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edvard2 says

I see the various fake grass roots, corporate sponsored movements and the right wing entertainment and misinformation machine has done its job well.

Are you calling me a liar?

CaptainShuddup says

rooemoore says

And yet they will blame Obama?

Where does the buck stop?

It's that motherfucker's vision!!!

Not Rick Scotts!

Holy cow. Calm down.

I wonder if John Graham agrees with your posts. If not, he may take issue with you using his work as your avatar.

sbh says

And yet, according to Republican lore, Cap's mom is just another taker, like the rest of the red southern states, taking, taking and thumping the Bible, that primitive blog.

I rest my case.

"She lives on a fixed income of $1200 a month in Social Security. She has voted all her life as a Democrat, because it's been the Democrats todate that have made damn sure that Seniors would be provided for their golden years."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

What a profoundly ignorant statement.

The Social Security Trust Fund was put into the general fund in the 1960's under a Democratic congress. This means that all the excess money from it was "invested" in Treasury Bonds - i.e. spent, and replaced with a piece of paper that says "The government owes you money, thanks for the 2 trillion dollars, we really promise to pay it back, with a tiny amount of interest".

The boomers are the people that railed against the Vietnam war and now wants to turn the Middle East to glass. They're the group that were dropping acid in the 1960's and doing lines of coke in the 1980s which now have ensured mandatory federal sentencing for the younger generation.

And they haven't paid a bit of attention to civil responsibility, which is why we have the NDAA as law, why we're in several wars in the Middle East, and are threatening to enter 2 more.

Nixon was forced to resign over a break in. Bush lied us into a war in Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist, Obama has ended 5th amendment rights, and has continued everything Bush started.

And this group things they deserve to retire. It is to laugh.

The Constitution died under their watch, in fact, they are the ones burying it. Look at who is running congress today. it's not Generation X, it's not the Silent Generation. It's them.

Richard Wicks says

And this group things they deserve to retire. It is to laugh.

I'll do the finnin' around here, moron.

CaptainShuddup says

That shit don't work with old folks, they don't play the blame game.

Don't trust anybody over 30.

“Keep your government hands off my Medicare.”

As usual, you have this all wrong, Capitano.

The Republican controlled Florida House has rejected the Medicaid expansion provision of Obamacare.

Scott has actually publicly claimed he would not "deny 1 milion Floridians this coverage."

Studies of this actually show that increases spending on health care for senior's does not improve outcomes over the population of seniors. Who knew.

That is little comfort if your mom is one of the sick ones, however. We are a vain species, fearful of death, that will do anything we can to prolong life.

Florida was paying for her prescription premium coverage, now they will not. Pony up sonny if you don't like it.

But if you want to send the bill to someone, send it to the Republican legislators.

My own Mother is a lifelong Republican, not because she is politically savvy and studied ideology and the issues; but because my Dad was Republican.

It amazes me, listening to her take strong stands on issues, the mitochondrial DNA of which trace directly back to Fox and Limbaugh talking points though she strongly denies listening to these. To a one, she takes whichever side of EVERY issue that plays into the game of the neocon oligarchs, and directly against her and her family's interests.

She is a "Keep your government hands off my medicare" Republican and proud of it. She thinks the healthcare system was fine, after my Father's 30-year struggle with MS and his employer, disability, pension, and healthcare collected money from him while healthy then proceeded to deny every coverage. She still thinks the Keystone pipeline is to bring cheap oil to American gas pumps. She is disdainful of unions and blue collar workers, even to her self-employed blue collar son. She thinks the media are all 100% liberal, when the biggest radio market in the WORLD (Los Angeles) is now down to 1-1/2 liberal stations. Hell, she would not let us play with TOY guns as children, and she started in with OBAMA GUN GRABBER rhetoric a few weeks ago out of the blue.

Having lived through the '60s as the only fiscally responsible of many siblings, I think she would let Republicans feed her feet first into an idling wood chipper, before she would allow herself to voice approval for anything that could remotely be labelled LIBERAL.

CaptainShuddup says

Are you calling me a liar?

Nope.

