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1: Sorry, but the full speech is widely available online and elsewhere. All it takes is to watch that clip in its entirety and it wouldn't matter if you're a liberal or conservative: The words were taken out of context. It was a sad case of Republicans making something out of nothing. Again- doesn't really matter because taking something out of context versus actually saying it entirely are two totally different things and voters WILL remember that.

2: What Romney said has gotten a lot of attention and hardly any of it has been positive.Nuff' said..

3: ObamaCare doesn't have anything to do with wealth distribution. I know this idea about redistribution seems to be very popular with those on the right. yet they sat back and said nothing when Reaganomics was sold to them. They also said nothing when Bush did much the same thing in the form of inappropriate tax cuts.If the core of the argument is that government should stay out of economics, then Republicans have meddled in economic affairs by introducing various taxation schemes based on economic idealogical theories that don't work. Then they try to do it again and again. That's the very definition of government involvement. Oh- and BTW, Reagan actually raised taxes a total of 11 times during his Presidency. How come we never hear those on the right complain about that?

4: Here's another misconception amongst those on the right: Democrats must surely mean that they're anti-energy. Believe it or not the US stands to be the single largest producer of natural gas in the world and quite possibly the largest oil producer in the world within a few years. In fact, the US is having an absolute energy boom as we speak. Blaming Obama for higher energy prices is sort of silly.

VOTE YES ON "O"

Honest Abe says

Roo - rather than a fight, I'd rather point out the failed mentality of big, intrusive, collective government.

"If nothing is to your credit, nothing is your fault. its all collective achievement...at first, followed by collective failure" The Peoples Blog.

Obama not only wants to redistribute other peoples money, but also other peoples achievement.

Don't kid yourself. Republicans believe in big, intrusive government too.

As for redistribution of wealth, well, our country as a whole has historically done much better when wealthy pay more taxes. Without redistribution of wealth we'd become an extreme Plutocracy. This is not a good thing.

So what? Romney's tax returns are 'old news', yet the left never quits harping on this subject, in spite of the fact Romney has complied with the law.

edvard2 says

This is again- old news.

There is no sin greater in a presidential race than telling the truth. Romney is being excoriated for accurately describing the situation in America today. Here are the stats:

*36% of all Americans of working age are either not working or looking for work.

And therein lies the problem. The left and mainstream media can't handle the truth.

Or to put it in another way: The truth hurts...but only if you're on the wrong side of the truth.

Honest Abe says

Or to put it in another way: The truth hurts...but only if you're on the wrong side of the truth.

Exactly. Its good that most American really see more of what Romney is all about. hence why the overwhelming reaction to what he said was negative. Nuff' said...

Honest Abe says

Or to put it in another way: The truth hurts...but only if you're on the wrong side of the truth.

SoftShell says

So what? Romney's tax returns are 'old news', yet the left never quits harping on this subject, in spite of the fact Romney has complied with the law.

edvard2 says

This is again- old news.

Dennis, nobody is talking about Romney's taxes anymore. He's done a great job of changing the subject!

SoftShell says

There is no sin greater in a presidential race than telling the truth. Romney is being excoriated for accurately describing the situation in America today. Here are the stats:

*49% of all Americans pay no fed income tax

*47% receive a check from the government of which more than half are means tested welfare checks (Medicaid, welfare, food stamps, etc.)

*36% of all Americans of working age are either not working or looking for work.

And therein lies the problem. The left and mainstream media can't handle the truth.

America has one of if not the hardest working population of any country. But, like every country, we have our poor. We can argue about policy and how the right one may reduce the number of poor by small percentages, but the reality is all nations have this problem. This is unavoidable.

The choice we need to make is whether we are going to take care of our poor or let them move to shanty towns and die on the street.

We are in this together. You may think "I don't need help - never will. I can survive just fine all by myself, thank you." But that's just you ego talking. You can't survive by yourself.

You need help.

funny...adam and eve seemed to do alright without any help.....6 billion and counting...

rooemoore says

You can't survive by yourself.

You need help.

SoftShell says

funny...adam and eve seemed to do alright without any help.....6 billion and counting...

rooemoore says

You can't survive by yourself.

You need help.

Ever heard of original sin? If someone had stopped Eve, we'd all be living in paradise.

You really shouldn't refer to the bible if you've never read it, Dennis.

I don't know what's going on with you and this 'dennis' thing....but it's starting to freak me out.....

rooemoore says

You really shouldn't refer to the bible if you've never read it, Dennis.

Nice dodge....
you've said nothing to mitigate the fact that adam and eve did not need help, so neither should we....

rooemoore says

Ever heard of original sin? If someone had stopped Eve, we'd all be living in paradise.

SoftShell says

Nice dodge....

you've said nothing to mitigate the fact that adam and eve did not need help, so neither should we....

rooemoore says

Ever heard of original sin? If someone had stopped Eve, we'd all be living in paradise.

Yeah, but Santa Clause needs his elves!.

Two GOP Senate candidates condemn Romney's 47% comments

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/18/two-gop-senate-candidates-condemn-romneys-47-comments/

Fact-checking Romney's "47 percent" comment

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57515033-503544/fact-checking-romneys-47-percent-comment/

SoftShell says

Nice dodge....
you've said nothing to mitigate the fact that adam and eve did not need help, so neither should we....

Your argument is based on Adam and Eve?

