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RayAmerica says

Nomograph: $0.00
Troy: $0.00
Duck Dude: $0.00
elliemae: $0.00
What more needs to be said?

You're assuming that none of us have donated. Unless you have access to our finances, you don't know. Assuming makes an ass out of you.

This thread, like just about everything you post, is childish. Your rabid insistance that everything is our president's fault, your juvenile challenges, and your portrayal of yourself as a victim... all childish. Love your posts, because your inability to see that we're fucking with you - always - are a great source of amusement as you earnestly try to indoctrinate us into your hatred of the status quo and all things Obama. Were you breast fed as a child... I mean, are you breast fed?

Your "challenge" is comical. You remind of my children when they were three - except they were interesting.

elliemae says

You remind of my children when they were three - except they were interesting.

And you call me "comical." LOL !!

Liberal/Leftist Give Meter Update: $0.00

It's really kind of nice to be the object of ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae's attention. If only she wasn't crazy. Oh well, you can't have everything.

This whole thread is merely the conservative version of the oft-posted-liberal-nonsense: "conservatives shouldn't use any public roads, libraries, hospitals, police officers, firefighters...etc." Actually it's probably not fair to label that flawed logic liberal, since Sean Hannity of Fox news did call Ron Paul a hypocrite during the presidential election race for accepting basic infrastructure federal money for his district.

It's all disingenuous BS.

I will say that the fact that NO ONE would send extra money to the government is proof that the federal government is not a charity. Not even the liberals arguing for higher taxes feel that the federal government is efficient at helping the less fortunate. If anyone actually believed in the government's egalitarian efforts, they would have no problem donating extra income to the feds, just like they would to a charity.

elliemae says

rayray tried to keep his attacks going by reviving an old thread. he’s on the attack again, which is what happens when one is attempting to shift the focus from acts he may, or may not have perpetrated against young girls…
He’s a nasty little troll with no desire to do anything other than be thought of as a nasty little troll.

Ellie's back to her mindless, crazy slander that I am a child molester. The Nazi Joseph Goebbels practiced the same evil tactic: "If you repeat a lie over and over again the people will eventually believe it." Way to go ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae. You're in elite company with the Nazi’s Propaganda Minister.

If donations were voluntary, it would undermine one the liberals greatest needs - the obsessive need to control others.

RayAmerica says

I am a child molester - this nation’s worst enemy. My argument is that it COULD in fact happen again and probably will. I am enthusiastic and I can't comprehend the cures - I debase others just before I go to bed.

Come on people, support the cause. Off with the top of my head, just for fun.

Well, rayray - it's about time that you addressed the charges. Thank you.

ok ... time for a humor break .... to move things along I will just put up the punch line:

".... well Sir, that's what I do with it (sore thumb) while I'm in the kitchen ......"

Thanks for adding to this thread, so that it got my attention. I was too busy back then to read it. Great stuff from Troy, Nomograph, I wog and others ( and lets not forget Ray ).

I've been trying to think of some other phrases like " too big to fail."

How about...

"too small to succeed"

or

"too old to learn."

Bap33 says

well Sir, that’s what I do with it (sore thumb) while I’m in the kitchen

Anchorman? I'm lost, here.

Nomograph says

The Liberal/Leftist Give O’ Meter is up to $2,451,266.91!

Maybe he couldn't hear the cha-ching of change being deposited due to hearing blockage he's incurred as a result of his case of rectal-cranial inversion. In my career, I've never seen such a severe case.

I know I'm late to the party but I'd like to mention this.
The first one to compare something to nazi's or Hitler loses the argument.
end...

elliemae says

Bap33 says

well Sir, that’s what I do with it (sore thumb) while I’m in the kitchen

Anchorman? I’m lost, here.

a man orders soup
the waiter brigs out the soup but has his thumb in the soup
the man orders coffee
the waiter brings out the coffee, but his thumb is once again in the coffee
the man asks the waiter why he keeps putting his thumb in the stuff
the waiter says he hurt his thumb and the warm liquid helps the pain
the man says, "you can stick that thumb right up your arse"
to which the waiter says, "Sir, thats what I do with it in the kitchen".

silly I know, but funny.

