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Mortgage rate Issue


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2011 Aug 9, 6:00am   2,410 views  14 comments

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Hello all. I just applied for a Mortgage loan with Wells Fargo bank as am planning to buy a house in late December or early January. I will be putting 20% down on a house that is 300k. My question to all you is this If I don't like the term of the loan am hoping to get 4.25% rate based on 719 credit score if its possible. If I go to another lender to get a better rate will that effect my credit. Also is it possible to get 4.25 based on my credit, I make $ 44.000 a year income and am sinlge.

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1   1st time buyer 1st time poster   2011 Aug 9, 6:12am  

I'd say you're buying too much house for that annual salary. Best to stick with a price range topping out at 3x annual salary. Wait a year or so, this house may yet come into your range.

2   lurking   2011 Aug 9, 6:25am  

Do all of your shopping for the best interest rates at about the same time and it's not that big a deal. Why are you applying for a loan five months in advance? I have purchased dozens of homes, most with cash, some were financed and it's my opinion that you're wasting your time to go through this excersice this far out. Rates change, the pre approval letter isn't good that far out, etc. Rates literally change by the minute so when you do lock in 30 days before you purchase, you may find that an hour later or the next day that the rate has either gone up or down. This sounds like this is your first home purchase. Slow down and check with a large, good, reputable mortgage broker that can give you the all the rates and companies for comparison. I actually was able to get a better Wells Fargo rate through a broker and Wells was a good lender/servicer.

Here is what FICO tells you about mortgage shopping and your credit score.

Fallacy: My score will drop if I apply for new credit.
Fact: If it does, it probably won't drop much. If you apply for several credit cards within a short period of time, multiple requests for your credit report information (called “inquiries”) will appear on your report. Looking for new credit can equate with higher risk, but most credit scores are not affected by multiple inquiries from auto or mortgage lenders within a short period of time. Typically, these are treated as a single inquiry and will have little impact on the credit score.

3   Truthplease   2011 Aug 9, 7:02am  

My advice, that price is way above your salary range. You might want to wait until something comes into your price range or you save enough money to comfortably get into a house you want while still maintaining an emergency fund.

I can give you my own advice on this. I think this price is going to strap you down into a house and suck the life out of you. At 44K a year there is no way you will even be able to afford living your life. You will have a house payment that will eat up half your income. I wouldn't commit to anything over 28 percent of my take home pay for monthly homeownership payments. I live at a homeownership cost of 20 percent of my take home pay and it feels very comfortable. I have very little stress in my life and a solid emergency fund.

Don't buy that much house; live your life.

If you are stressed about interest rates rising, don’t be. I believe any rise in interest rates will only lower housing prices because it will lower demand. That’s what I told my realtor in 2009 when they were trying to get me to purchase a house at 50 percent of my income and much more space than I needed. The agent said “interest rates will go up soon.” I said “so what, that means the prices will have to drop.” The agent didn’t understand the economics.

4   RonRon   2011 Aug 9, 7:10am  

I suggest you check on the Google's rate and shop around, also watch the rate on Zillow and the news + the market when locking; do ask for no point no fee, take it slow and bargain for better rate. Broker is a good option for good rate. Most of the big banks will service you later if you get loan from BROKER.
I got an okay rate with X company that I don't even remember now, and now I'm on Wells Fargo.

For the house hunt! GOOD LUCK & HAVE FUN!

5   CashOffer   2011 Aug 9, 7:21am  

Rate is low for a while, take your time!!

6   corntrollio   2011 Aug 9, 8:06am  

You're asking if applying for another loan will lower your credit? lurking answered that question.

My additional thoughts would be:
Why bother hyperoptimizing your credit score in this manner? Additional credit inquiries can lower your credit, but only to a point. Furthermore, making 5 mortgage inquiries within a short period still counts as 1 inquiry because it's expected that you'll shop around the loan.

