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H1-B visa discussion and american isolationism.


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2025 Jan 6, 7:40pm   1,153 views  72 comments

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I want to express my opinion on this discussion as a person who used it.

If US doesn't want to issue the H1-B or any other legal visas i am ok with it. Because giving a visa and getting one is a privilege.

If US dont want to issue any visas it shows that it want to isolate itself from rest of the world. I am ok with that approach too. It will slow down Americas growth with these isolation policies.

My question to patnet is why this hate against India/hindus. We didn't make the visa policies nor control its implementation.

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16   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 7, 12:27pm  

Sikhs know lot of stuff the reason 1.5B Hindus are always irritated with them.

I personally know a 2 Hindu guys who got Russian mail order bride. One significantly improved 🧬 pool of kids and other was H1B guy who was stripped of everything and sent back for whatever reason. (May be Russian bride made some police report or something)

Let Dennis repopulate. I guess 1.5B Hindus reported against him.
https://x.com/johnny_bra44292

Hindus have same I guess, mail order Hindu brides for $1k.
17   Eric Holder   2025 Jan 7, 12:35pm  

indc says


RWSGFY says


Ask Vivek why he decided to go on a racist rant and shit on the American culture when he learned about Trump voters being unhappy with the policy.

I am sorry. Which part of american culture did he talk against. I am curious to know.



He claimed that American culture celebrates mediocrity.

PS. Why are you even in this discussion if you are not up to speed on the whole H1-B covfefe?
18   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 7, 12:37pm  

Eric Holder says


indc says


RWSGFY says


Ask Vivek why he decided to go on a racist rant and shit on the American culture when he learned about Trump voters being unhappy with the policy.

I am sorry. Which part of american culture did he talk against. I am curious to know.



He claimed that American culture celebrates mediocrity.



He is H1B from advanced nation of 🇮🇳.
Nepotism and corruption is not present in that beautiful nation.
I know many Indians who got bored of 🇮🇳 beauty and moved to 🇺🇸.
https://x.com/TechBrosWon/status/1872792623670575279
19   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 7, 12:43pm  

indc says

My question to patnet is why this hate against India/hindus.


That's where you are wrong, the issue isn't hate that is what Farmerswon, Elon Musk and Vivek would have you believe. For the record, we're also upset that Mexicans are talking all of the high skilled construction jobs. The last two years here in South Florida, 90% of the work being done in the building trade are by people from south of Texas. Just ten years ago, the immigrant defenders were swearing up and down, that Mexicans were only doing jobs Americans didn't want to do.. Like picking crops and cleaning our shorts. Farming was a very respectable profession in this country as little as 20 years ago. Rural people farming made money to own every heavy equipment you can imagine from dump trucks to front end loaders, dually pick up trucks, the wife drove a luxury car, and their farm had a farmhouse, a house for the farmhands, and even had a big mansion for the family in many cases. Farming wasn't some frivolous job that no American wanted to do. Not by a long shot. And to sit and watch anyone from any country take skilled jobs from Americans, while Elon, Vivek claim Americans can't do it. They now even have Indians believing it to. Forgetting that they had to be trained by the asshole they replaced. Just so that poor sap could get his measly severance check.

Ask a serious question now, with out the Obamaesque division. That's what we've got Farmerswon for.
20   indc   2025 Jan 7, 4:22pm  

Eric Holder says

He claimed that American culture celebrates mediocrity.


Thank you for your response. I saw many people here on patnet saying that Americans are becoming mediocre because of school system. And vivek added that it is TV shows which are making American kids mediocre too. How is it different from what other patneters said? Isn't MAGA supposed to be make America great from its mediocre state?
21   indc   2025 Jan 7, 4:26pm  

Tenpoundbass says

That's where you are wrong, the issue isn't hate that is what Farmerswon, Elon Musk and Vivek would have you believe.

