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So they guessed and got a 50/50 coin toss flip correct. And now you feel compelled to post their future predictions.
So they guessed and got a 50/50 coin toss flip correct.
wtf? ECRI has consistent track record in predictions going back to 87 or earlier.
I don't know much about Hussman's prediction history (may be he is a conservative investor), but he's looking at the data and making a case with probability. He's not saying we are GOING TO have a recession, he's saying the likelihood is very high.
If the indicators he's looking at changes, then his portfolio allocation will change accordingly. He has a fiduciary duty to do so.
How is this same as flipping a coin?
He predicts the recession every year !
Any proof or is this just a blind assertion?
I guess the gist of it is: Who cares? We're in a recession right now!
We're in a recession right now!
LOL. What's your definition of a recession?
For most people, it's negative GDP. How about you?
"Guessing what the stock market will do is just that. Guessing." - edvard2, Patrick.net user.
There are at least two institutions to my knowledge who made a great call predicting the 2008 recession in November 2007.
One is ECRI - Economic Cycle Research Institute.: http://www.businesscycle.com
See this: http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2011/11/ecri-the-us-is-still-headed-for-recession.html
Ed Harrison's commentary:
Note Achuthan’s derision for the precision of economic modelling. He thinks the consensus has it wrong because of this focus. When Achuthan talks about forward-looking indicator ‘contagion’ it sounds to me like he is speaking to a fat tail amplifier type of effect, meaning that a confluence of multiple downward-pointing indicators amplifies the trajectory in that direction. Models do not capture this. I especially liked his comments about the confluence of downside forward indicators and modeling. What he was saying to my ears is that you get multiple poor forward data streams coming together and amplifying the effect of the individual streams. A sum is greater than the parts in effect both on the upside and on the downside. Powerful stuff.
ECRI already made a recession call in Oct 2011. Based on their proprietary leading indicators (of which they publish only their Weekly Leading Index for free), they predict that a recession is imminent within 9 to 12 months.
The other is Hussman Funds.
See this 2007 link, where a recession call was made by John Hussman: http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc071112.htm
Here's the latest article from Hussman: http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc120116.htm
Recession evidence is best measured by capturing a syndrome of conditions that reflects broad deterioration in both real activity and financial indicators .
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