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Reagan was Great president.


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2013 May 16, 6:27am   16,047 views  71 comments

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He kept us out of made up wars.

According to the Democrat logic, that they use for talking points, when asked to name one positive thing Obama has done.
It's nice to see them finally giving the gipper some credit where credit is due. At least Ronnie, didn't blame Carter for everything.

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48   coriacci1   2013 May 18, 4:08am  

LAST FOND MEMORIES

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
PRESS BRIEFING BY LARRY SPEAKES
October 15, 1982
The Briefing Room
12:45pm EDT

Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement - the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?

MR. SPEAKES: What's AIDS?

Q: Over a third of them have died. It's known as "gay plague." (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it's a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it?

MR. SPEAKES: I don't have it. Do you? (Laughter.)

Q: No, I don't.

MR. SPEAKES: You didn't answer my question.

Q: Well, I just wondered, does the President -

MR. SPEAKES: How do you know? (Laughter.)

Q: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke?

MR. SPEAKES: No, I don't know anything about it, Lester.

Q: Does the President, does anyone in the White House know about this epidemic, Larry?

MR. SPEAKES: I don't think so. I don't think there's been any -

Q: Nobody knows?

MR. SPEAKES: There has been no personal experience here, Lester.

Q: No, I mean, I thought you were keeping -

MR. SPEAKES: I checked thoroughly with Dr. Ruge this morning and he's had no - (laughter) - no patients suffering from AIDS or whatever it is.

Q: The President doesn't have gay plague, is that what you're saying or what?

MR. SPEAKES: No, I didn't say that.

Q: Didn't say that?

MR. SPEAKES: I thought I heard you on the State Department over there. Why didn't you stay there? (Laughter.)

Q: Because I love you Larry, that's why (Laughter.)

MR. SPEAKES: Oh I see. Just don't put it in those terms, Lester. (Laughter.)

Q: Oh, I retract that.

MR. SPEAKES: I hope so.

Q: It's too late.

49   coriacci1   2013 May 18, 4:14am  

February 28, 2013

Reagan aided Guatemalan genocide

Robert Parry, Consortium News. Soon after taking office in 1981, President Ronald Reagan’s national security team agreed to supply military aid to the brutal right-wing regime in Guatemala to pursue the goal of exterminating not only “Marxist guerrillas” but their “civilian support mechanisms,” according to a newly disclosed document from the National Archives.

Over the next several years, the military assistance from the Reagan administration helped the Guatemalan army do just that, engaging in the slaughter of some 100,000 people, including what a truth commission deemed genocide against the Mayan Indians in the northern highlands.

Vernon Walters, a former deputy director of the CIA who served as President Ronald Reagan’s ambassador-at-large in the early 1980s.
Recently discovered documents at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, also reveal that Reagan’s White House was reaching out to Israel in a scheme to circumvent congressional restrictions on military equipment for the Guatemalan military.

In 1983, national security aide Oliver North (who later became a central figure in the Iran-Contra scandal) reported in a memo that Reagan’s Deputy National Security Advisor Robert McFarlane (another key Iran-Contra figure) was approaching Israel over how to deliver 10 UH-1H helicopters to Guatemala to give the army greater mobility in its counterinsurgency war.

According to these documents that I found at the Reagan library – and other records declassified in the late 1990s – it’s also clear that Reagan and his administration were well aware of the butchery underway in Guatemala and elsewhere in Central America.

50   coriacci1   2013 May 18, 4:19am  

BOTTOM LINE
The true costs of Reagan
and extreme capitalism
by Sam Smith
Next year will mark the 25th anniversary of that remarkable moment when this country began to turn its back on values that had sustained it throughout its first two centuries - values that included balancing power and wealth with concern for, cooperation with, and compassion towards others in the community we called America. In their place came a psychotic faith in the ubiquitous virtue of the market, a faith almost creationist in its absence of objective foundation, intellectually barren when not actually dishonest, and as monomaniacal as the creed of the religious fundamentalist. Every other aspect of existence - religion, family, morality, creativity, politics, community, tradition, ethnicity - was declared merely a byproduct of the marketplace.

True, America had always been a highly commercial culture. And it had gone through periods - such as that of the 19th robber barons or the 1920s - when its better nature was submerged or perverted by a corrupt culture of greed, but in these prior instances it had been generally clear who the true beneficiaries were and there had been little effort, even by these lucky few, to pretend, for example, that the luck of the Goulds, Carnegies or Rockefellers were but a tax cut away from the rest the country.

With Reagan, however, that all changed. For the first time in our history, the self-serving delusions of the privileged few became the standard for the whole nation, propagated in politics, on campuses and in the media. Even liberals would begin to adopt the language of extreme capitalism. Few asked for the evidence to support its thesis or examine critically its deceptive logic.