Hitler was much more honest and twice as smart as Lord Barry ... and not nearly as dangerous to Americans and Jews as Lord Barry. I would never compair the two, that would be silly.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_iowa_obama_billboard

There's a billboard that includes Obama & Hitler on it... rayray is probably spewing with excitement over it.

I cant believe anyone would truly not want social security. Thats heartless, they are too old to be working jerk. What if they had no kids they would be homless people everywhere

Gee, I wonder why they forgot to save for their own retirement.

great reference to five degrees by ellie

elliemae says

There’s a billboard that includes Obama & Hitler on it

Is ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae comparing Obama to Hitler again? Very interesting. Very, very interesting.

Good try rayray. You stopped playing with yourself long enough to try to insult me - and I'm sure that your hand could use the rest.

Thanks for recognizing the five degrees, Bap. I'm a big fan of the game, it's so simple.

elliemae says

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_iowa_obama_billboard
There’s a billboard that includes Obama & Hitler on it… rayray is probably spewing with excitement over it.

Another fine illustration of ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae. LOL

you guys will laugh ... I thought that said "spew excrement" in the original post ... seems kinda funny now

elliemae says

Good try rayray. You stopped playing with yourself long enough to try to insult me - and I’m sure that your hand could use the rest.

LOL, that was pretty funny. This thread may be inane and childish but at least it's amusing.

a4adam .... doesn't take much to make you laugh. Keep reading ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae. She's at her funniest whenever she makes an attempt to say something meaningful.

Bap33 says

you guys will laugh … I thought that said “spew excrement” in the original post … seems kinda funny now

No, Bap. He spews excrement. We've all read it...

RayAmerica says

a4adam …. doesn’t take much to make you laugh. Keep reading ellie “I never, ever insult anyone” mae. She’s at her funniest whenever she makes an attempt to say something meaningful.

I would respectfully disagree. I'm funny aldatime - but I'm at my best when I play with trolls.

Another example of a Liberal not wanting to GIVE:

Sen. John Kerry skips town on sails tax

By Gayle Fee and Laura Raposa
Friday, July 23, 2010 - Updated 1 day ago
Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I.
Isabel - Kerry’s luxe, 76-foot New Zealand-built Friendship sloop with an Edwardian-style, glossy varnished teak interior, two VIP main cabins and a pilothouse fitted with a wet bar and cold wine storage - was designed by Rhode Island boat designer Ted Fontaine.
But instead of berthing the vessel in Nantucket, where the senator summers with the missus, Teresa Heinz, Isabel’s hailing port is listed as “Newport” on her stern.
Could the reason be that the Ocean State repealed its Boat Sales and Use Tax back in 1993, making the tiny state to the south a haven - like the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and Nassau - for tax-skirting luxury yacht owners?
Cash-strapped Massachusetts still collects a 6.25 percent sales tax and an annual excise tax on yachts. Sources say Isabel sold for something in the neighborhood of $7 million, meaning Kerry saved approximately $437,500 in sales tax and an annual excise tax of about $70,000.
The senior senator’s chief of staff David Wade denied the old salt was berthing his boat out of state to avoid ponying up to the commonwealth.
“The boat was designed by and purchased from a company in Rhode Island, and it’s based in Newport at the Newport Shipyard for long-term maintenance, upkeep and charter purposes, not tax reasons,” Wade told the Track.
And state Department of Revenue spokesguy Bob Bliss confirmed the senator “is under no obligation to pay the commonwealth sales tax.”
But back in 2006, then-gubernatorial candidate Christy Mihos took some flack for avoiding some $23,000 in Bay State sales tax and $1,320 in local excise taxes by berthing his motor yacht in Rhode Island. But Mihos paid just $475,000 for his 36-foot vessel Ashley and readily admitted that he used the boat at his West Yarmouth summer home.
However, according to Bliss, if Kerry berths the Isabel in Massachusetts waters within six months of purchasing the boat, there’s a “presumption of use” and the Heinz-Kerrys would have to walk the plank and pony up to the Bay State. After six months, should the boat change its berth to, say, Nantucket, then it’s up to the state to go after them for the taxes, Bliss added.
Yesterday, the Isabel, which lists Great Point LLC of Pittsburgh, Penn., as its owner, was getting a spruce-up at the Hinckley shipyard in Portsmouth, R.I. Sources say the senior senator is demanding that some warranty work be done.
Fontaine, a protege of legendary sailboat designer Ted Hood, was tight-lipped about the owners of Isabel but he did confirm the boat was built in New Zealand. According to Internet reports, Kerry was seen in Whangarei last December inspecting his new high-seas plaything.