I can share with you hate videos and laura roomer posts which spread like wildfire.
22   gabbar   2025 Jan 7, 4:43pm  

indc says

I can share with you hate videos and laura roomer posts which spread like wildfire.

Are Americans supposed to not hate Indians if Indian H-1B's are taking away food from American dining tables?
23   indc   2025 Jan 7, 4:53pm  

gabbar says

Are Americans supposed to not hate Indians if Indian H-1B's are taking away food from American dining tables?

Nice sarcasm.
But question is are Indians forcing themselves on americans or they are entering America legally? US can close the visa if Americans are going hungry. Canada is doing that stopping to issue anymore PR.
24   Eric Holder   2025 Jan 7, 4:54pm  

indc says

Isn't MAGA supposed to be make America great from its mediocre state?


If American culture is so mediocre why the representatives of supposedly superiour Indian culture are flocking here? Trying to help out of goodness of their hearts? Why not make their own country great again? Or it's so perfect that nothing can be improved? 🤡
25   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 7, 4:58pm  

@tenpoundbass ‘s only beef with me seems to be that I don’t share his relentless worship of Trump no matter how stupid stuff he does to hurt Americans.

To add to that he adds my views on Hindu genociders to protect his Trump worship!
26   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 7, 5:01pm  

Eric Holder says

indc says


Isn't MAGA supposed to be make America great from its mediocre state?


If American culture is so mediocre why the representatives of supposedly superiour Indian culture are flocking here? Trying to help out of goodness of their hearts? Why not make their own country great again? Or it's so perfect that nothing can be improved? 🤡


Is India Great?
Hindus : Yeah
Can you move to India?
Hindus; No

This is typical of dual loyalties people who are here to suck 🇺🇸 dry and then return back to be elites.
27   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 7, 5:02pm  

gabbar says

indc says


I can share with you hate videos and laura roomer posts which spread like wildfire.

Are Americans supposed to not hate Indians if Indian H-1B's are taking away food from American dining tables?


H1B’s should be worshipped like Hindu God’s Dildo for stealing jobs from Americans.
28   indc   2025 Jan 7, 8:22pm  

Eric Holder says

If American culture is so mediocre why the representatives of supposedly superiour Indian culture are flocking here? Trying to help out of goodness of their hearts? Why not make their own country great again? Or it's so perfect that nothing can be improved? 🤡

How do you know Indians are not making it great again. It is just the overflow population that is fixing the US economy. We are 1% but paying 6% of total tax collected by US govt.
29   indc   2025 Jan 7, 8:27pm  

TechBrosWon says

H1B’s should be worshipped like Hindu God’s Dildo for stealing jobs from Americans

Abey kotestani, the whole point of this thread is racist rants against Hindus. And you keep repeating the same thing. If i use bad words for your sikhi religion you will start crying again. And i dont give a frack about your gurudwara is it representation of vagina you. know just like womens opening
30   RWSGFY   2025 Jan 7, 8:30pm  

indc says

Eric Holder says


If American culture is so mediocre why the representatives of supposedly superiour Indian culture are flocking here? Trying to help out of goodness of their hearts? Why not make their own country great again? Or it's so perfect that nothing can be improved? 🤡

How do you know Indians are not making it great again. It is just the overflow population that is fixing the US economy. We are 1% but paying 6% of total tax collected by US govt.


Not sure if serious. Have you been to India? They will need 1000x the overflow population of supposedly superior engineers to make it barely decent, let alone great. They can't spare a single fucking one if they are serious about improving things there.
31   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 7, 9:17pm  

Nice to see that India has no tariffs on US imports and allows unlimited foreign workers. Everybody from Burma and Bangladesh welcomed in.