To give some sense of the cultural eruption that had occurred, consider some remarks from the 1960s. The first were delivered in 1964 by Lyndon Johnson:

http://prorev.com/extreme.htm

51   Dan8267   2013 May 18, 4:27am  

thomaswong.1986 says

as long as you dont mention all the social programs which failed it

Name specific social program failures and their costs. Let's see if it adds up to the cost of the Vietnam War.

How much did the Vietnam War cost? In direct military spending, alone, Vietnam cost the U.S. $784 billion in fiscal year 2011 dollars. That does not include the cost of human life, the lost labor during and after the war (due to death), or the vast majority of the health care costs for veterans, which will peak around 2020-2025.

We're still paying for the Vietnam War every time we treat a Vietnam vet, and it's going to get a lot more expensive over the next decade. ...unless, of course, you cut all veteran social programs. Do you want to do that?

52   Dan8267   2013 May 18, 4:36am  

thomaswong.1986 says

Since when was Elizabeth Warren any expert at anything.. read here bio!

a one sided social activist.. thats it! what great company or industry did she create..

shit.. she is another idiot found in the teachers lounge from Obama University.

Warren was a Harvard Law School professor specializing in bankruptcy law after being a practicing lawyer for years. That means her credentials are way the fuck better than yours.

Nor have you done anything to discredit her work. I guess trying to do that would take too much reading.

53   Dan8267   2013 May 18, 4:41am  

thomaswong.1986 says

Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did..

Donald Regan would sell your ass into slavery to profit for himself if he could get away with it. I guarantee you that he never gave a rat's ass if you lived or die.

54   coriacci1   2013 May 18, 4:45am  

SUN NOV 23, 2008 AT 08:44 AM PST

The Last Great President: John Kennedy and why.
byFreeSocietyFollow
116 Comments / 116 New

President John Kennedy was the last truly courageous and great U.S. President that this Nation had.

Kennedy a serious government reformist, with a deep understanding of American Revolutionary History.

Kennedy fought the corrupt Federal Reserve profiteers, and their monopolistic control over our Nation's money supply, in the tradition of our Founding Fathers, who had revolted against the similar Bank of England private Central Bank scheme, and he, like President Lincoln, printed debt-free, interest-free, "United States Notes" in 1963 (circumventing the debt generating "Federal Reserve Notes" system), which is the way that our Country was intended to work -- instead of the debt generating, Federal Reserve system that steals from taxpayers to enrich the global Banking elites ( the Rothchilds, J.P. Morgan, the Rockefellers, Chase, etc.)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/23/665326/-The-Last-Great-President-John-Kennedy-and-why#

55   JodyChunder   2013 May 18, 9:05am  

Dan8267 says

How much did the Vietnam War cost?

Yeah, but...we did get several good war flicks out of it...

56   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 18, 9:54am  

Dan8267 says

thomaswong.1986 says

Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did..

Donald Regan would sell your ass into slavery to profit for himself if he could get away with it. I guarantee you that he never gave a rat's ass if you lived or die.

No ... i dont expect you to understand leadership.

57   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 18, 9:55am  

Dan8267 says

Warren was a Harvard Law School professor specializing in bankruptcy law after being a practicing lawyer for years. That means her credentials are way the fuck better than yours.

thats it.. a bankruptcy lawyer! fuck.. my pinky has more experience than her.

58   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 18, 10:00am  

gbenson says

Reagan wasn't crazy enough to get the Republican nomination in today's political climate

As i have asked ... where was your guy at ? show everyone you have a better candidate.

59   New Renter   2013 May 18, 1:39pm  

JodyChunder says

Yeah, but...we did get several good war flicks out of it...

We got way more mileage in that regard out of WWII. Hell there are STILL mega million dollar films begin made on that war.

60   New Renter   2013 May 18, 1:39pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

Warren was a Harvard Law School professor specializing in bankruptcy law after being a practicing lawyer for years. That means her credentials are way the fuck better than yours.

thats it.. a bankruptcy lawyer! fuck.. my pinky has more experience than her.

Somehow I doubt that very much.

61   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 18, 1:55pm  

New Renter says

We got way more mileage in that regard out of WWII. Hell there are STILL mega million dollar films begin made on that war.

Neighboring nations became far more stronger and democratic after Saigon fell.

The Communist regime in Vietnam became isolated and the faith in Socialism crumbled even among their own citizens as many left for over decade. More over Vietnamese saw their own nation as being far more poor and corrupt with no opportunity compared to capitalist South Korea, Singapore, or Thailand which saw a huge boom as an industrial power.

Yes, many Vietnamese see South Korea what they too could have been. Ask anyone of them who migrated here. Left wing Hollywood keeps spinning and milking the war.. as they see it ... the reality today is much different.

62   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 18, 2:03pm  

New Renter says

Somehow I doubt that very much.

I seen her talk many times.. Christ! the woman can nag you to death...
While my pinky has lots of experience.. it doesnt have a NAG factor ... LOL!

And thats what she does.. a NAG not a doer.. let her run an real business in a
competitive industry..