RayAmerica says

And state Department of Revenue spokesguy Bob Bliss confirmed the senator “is under no obligation to pay the commonwealth sales tax.”

RayAmerica says

Sources say Isabel sold for something in the neighborhood of $7 million, meaning Kerry saved approximately $437,500 in sales tax and an annual excise tax of about $70,000.

Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I.

I have correctly pointed out all along that the radical left is the epitome of hypocrisy.

elliemae says

RayAmerica says
And state Department of Revenue spokesguy Bob Bliss confirmed the senator “is under no obligation to pay the commonwealth sales tax.”

Nice example of how little ellie LIES. She's taken this completely out of context. Sen. Kerry has "no obligation" to pay taxes to Massachusettes BECAUSE he purposely avoided those taxes by mooring his yacht in Newport, R.I. instead. This is the same Senator that repeatedly has voted to RAISE YOUR TAXES because it's "fair." LOL !!!

but rayray, I was quoting you. exactly. without changing a thing. not one little bit. so, if I'm lying, it was a direct quote from you.

big deal, he bought a yacht in RI, is keeping it there and because of that won't pay more taxes. do you believe that he’s the only person in the US who takes advantage of loopholes? When you file your taxes, do you itemize or do you just pay the amount based on your salary – do you use loopholes?

http://www.missouriprovote.org/Docs/CTL%20Cashing%20In%20Report2.pdf
“Closing the Geoffrey Loophole would generate $15 million in revenue for the
state of Missouri.vi However, Republican leadership has claimed closing corporate tax
loopholes would harm the state’s business climate.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/nyregion/06loopholes.html
GOP Unites to Defend Tax Loopholes
“closing the tax loopholes would provide the city with $374 million in the next fiscal year, rising to $379 million a year thereafter — more than making up for the loss of $327.9 million in annual aid.”

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/tennessee-real-estate-tycoons-enjoy-45-million-tax-loophole-while-state-revenues-crater/Content?oid=1199156
“Revenue Department surveys show 2,700 businesses are structured as "family owned non-corporate entities" to take advantage, escaping corporate taxes on roughly $5 billion in property and $500 million in profits.”

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/198998_boats10.html
“Some ultra-rich yacht buyers are expecting to deduct millions from their income tax next year by depreciating their pleasure craft under the provisions of the Bush administration's tax-relief program passed by Congress in 2003. About 500,000 boat owners nationwide can decrease their income-tax bill every year by declaring their vessels a second home. Some others collect healthy deductions from putting their boats into charter arrangements that may skirt the provisions of the tax code. And some corporations take deductions on yachts that seem to stretch the definition of a business resource.”

elliemae says

but rayray, I was quoting you. exactly. without changing a thing. not one little bit. so, if I’m lying, it was a direct quote from you.

Continues to practice Nazi propaganda tactics. At least she's consistent.

from the article:
"Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, (dog Latin for "reduction to Hitler" or "argument to Hitler," respectively) is an ad hominem or ad misericordiam argument, and is an informal fallacy. It is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on something or someone's origin rather than its current meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative esteem from the earlier context. Hence this fallacy fails to examine the claim on its merit."

the problem with this argument is that it uses complex words with too many syallables, and I'm not sure he has anyone around who can explain them to him... oooo, this is too much fun.

can you break it down into smaller words for the rayray?

Here it is October 3, 2010 and the Liberal Give Meter still stands at ZERO.

I think Congress should pass a mandatory voluntary law forcing Liberals to GIVE until it hurts. That seems to be the only way to get Liberals to support the socialism they love so much.
Congress needs to force them to give. LOL

RayAmerica says

Here it is October 3, 2010 and the Liberal Give Meter still stands at ZERO.

In his self-righteous indignation, rayray fails to realize that no one gives a crap about his "give meter."

I still can't figure out why it is that Liberals have to wait for Congress to increase their taxes. If they believe in BIG GOVERNMENT so much, why wait? Why not just use this convenient site
to send in their contribution, i.e. "personal tax?"

https://www.pay.gov/paygov/forms/formInstance.html?nc=1271991815942&agencyFormId=23779454&source=patrick.net