What you should instead be thinking about is whether buying this house is a good decision. You didn't even tell us the rate that Wells Fargo offered you. How could we possibly tell you whether you will qualify for a 4.25% loan with the extremely limited amount of information you gave us.

7   bubblesitter   2011 Aug 9, 9:03am  

That is like borrowing 5.5 times your annual income. I think you reconsider that.

8   FortWayne   2011 Aug 9, 10:04am  

i don't think thats a good scenario. you should really try to do 3x income at your range.

when interest rates go up and they will, you'll be really screwed since your property will drop in value a lot and what you pay will not be negotiable down.

your credit shouldn't be affected by you getting another opinion. your credit is based on your ability to pay the money back, it does not go down with a few checks like that. lowest i've seen interest rate lately is 3.25%. They advertise it on KFI all the time.

9   Done!   2011 Aug 9, 10:30am  

Dan80 says

I will be putting 20% down on a house that is 300k. My question to all you is this If I don't like the term of the loan am hoping to get 4.25% rate based on 719 credit score if its possible. If I go to another lender to get a better rate will that effect my credit. Also is it possible to get 4.25 based on my credit, I make $ 44.000 a year income and am sinlge.

Of course you're free too, though your mortgage broker will probably drag his feet, and string you along. Since the finance reform, they wait keep you on the hook for as much as three weeks or more, before you'll get a legitimate GFE. You have a few weeks to shop, after that, the Reporting agencies, ding you for all of the other credit inquiries. Then lenders wont look at you favorably, with the lapsed time. It will appear that the broker did a lot of work for you then you bailed.

My broker was dragging his feet when the rates were at 4.75, he was tyring to time the rates to rebound to 5.00 or more. But with those three weeks, the rate went to 4.25. He then sent me the GFE at 4.75. Like he was doing me a solid, I told him I was going to walk he went down to 4.50 so I went with it. He told me, 4.25 was prime with optimal credit, and 20% down. This was after the broker talked me into only putting 3.5 down because that was all that was required.

My suggestion to you, is to get all of your mortgage rate shopping done at the same time. Hit up as many lenders as you want up front, then wait from them to get back. If you deal with just one and ride his long train of excuses out, you'll end up in position of walking away and having to wait a few months, and starting the whole process over.

Because they are going to want a ton of paper work from you.
You should print up all of your tax returns, and three months of Pay Stubs, and make multiple copies one for each lender you plan on applying to.

But definitely don't just put your eggs in just that one basket, and wait for them before your next move. They are masters at out waiting you.

10   Done!   2011 Aug 9, 10:32am  

Dan80 says

I make $ 44.000 a year income and am sinlge.

And you want to borrow 300K...

Get back in line!!!!

11   Dan80   2011 Aug 9, 12:32pm  

Hey guys I appreciate all the feed back . I am new here and I just learn so much from all your replies. I will take all those good point but now after reading all this am having a second thought. I will think it over again.
Thanks all.

12   swebb   2011 Aug 9, 1:27pm  

Dan80 says

ey guys I appreciate all the feed back . I am new here and I just learn so much from all your replies. I will take all those good point but now after reading all this

Clearly the high debt to income ratio raised some eyebrows around here...the main thing that I noticed was that you evidently have $60k+ saved, but your credit score is only 719. 719 isn't a bad score by any stretch, but for someone who has been able to save $60k on a $44k income I would have expected a 800+ credit score....just my observation.

13   vain   2011 Aug 9, 3:11pm  

I'm comfortably borrowing $200k with around your income. Just watch out for property tax.

14   Dan80   2011 Aug 10, 6:57pm  

swebb says

Clearly the high debt to income ratio raised some eyebrows around here...the main thing that I noticed was that you evidently have $60k+ saved, but your credit score is only 719. 719 isn't a bad score by any stretch, but for someone who has been able to save $60k on a $44k income I would have expected a 800+ credit score....just my observation.

I was able to save that much because I was making more in my previous job and I am not married nor do I have kids. The low credit score was due to some late payment and dispute about some bills that wasn't resolved in my favor.

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