"America can't have nationalism, but my country needs nationalism and some common sense protection"
32   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 7, 9:46pm  

indc says


TechBrosWon says


H1B’s should be worshipped like Hindu God’s Dildo for stealing jobs from Americans

Abey kotestani, the whole point of this thread is racist rants against Hindus. And you keep repeating the same thing. If i use bad words for your sikhi religion you will start crying again. And i dont give a frack about your gurudwara is it representation of vagina you. know just like womens opening



What is Kotestani?
I don’t like when Sikhs do stupid stuff in Gurudwara and we make joke of them ourselves.

Worshipping dildo is very stupid!
Hindus take the 🎂 for idiocy, Sikhs share Hindu videos with MAGA crowd everyday to make fun of Hindu stupidity.

I would love Hindu to make fun of Sikh stupid stuff so that Sikhs can fix it. It has to be true and with proof and not false information like Hindus are used to.
33   goofus   2025 Jan 7, 10:01pm  

indc says

Eric Holder says


If American culture is so mediocre why the representatives of supposedly superiour Indian culture are flocking here? Trying to help out of goodness of their hearts? Why not make their own country great again? Or it's so perfect that nothing can be improved? 🤡

How do you know Indians are not making it great again. It is just the overflow population that is fixing the US economy. We are 1% but paying 6% of total tax collected by US govt.


Because you’re sitting in jobs - good jobs - formerly done by Americans. That’s not a feather in your cap, more an indictment of our bad leadership, absurd DEI policies, and cheap labor seeking. Companies Indians have overwhelmed aren’t doing too well are they? Intel and Boeing?
34   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 8, 12:00am  

Does India have an H1B program to make sure the best Pakistani and Chinese programers are involved in Indian Companies?
35   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 8, 1:16am  

Rudyard Kipling was a great Indian.

He was born in India.

The moment a British East India company man's foot touched the Magic Soil of India, he became an Indian.

I don't know why India is so upset about railroads and other gifts of the Indian-British High Skilled Immigrants.

Kipling's father was a British East India H1B.
36   indc   2025 Jan 8, 3:50pm  

For people who think outrage against H1-B is not really a racist messaging.

https://youtu.be/G6p8qiD5d4Y?si=SEC3RkLBt5kV2gtW
37   indc   2025 Jan 8, 3:53pm  

AmericanKulak says

Does India have an H1B program to make sure the best Pakistani and Chinese programers are involved in Indian Companies?

If you are white and have good skills to be a CEO you can easily get placement in Indian company with decent salary.
38   indc   2025 Jan 8, 3:57pm  

AmericanKulak says

Kipling's father was a British East India H1B.

This is called false equivalency. Indians are not landing with guns and cannons to loot your jobs and resources. We are actually trying to stabilize your economy. That is the difference between hindu and an abrahamic.
39   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 8, 4:07pm  

indc says

We are actually trying to stabilize your economy


What load of crap.
40   AmericanKulak   2025 Jan 8, 4:17pm  

indc says

If you are white and have good skills to be a CEO you can easily get placement in Indian company with decent salary.

False equivelance; we're comparing fairly entry level jobs of H1Bs to CEO jobs? There are other visas for CEOs.
41   indc   2025 Jan 8, 8:15pm  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

indc says

We are actually trying to stabilize your economy

What load of crap.

I agree. Crap statements get crap responses ;)
42   indc   2025 Jan 8, 8:17pm  

AmericanKulak says

False equivelance; we're comparing fairly entry level jobs of H1Bs to CEO jobs? There are other visas for CEOs.

You can look for mid level jobs in India. But salaries are not competetive. But the experience you gain can be weighed in diamonds. 😁
43   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2025 Jan 8, 11:00pm  

indc says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says


indc says

We are actually trying to stabilize your economy

What load of crap.