Bigsby says

SoftShell says

Nice dodge....

you've said nothing to mitigate the fact that adam and eve did not need help, so neither should we....

Your argument is based on Adam and Eve?

It's Shrek, or Ruki or (real name) Dennis. What do you expect?

Your argument is based on the majority of news outlet reporting....
The majority of mankind believes in Adam and Eve.....
Majority rules.

Bigsby says

Your argument is based on Adam and Eve?

It's "Softshell"......
what's your problem??

rooemoore says

It's Shrek, or Ruki or (real name) Dennis. What do you expect?

So Softshell is Ruki/Shrek?

Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Finestein, obAmma, the whole liberal cabal...are all hypocrites. I believe the cure for their hypocrisy should be a daily administration of water-boarding until all symptoms disappear.

Honest Abe says

Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Finestein, obAmma, the whole liberal cabal...are all hypocrites. I believe the cure for their hypocrisy should be a daily administration of water-boarding until all symptoms disappear.

You better stop you are posting things the brainwashed don't want to hear or accept. They will just spin each time everything you are putting out. They are famous for it.

Tecumcari says

It was a masterful rope-a-dope that liberals fell for completely.

LOL what a GREAT line. Of course, they fell for it simpletons fall for anything they believe supports their crying, ranting and raving.

nonono....
i'm pure crustacean...

Politicofact says

So Softshell is Ruki/Shrek?

SoftShell says

nonono....

i'm pure crustacean...

Politicofact says

So Softshell is Ruki/Shrek?

Ruki, Softshel, Shrek, leave already, nobody likes you.

zzyzzx says

If the homeowner isn't insulted by your offer...you didn't bid low enough!!!

Inauguration day, Obama was losing 750k jobs a month and he HAD NO POLICIES

WTF does that tell you? Fool.

You ignorant repukes couldn't care less about facts and America.

The only conclusion I can draw is that your just racist and hate black people, because I promise you. you didn't care this much about Bush's shameless 8yrs in office.

Call it Crazy says

Guess what...

you must be confusing him with Bush, you know the white one,

whose policies took us into Iraq and weapons of mass distraction/destruction that did not exist. Even now, you FOOLISH FOXITES STILL BELIEVE IT! Fools

As you are here telling us what to do, I will tell you.

You really should clean the shit out of your own eyes and remove your own nose from you asshole. Then take you head of out the sand and learn to read.

Damn repukes. Fools , the lot of 'em.

I repeat for you foxites.....

There were NO WMD's , NONE.

Bush's economy created the worst recession/depression in all the worlds history. His polices destroyed the world of finance and broke our credit rating.

Bush costs us..

Cost US over 10 Million jobs
Cost US $10 Trillion in unfunded obligations.
Cost US $2.3 TRILLION in LOSSES unaccounted for!

Did you forget this?

9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon

http://www.youtube.com/embed/xU4GdHLUHwU

You DIDN'T THINK THAT.

So in your puny mind "being liked" is what this forum is all about?
How long have you had your inferiority complex??

Politicofact says

SoftShell says

nonono....

i'm pure crustacean...

Politicofact says

So Softshell is Ruki/Shrek?

Ruki, Softshel, Shrek, leave already, nobody likes you.

Ohhhhh, that's funny! What a smart cookie you are....you are!!
you should run for president, or attorney general! You should!! You should!!

Politicofact says

You DIDN'T THINK THAT.

Politicofact says

I promise you. you didn't care this much about Bush's shameless 8yrs in office.

Actually I can think of plenty that Bush 2 did that I don't like.

All of the partisan bull crap? The Republicans and Bush did it all! The Democrats and Obama did it all! We're screwed because both parties did it sprinkled by bad decicions by the Federal Reserve. Oh and let's not forget all the fraud from Wall Street, and the average citizens who are abusing the system with fraud and frivolous litigation. We have a greed and morality problem in this country because many have abandoned their faith in God and replaced it with personal greed and deception. JFK had it right! "Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country."

Politicofact says

you didn't care this much about Bush's shameless 8yrs in office.

Bush at least pulled the plug on the $5 a gallon gas experiment.
Obama the collective American Liberal is depressed that gas isn't $10.00 a gallon. They live in a campus fantasy life, where the clouds are made of cotton candy and bicycles can take you around the world and back, and they work down stairs in a green factory by day, and live up stairs in a solar powered snow globe cocoon.

The rest of us morons are making the Oil and Gas gougers filthy rich because we've children to feed, in spite of being fat lazy and stupid.

Zeke1964 says

We have a greed and morality problem in this country because many have abandoned their faith in God and replaced it with personal greed and deception.

Come on you know this country is far better off, with Liberal Atheist Gays telling everyone how to live, than Rabis, Clerics and Pastors.

Oh if it aint the Gazilionare self loather making his rounds convincing everyone else should feel like shit because Obama sucks so bad.
What are you Warren Buffets zit?

LOL..
CaptainShuddup says

What are you Warren Buffets zit?

CaptainShuddup says

Come on you know this country is far better off, with Liberal Atheist Gays telling everyone how to live, than Rabis, Clerics and Pastors.

Well, I have to admit I agree with you here. When I have to choose between a bunch of weird dudes who live in a fantasy world of young boys and homo sex vs liberal atheist gays, well, the choice is obvious.

SoftShell says

LOL..

CaptainShuddup says

What are you Warren Buffets zit?

Yeah, that was a real zinger!