject any outside nonbelievers from going to those areas? Are they acting like Muslims and Hindus in that regard, then see my original answer to your Christian perplex.
Where I said not every Christian around the world are the same homogenized culture, where "Love your brother" reigns supreme. Some can be just as zealous and head chopping serious as those other religions in their region. They just drank a different flavor of Koolaid.
Why don't you just convert them back?

Tenpoundbass says

But there's a huge difference with Muslim communities.

Right, Muslims consistently murder random innocent people who refuse to convert to Islam, or who speak up about what Mohammed actually did.

Christians don't murder people in the name of Christianity, or at least they are not supposed to even if the Catholic Church of the middle ages was rather intolerant and oppressive.

Jesus didn't murder anyone, but Mohammed murdered lots of people.

If you guys think Hindus are any better than Muslims you haven’t seen Hindu crimes.

Hindus are world’s worst genociders and gang rapists. No women safe from Hindu gang rapists.

Documents Hindu Crimes:
https://www.hindutvawatch.org/

List of Sikh babies killed by Hindu terrorists:
https://ensaaf.org/

Documenting Hindu crimes against Christians:
https://x.com/FriedrichPieter

Hindu genocided and raped Sikhs just for their religion:
https://time.com/3545867/india-1984-sikh-genocide-anniversary/

Tenpoundbass says

Now are you saying those Christian converts in that area are converting people through force and intimidation? Because that's the big difference here between all religions and those religions caution toward Muslims. Muslims don't get the homework assignment.

Yes I am saying that. They are threatening Indian forces and killing hindus and threatening to vacate their homes.
Should indian forces use extreme measures?

From your statement looks like you think I am dismissing your concerns about muslims in west. I am not. I am just saying the basic ideology is same for both religions. And can hindus have ancestoral land for themselves in India. Without the threat from dollar funded missionaries. And the west stop threatening INDIA whenever a skirmish happens with christians in India?

Right!
What I am trying to ascertain from Indc is if these conversions are happening through duress and coercion?
Is it the elder Christian are whipping up the masses to attack nonbelievers and force them to convert, or face the violent consequences. Or are these organic instances of people coming home to Jesus where they see a better option than the other mainstream religions in the region.

If Muslims were the religion of peace, and actually practiced what they claim they are. Which lies in stark contrast to their actions. The Islam creep would be impossible to stop in America if it were spreading due to organic spirituality. But what is happening they are being foisted upon communities, and language is being criminalized to oppose or offer any honest critique of the results. We have many in black urban areas converting to Muslim, American's don't see them as the root cause of the Muslim creep but rather a product. If the American constitution was applied to the Islamic community and they were held to the same constitutional standards as other religions. They would either have to change their tune or be driven out and even incarcerated. Prisons are full of Cult leaders.

Without giving me any other input other than he's defending his homeland traditional values. But he knows it's not prudent for me to return the same sentiment for my own country. Now he would have me champion oppressing minority religions and groups in his own country, where I can't do it in my own country. And it's very unamerican to dislike a group just based on those monikers alone. We have a wide breadth of grievances to go along with our rejection and complaints. The underlying politics, the preferential treatment and the double standards, are the American complaint with such ill-suited cultures that come to America.

When I ask him about his concerns he just points to the population growth. America can't and won't complain about domestic Islamic growth. It's the imported culture that clashes and is in stark violation of our Constitution that we reject. Having inmans that rattle their swords and shout death to America on our own streets during our founder's day parades. That's where we draw the line the bunkers and militia training centers in the desert that trains kids to be future Jihad terrorists, while Obama laughs, that's what we reject. Tangible gripes that goes beyond what books they read.

Tenpoundbass says

Also Indc you said those Christian areas are "no go zones" I have a hard time believing that you mean it in the same context that Muslims

Yes. You may dont want to believe but that is the truth. Hence I keep asking will you support Indian govt if they change them back to "go zones" or green zones.

He's confusing me for a Liberal. They huff and puff over percentages and numbers. I want facts.

In what way are they no go zones?

Do the Christians string up wanderers that strayed into those areas. Or is it the Inmans from the mosque down the street that will stone you to death for going?

Yes isn't squelching my curiosity and you want get me on board with tightlipped answers.

Also this is how you can tell someone is losing the argument, or really doesn't understand their own grievance they have with an issue.

"Watch the video!"

Patrick says

Jesus didn't murder anyone, but Mohammed murdered lots of people.

But Jesus is imaginary and MoMo was real. I am kidding about Jesus.😉

My point is it doesn't matter what those figures did. All that matters is what are their followers doing now.
I am sure 98% of christians are harmless and dont even know what the missionaries say or do.

TechBrosWon says

If you guys think Hindus are any better than Muslims you haven’t seen Hindu crimes.

Hindus have the home court advantage here. I won't knock them for existing in India. I'm just trying to wrap my head around why a Christian minority in a Country which it is. Can't have one region in the country where they are a marginal majority? Aside from him telling me, that they are just a rabid head choppers over nonsense that isn't even Christian like or they are being manipulated by NGO's and are converted or they don't get work, money or housing.
I can't comment on who's at fault, I'm not saying any of the religions are better in India. But there are always pot stirrers and agitators that manipulates the spirituality for their own personal gain. Like say a Skih was to come to Patnet and try to manipulate every post about our crooked dishonest politics and try to inject their own biased supremacy agenda.

Tenpoundbass says

In what way are they no go zones?

Tenpoundbass says

"Watch the video!"

You asked me to explain how they are no go zones. I provide a video proof.

Sikhs have no supremacy stuff, see daily prayer below.
Hindus are dangerous for 🇺🇸 as they are Trojan horses of 🇮🇳 to destroy 🇺🇸 for BRICS.

@tenpoundbass
I think you have problem with me speaking truth and saying things plainly with proof.
Freedom of speech is important.

Sikh motto/prayer:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbat_da_bhala
The term outlines one of the most important of Sikh principles and is a point that is repeated in the Sikh Scriptures. The Sikh concept of sarbat da bhala which means "blessings for everyone" or literally "may everyone prosper".[1] This statement is repeated by all practicing Sikhs at least twice daily as part of their Nitnem (daily prayers). This concept is central to Sikhism and forms a very important and essential role in the religious philosophy of the Sikh Gurus.

The guy in that video was talking up his opinion no more or no less than what you are doing now. He provided no facts, no news wire, no names, no organization. He just blamed Christians.
His gripe goes back to when the Portuguese ruled over Indonesia and spread Christianity, which spread to India.
We all know how Christianity got to Asia, but the Kings of Europe isn't funding crusades to Asia with the papacy mandates today.

We can't apply 15th century politics and foist them upon todays politics. That what Liberals around the world are doing to erase our own culture. We reject it there, and I reject it here.