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If you want real change, vote in someone other than a candidate that is part of the mainstream elite. If you want things to stay the same, keep voting for your GOP & Democrat establishment schills that walk lock step to the self-serving policies of the private bankers that make up the Fed.

Can it get any worse.Atleast he is clear on his positions and they generally tend to be on the people's side than corporate/political.
IMO,I think he will have to drop midway..but atleast good to see ppl like hime still live and kicking

Go Ron Go!

That nefarious Clinton! Passing George Bush's NAFTA and then GATT in his first two years over his party's reservations and then sneaking all those trade agreements through that Republican Senate, 1995-2000.

http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N45/gatt.45w.html

Ron Paul said he would not have gone into Pakistan to kill Bin Laden. So I assume you guys who support Ron Paul have no problem with Bin Laden still being alive right now and blowing up more buildings?

HousingWatcher says

Ron Paul said he would not have gone into Pakistan to kill Bin Laden. So I assume you guys who support Ron Paul have no problem with Bin Laden still being alive right now and blowing up more buildings?

Not sending military to Pakistan does not mean not taking care of the problem. The fact that we tried to kill a fly with a rocket is a problem, and both Bush and Obama needed their head examined. We are creating more Bin Ladens by simply over-expanding our military all over middle east.

The longer our military is there, the more suffering in the middle east, the more pissed off muslims will be coming here for revenge.

Ron Paul is advocating the founding philosophy (commerce with all nations, alliance with none). It's just that simple. Its a philosophy this nation certainly needs.

And for the record, here is Ron Paul's career campaign finance history from opensecrets:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00005906&cycle=Career

And top contributors since 1989:

Contributor ↓ Total ↓ Indivs ↓ PACs ↓
US Army $80,206 $80,206 $0
US Navy $60,871 $60,871 $0
US Air Force $57,105 $57,105 $0
Google Inc $54,801 $54,801 $0
Microsoft Corp $50,179 $50,179 $0
Credit Union National Assn $41,986 $250 $41,736
National Assn of Realtors $34,470 $470 $34,000
US Postal Service $31,941 $31,941 $0
Hewlett-Packard $28,868 $28,868 $0
Boeing Co $27,909 $27,909 $0
Lockheed Martin $27,455 $27,455 $0
Cisco Systems $26,257 $26,257 $0
Morton Buildings $26,000 $20,000 $6,000
AT&T Inc $24,230 $21,195 $3,035
DUNN Capital Management $21,600 $21,600 $0
Huffines Communities $21,000 $21,000 $0
American Medical Assn $20,500 $0 $20,500
Verizon Communications $20,444 $20,444 $0
US Dept of Defense $20,148 $20,148 $0
Justice-PAC $20,000 $0 $20,000

Interesting note - the NAR gave him about as much as the Postal service (~30K)!

Ron Paul may be sympathetic to many corporate goals, but he has little history of being under leash. You see a strange dog wandering around town without a collar, do you let him into the playground? Nope. Corporations like only candidates they feel that have some kind of grip on and that will not surprise them. Just like previous times, he will the symbolic outsider candidate.

Vicente says

Corporations like only candidates they feel that have some kind of grip on and that will not surprise them.

Kind of like these guys (opensecrets.org)?

Charles E. Schumer (D)

Contributor ↓ Total ↓ Indivs ↓ PACs ↓
Goldman Sachs $497,340 $464,340 $33,000
Citigroup Inc $447,616 $413,300 $34,316
Morgan Stanley $317,946 $280,500 $37,446
JPMorgan Chase & Co $312,000 $248,000 $64,000
Paul, Weiss et al $295,850 $295,850 $0
Credit Suisse Group $268,494 $233,825 $34,669
UBS AG $253,650 $221,650 $32,000
Bear Stearns $231,350 $214,350 $17,000
Merrill Lynch $226,150 $203,650 $22,500
Lehman Brothers $224,450 $198,950 $25,500
Ernst & Young $221,500 $194,500 $27,000
Schulte, Roth & Zabel $200,100 $200,100 $0
Time Warner $186,800 $159,300 $27,500
Sullivan & Cromwell $172,400 $172,400 $0
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu $169,399 $141,400 $27,999
Kasowitz, Benson et al $165,900 $165,900 $0
Newmark Knight Frank $161,150 $161,150 $0
Metlife Inc $158,499 $117,000 $41,499
Lazard Freres & Co $153,350 $153,350 $0
New York Life Insurance $148,550 $121,550 $27,000

and

John Boehner (R)

AT&T Inc $141,150 $67,300 $73,850
AK Steel $116,125 $43,650 $72,475
FMR Corp $109,250 $71,250 $38,000
United Parcel Service $97,200 $4,500 $92,700
National Assn of Realtors $92,850 $1,500 $91,350
National Auto Dealers Assn $91,100 $0 $91,100
FirstEnergy Corp $83,000 $52,500 $30,500
American Financial Group $80,100 $80,100 $0
Limited Brands $78,650 $29,400 $49,250
American Maritime Officers $78,500 $0 $78,500
American Electric Power $76,750 $33,500 $43,250
American Medical Assn $74,400 $0 $74,400
Reynolds American $73,400 $2,600 $70,800
Associated Builders & Contractors $72,250 $2,500 $69,750
SLM Corp $71,250 $21,375 $49,875
Murray Energy $71,200 $55,400 $15,800
Ernst & Young $70,800 $19,300 $51,500
National Assn of Home Builders $70,750 $5,250 $65,500
American Bankers Assn $70,250 $0 $70,250
Blue Cross/Blue Shield $69,625 $2,500 $67,125

simchaland says

The northern ice cap will be completely melted by 2040 or so. Greenland is soon to thaw after that. Seas will rise. Most of civilization will be under water.

All this by 2040? I'm not going to wait. I'm buying my boathouse now. Thanks for the hot tip.

Bubble Bobble says

Mr. Bin Laden accomplished his goal… to cost the US a trillion bucks…. because of our moronic response to the 911 attacks.

And we continue to keep spending to fight the Bin Laden monster. The CIA claims there is a whopping 200 al Qaeda members wondering around in Afghanistan. No wonder Obama has increased the number of troops there by the tens of thousands.

simchaland says

There is already more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than when the dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Amazing. I guess we'll all end up like the dinosaurs.

simchaland says

The rate of warming is increasing rather than decreasing.

How fast is the rate? It is close to summer and that usually means a warming trend is on its way.

simchaland says

There is no technology that will save us.

And all this time I thought technology was going to save us. Hot tip: sell your tech stocks.

simchaland says

Never fear for life on Earth though. Life on Earth will go on. It’s remarkably resilient. We humans? Not so much.

So I guess if you're not human, you shouldn't have anything to fear?

simchaland says

It’s already too late.

It really is and I'm really getting tired. I think I'll turn in.

I thought Paul held his own pretty well with Chris Matthews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBbV7mURP0I

I strongly disagree with him on a lot of stuff, and think he'd be a disaster for the country, but I've got to hand it to him for staying true to the libertarian narrative.

BTW, in this piece, he also demonstrates the libertarian tendency to ignore reality, and stick with the theory. At 5:00 he's explaining how if not allowing blacks into your place of business were legal, nobody would do it, and they would all go out of business. Never mind the fact that business excluding blacks were pervasive and had been for 100 years since the end of slavery.

terriDeaner says

And for the record, here is Ron Paul’s career campaign finance history from opensecrets:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00005906&cycle=Career

And top contributors since 1989:

I guess those donations really mean something, given that he came right out and announced he takes a "strict prostitutional position" on government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h97U4Bxtk3Q

(right at the beginning)