I agree. Crap statements get crap responses ;)


Tell me. How does forcing me to train my H1B replacements how to do my job constitute 'stabilizing the economy'?
44   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 8, 11:28pm  

Hindus fucking whites hard.
Is this revenge by Jew controlled Hindus for British rule?

https://x.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1877144701788102827
Microsoft is planning to fire more American workers so they can replace them with cheaper H-1B Indian workers.
45   zzyzzx   2025 Jan 9, 7:21am  

AI will eventually replace H1-B's
46   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 9, 10:32am  

zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's


AI will fail due to Hindus incompetence.
So look for 🇺🇸 to become 🇮🇳.
47   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 11, 1:06pm  

zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's


AI "Agents" - coming soon!
48   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 11, 1:17pm  

AI will create an even bigger workforce to replace the workers it replaced. Someone has to curate the data that gets force-fed to customers.
All AI is, us just an over complicated AdLib game. There's bits of AI that is bleeding edge and a huge leap in technology. But AI is just a blanket word to cover everything that is the latest and greatest Chip and Programming achievements.
AI as it's called is currently being used in cold call telemarketing. I would love to see a study on numbers of deals they were instrumental in closing. And just how far along that process it got, before humans had to take over the sell. Then how many humans are employed to monitor and see the deal through?

I bet human Indians in a call center in Calcutta has a better success rate, with old ladies annoyed by their foreign accent.
49   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 11, 1:55pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Someone has to curate the data


It will be agents again. Agents employing other agents, making micropayments to each other using some form of crypto currency. I've heard it will be bitcorn but I sort of doubt that, might be too slow. If you own an agent you only pay for the fraction of the compute it used again, with crypto plus whatever it paid other agents.

That is all without the robots that are going to start taking jobs en masse by the end of the decade. 10-15 years out there will be more robots than humans on the planet.
50   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 11, 2:00pm  

I've started to use chatGPT, Gemini and co-pilot to assist with my software dev the past 2 months and I'm already at least 10x more productive than I was 6 months ago.

I hesitated to use it like my co-workers were but they kept saying things like, "There is no shame in using it, maga_chaos_monkey", to me and they were right. I have to use it now to keep up. The company I work for purchases licenses for these. Apparently 'training' is turned off.

This is even though I work on building/using our own home-grown AI for our particular biotech needs. I didn't want to start using the 'other stuff', but damn it is that good. We pay for newer versions that aren't exposed to the general public for the most part yet.
51   TechBrosWon   2025 Jan 11, 2:54pm  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

zzyzzx says


AI will eventually replace H1-B's


AI "Agents" - coming soon!


In many companies it is not allowed to avoid patent violations.
Nobody knows whose code they are using.
52   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 11, 5:46pm  

"zzyzzx says

AI will eventually replace H1-B's

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

AI "Agents" - coming soon!

"Tech"Bros says
In many companies it is not allowed to avoid patent violations.
Nobody knows whose code they are using"

This guy has me blocked but still wants to make stupid comments about my posts. I can tell he's not a tech dev. We don't use it to steal others IP like sound, video or cloning websites or software.

If I'm building something and I want to do some obscure thing I've never or rarely done. Related to one or more libraries I'm not very familiar with it will tell me about some lesser known feature that would take all day reading docs to find, assuming I thought there was something to find. Not only that it'll give me other options and even show me ways to test.

If that fails it'll help me find out why it didn't work with further instruction and example test steps to take. It's really amazing.
53   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 11, 5:58pm  

In fact, just this week I was speaking with an RND bioinformatician at our company and he told me the bench scientists have all but stopped going to them asking questions, they are getting their data analyzed and questions answered with AI.

I don't think this is a horse and buggy vs. automobile scenario. I don't think H1Bs are going to be around much longer either.
54   mell   2025 Jan 11, 6:07pm  

Apart from answering simple questions fairly precisely where you would have to sleuth through stackoverflow or other forums before and IDE code completion suggestions where it's both fairly good at I don't see how this is going to replace anyone, except for maybe very clear repetitive tasks such as writing tests against a library or fetching lookup data from various sources and packaging them nicely.
55   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Jan 11, 6:15pm  

It's just the start and if I made it sound like autocomplete I failed... All of these are moving along like Moore's law. Primarily so far chatGPT is the most impressive.

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