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Does India have an H1B program to make sure the best Pakistani and Chinese programers are involved in Indian Companies?

Rudyard Kipling was a great Indian.

He was born in India.

The moment a British East India company man's foot touched the Magic Soil of India, he became an Indian.

I don't know why India is so upset about railroads and other gifts of the Indian-British High Skilled Immigrants.

Kipling's father was a British East India H1B.

For people who think outrage against H1-B is not really a racist messaging.

https://youtu.be/G6p8qiD5d4Y?si=SEC3RkLBt5kV2gtW

AmericanKulak says

Does India have an H1B program to make sure the best Pakistani and Chinese programers are involved in Indian Companies?

If you are white and have good skills to be a CEO you can easily get placement in Indian company with decent salary.

AmericanKulak says

Kipling's father was a British East India H1B.

This is called false equivalency. Indians are not landing with guns and cannons to loot your jobs and resources. We are actually trying to stabilize your economy. That is the difference between hindu and an abrahamic.

indc says

We are actually trying to stabilize your economy

What load of crap.

indc says

If you are white and have good skills to be a CEO you can easily get placement in Indian company with decent salary.

False equivelance; we're comparing fairly entry level jobs of H1Bs to CEO jobs? There are other visas for CEOs.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

indc says

We are actually trying to stabilize your economy

What load of crap.

I agree. Crap statements get crap responses ;)

AmericanKulak says

False equivelance; we're comparing fairly entry level jobs of H1Bs to CEO jobs? There are other visas for CEOs.

You can look for mid level jobs in India. But salaries are not competetive. But the experience you gain can be weighed in diamonds. 😁

indc says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

indc says

We are actually trying to stabilize your economy

What load of crap.

I agree. Crap statements get crap responses ;)

Tell me. How does forcing me to train my H1B replacements how to do my job constitute 'stabilizing the economy'?

Hindus fucking whites hard.
Is this revenge by Jew controlled Hindus for British rule?

https://x.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1877144701788102827
Microsoft is planning to fire more American workers so they can replace them with cheaper H-1B Indian workers.

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

AI will fail due to Hindus incompetence.
So look for 🇺🇸 to become 🇮🇳.

zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

AI "Agents" - coming soon!

AI will create an even bigger workforce to replace the workers it replaced. Someone has to curate the data that gets force-fed to customers.
All AI is, us just an over complicated AdLib game. There's bits of AI that is bleeding edge and a huge leap in technology. But AI is just a blanket word to cover everything that is the latest and greatest Chip and Programming achievements.
AI as it's called is currently being used in cold call telemarketing. I would love to see a study on numbers of deals they were instrumental in closing. And just how far along that process it got, before humans had to take over the sell. Then how many humans are employed to monitor and see the deal through?

I bet human Indians in a call center in Calcutta has a better success rate, with old ladies annoyed by their foreign accent.

Tenpoundbass says

Someone has to curate the data

It will be agents again. Agents employing other agents, making micropayments to each other using some form of crypto currency. I've heard it will be bitcorn but I sort of doubt that, might be too slow. If you own an agent you only pay for the fraction of the compute it used again, with crypto plus whatever it paid other agents.

That is all without the robots that are going to start taking jobs en masse by the end of the decade. 10-15 years out there will be more robots than humans on the planet.

I've started to use chatGPT, Gemini and co-pilot to assist with my software dev the past 2 months and I'm already at least 10x more productive than I was 6 months ago.

I hesitated to use it like my co-workers were but they kept saying things like, "There is no shame in using it, maga_chaos_monkey", to me and they were right. I have to use it now to keep up. The company I work for purchases licenses for these. Apparently 'training' is turned off.

This is even though I work on building/using our own home-grown AI for our particular biotech needs. I didn't want to start using the 'other stuff', but damn it is that good. We pay for newer versions that aren't exposed to the general public for the most part yet.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

AI "Agents" - coming soon!

In many companies it is not allowed to avoid patent violations.
Nobody knows whose code they are using.

"zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

AI "Agents" - coming soon!

"Tech"Bros says
In many companies it is not allowed to avoid patent violations.
Nobody knows whose code they are using"

This guy has me blocked but still wants to make stupid comments about my posts. I can tell he's not a tech dev. We don't use it to steal others IP like sound, video or cloning websites or software.

If I'm building something and I want to do some obscure thing I've never or rarely done. Related to one or more libraries I'm not very familiar with it will tell me about some lesser known feature that would take all day reading docs to find, assuming I thought there was something to find. Not only that it'll give me other options and even show me ways to test.

If that fails it'll help me find out why it didn't work with further instruction and example test steps to take. It's really amazing.

In fact, just this week I was speaking with an RND bioinformatician at our company and he told me the bench scientists have all but stopped going to them asking questions, they are getting their data analyzed and questions answered with AI.

I don't think this is a horse and buggy vs. automobile scenario. I don't think H1Bs are going to be around much longer either.

Apart from answering simple questions fairly precisely where you would have to sleuth through stackoverflow or other forums before and IDE code completion suggestions where it's both fairly good at I don't see how this is going to replace anyone, except for maybe very clear repetitive tasks such as writing tests against a library or fetching lookup data from various sources and packaging them nicely.

It's just the start and if I made it sound like autocomplete I failed... All of these are moving along like Moore's law. Primarily so far chatGPT is the most impressive.

I'm not really supposed to but I ask it all sort of other stuff, like issues I'm having with my saltwater coral marine tank. It does a bang up job. Like if I'm battling chrysophytes (which is something new spreading in the community and few real solutions) and I don't want to use GFO (because I want the phosphates) it will even recommend some products... It's clear it is skimming websites like reef2reef.com though. But it goes beyond that and makes logical extensions etc. So far it claims to not know who I am other than that I like terraform - which I don't. It probably thinks I'm the devops guy who set it up.

fwiw, I'm not exactly happy about this but it's clear where we are going.

I think it can do better, but this is the free version:

Can you summarize patrick.net?

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While it started as a niche site focusing on real estate, over time it has expanded to include broader financial and economic issues. The site tends to attract users who are skeptical of conventional economic wisdom and the housing market, often offering alternative perspectives on finance, investment, and real estate policy.

The version I am using at work is much much better. This is just 4o mini.

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Haha that's cool. Btw. I agree on enhanced productivity, e.g. if you want to know a JS method to remove parts of an array while leaving the original array intact Gemini will directly point you to slice whereas prior you would have to click on at least one more link or more until you found a relevant thread with a solution. I just cannot see the replacement part atm. Also once you get a but deeper into the weeds such as optimizing/refactoring an existing db schema, you need original context and purpose, not just technical details

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

"zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

AI "Agents" - coming soon!

"Tech"Bros says
In many companies it is not allowed to avoid patent violations.
Nobody knows whose code they are using"

This guy has me blocked but still wants to make stupid comments about my posts. I can tell he's not a tech dev. We don't use it to steal others IP like sound, video or cloning websites or software.

If I'm building something and I want to do some obscure thing I've never or rarely done. Related to one or more libraries I'm not very familiar with it will tell me about some lesser known feature that would take all day reading docs to find, assuming I thought there was something to find. Not only that it'll give me other options and even show me ways to test.

If that fails it'll help me find out why it didn't work with further instruction and example test steps to take. It's really amazing.

I don’t block anyone.
IT is not core engineering SW/tools.

In real leading edge tech it is not allowed to pull code from AI to avoid lawsuits.