Yea.. she is also an advocate of free loaders...

"She helped to draft the commission's report and worked for several years to oppose legislation intended to severely restrict the right of consumers to file for bankruptcy. Warren and others opposing the legislation were not successful; in 2005 Congress passed the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005."

63   New Renter   2013 May 18, 5:17pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

New Renter says

We got way more mileage in that regard out of WWII. Hell there are STILL mega million dollar films begin made on that war.

Neighboring nations became far more stronger and democratic after Saigon fell.

The Communist regime in Vietnam became isolated and the faith in Socialism crumbled even among their own citizens as many left for over decade. More over Vietnamese saw their own nation as being far more poor and corrupt with no opportunity compared to capitalist South Korea, Singapore, or Thailand which saw a huge boom as an industrial power.

Yes, many Vietnamese see South Korea what they too could have been. Ask anyone of them who migrated here. Left wing Hollywood keeps spinning and milking the war.. as they see it ... the reality today is much different.

Yes, Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge dream team were a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast Asia.

64   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 19, 12:45pm  

New Renter says

Yes, Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge dream team were a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast Asia.

You live in SJ.. so walk down to little Saigon and ask someone..

65   New Renter   2013 May 19, 1:57pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

New Renter says

Yes, Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge dream team were a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast Asia.

You live in SJ.. so walk down to little Saigon and ask someone..

Ask what? If Khmer Rouge was a beacon on the hill for democracy?
The Khmer Rouge period (1975–1979) refers to the rule of Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Khieu Samphan and the Khmer Rouge Communist party over Cambodia, which the Khmer Rouge renamed as Democratic Kampuchea.

The four-year period cost approximately 2 million lives through the combined result of political executions, starvation, and forced labor.[1][2] Due to the large numbers, the deaths during the rule of the Khmer Rouge are often considered a genocide, and commonly known as the Cambodian Holocaust or Cambodian Genocide. The Khmer Rouge took power at the end of the Cambodian Civil War and were toppled with the invasion of Cambodia by neighbour and former ally Vietnam in the Cambodian–Vietnamese War, which left Cambodia under Vietnamese occupation for over a decade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge_rule_of_Cambodia

With a name like "Democratic Kampuchea" it must have indeed been a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast asia.

66   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 19, 2:40pm  

New Renter says

Ask what? If Khmer Rouge was a beacon on the hill for democracy?

The Khmer Rouge period (1975–1979) refers to the rule of Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Khieu Samphan and the Khmer Rouge Communist party over Cambodia, which the Khmer Rouge renamed as Democratic Kampuchea.

Cambodia is another failed communist nation.. I never mentioned Cambodia.. as I stated, Thailand, Singapore, and South Korea did become successful. The communist nations become a killing field.

67   New Renter   2013 May 21, 2:20am  

thomaswong.1986 says

New Renter says

Ask what? If Khmer Rouge was a beacon on the hill for democracy?

The Khmer Rouge period (1975–1979) refers to the rule of Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Khieu Samphan and the Khmer Rouge Communist party over Cambodia, which the Khmer Rouge renamed as Democratic Kampuchea.

Cambodia is another failed communist nation.. I never mentioned Cambodia.. as I stated, Thailand, Singapore, and South Korea did become successful. The communist nations become a killing field.

Understood. I was merely pointing out the neighboring countries which share a border with Vietnam - Cambodia, Laos and China did not "became far more stronger and democratic after Saigon fell".

68   Nobody   2013 May 21, 2:29am  

Reagan was a great president. He knew how stupid majority of the middle class people were to believe in trickle down economy. So we should have a flourishing middle class after more than 20 years.

69   Dan8267   2013 May 21, 2:48am  

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

thomaswong.1986 says

Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did..

Donald Regan would sell your ass into slavery to profit for himself if he could get away with it. I guarantee you that he never gave a rat's ass if you lived or die.

No ... i dont expect you to understand leadership.

The opinion of someone who is pro-torture and for the killing of innocent children in Afghanistan means absolutely nothing to me or to anyone with intelligence or a moral backbone.

70   FortWayne   2013 May 21, 10:00am  

Wasn't me. Patrick emails dislikes, so check your email.

curious2 says

FortWayne says

There is a line a conservative man will not cross. That line starts at Frank Sinatra.

LOL - I had been wondering who Disliked all the comments about Frank Sinatra, and why. Fair enough. That famous 1938 mugshot is a personal favorite, but probably not how he wanted to be remembered. RIP, Old Blue Eyes; today's youngins hardly knew ye.

71   thomaswong.1986   2013 May 21, 10:39am  

Dan8267 says

The opinion of someone who is pro-torture and for the killing of innocent children in Afghanistan means absolutely nothing to me or to anyone with intelligence or a moral backbone.

LOL! sounds like a pro Al-Qaeda statement to me. Of course we killed lots of innocent civilians as we bombed Germany and Japan. And so did they.. You rather see dead Americans first ?

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