Forgot to add: My Republican Mom raised us during the Womens' Lib era, to be respectful and egalitarian-minded toward women, and dealt with my Dad's rigid 50s gender role ideals, and donated to Planned Parenthood for decades, YET called Sandra Fluke a slut who just wants people to pay for her birth control.

~Le sigh~

FortWayne says

SS pays too little. It's a disgrace what our government turned the program that was supposed to help seniors into. $800, that's what most people I know are getting from their SS.

Blame Michael Boskins: The Boskin Commission developed a very sneaky way of massaging CPI data so that SS COLAs were pegged to understated inflation metrics, thereby fucking Grandma and Grandpa...

SS was a fine blueprint before all the hand lotion'd Welches in DC got hold of it and started playing grab ass with their whiteboards.

CaptainShuddup says

Are you calling me a liar?

Let's take this out to the parking lot...

That's a Liberal trifecta, you got a hated white guy, that's really hispanic, it's go guns fear and those mean ole republicans denying voters rights.

But you know what bother's me, my ass isn't hurting from all of the popular Republican boogey man meme's it's the actual Liberal legislation that is fucking the country over.

Don't forget, who has to sign every thing into law. It certainly isn't Zimmerman.

Vicente says

Her caregiver helpfully reregistered her as Republican and now she votes just like he does. Talking to a lady in the nursing home industry, this is not at all uncommon.

Something to consider the next time you hear people advocating "vote by mail" or "vote online" to increase democracy. There is something to be said for requiring people to show up on election day, sign their own names the same way it appears on their registrations, and turn in their own ballots.

Vicente says

Her caregiver helpfully reregistered her as Republican and now she votes just like he does. Talking to a lady in the nursing home industry, this is not at all uncommon.

I could almost be outraged along with you, if the same thing wasn't happening in other counties, but a different party.

I think anyone involved in a voter drive, should remain neutral of the outcome. OR face 30 years in prison. Rides and Voter drives should have no political affiliation or motive, other than providing a community service to Americans who can't for what ever reason get out to register or vote.

JodyChunder says

Blame Michael Boskins: The Boskin Commission developed a very sneaky way of massaging CPI data so that SS COLAs were pegged to understated inflation metrics, thereby fucking Grandma and Grandpa...

SS was a fine blueprint before all the hand lotion'd Welches in DC got hold of it and started playing grab ass with their whiteboards.

They have all been raiding Social Security funds, Democrats or Republicans. Nothing is sacred to those parasites. Any place there is money, they come to take it.

edvard2 says

finds himself turned off by the GOP these days

Wait until he get's his first medical bill in 2014.
Woah HO! He wont ever take your advice again, not even for the best way to Oysters.

CaptainShuddup says

Wait until he get's his first medical bill in 2014.

I'm sure that back in 1951 McCarthy also said that: " Wait until everyone turns into communists!"

That seems to be the general tactic from the GOP: Simply warn people about things that never really happen when they do anything that isn't totally to their liking.

What do you call a Senior Democrat voter?

'debilitating stupidity'

I wish I could claim that one.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/04/christie-accused-of-debilitating-stupidity-after-election-decision/?hpt=hp_t2

What do you call a Republican?

That old person with Alzheimer's

(I claim that one)

I can understand her frustration with Democrats and Obamacare, but the Republicans remain even worse. RyanCare was a plan to impose Obamacare onto senior citizens, replacing Medicare. The Republican plan for Social Security is conceptually similar, replacing the existing Treasury bonds with Wall Street junk bonds and higher management fees. I wish her luck finding a Republican she could vote for in a primary, perhaps if enough people follow her example then the Republican party might nominate tolerable candidates, but I doubt any would win so long as the RNC remain the Religious Nutjob Coalition.

curious2 says

I can understand her frustration with Democrats and Obamacare, but the Republicans remain even worse. RyanCare was a plan to impose Obamacare onto senior citizens, replacing Medicare. The Republican plan for Social Security is conceptually similar, replacing the existing Treasury bonds with Wall Street junk bonds and higher management fees. I wish her luck finding a Republican she could vote for in a primary, perhaps if enough people follow her example then the Republican party might nominate tolerable candidates, but I doubt any would win so long as the RNC remain the Religious Nutjob Coalition.

This is the sad truth. I am so sick of both parties-but the republicans are just worse. Look at the recent immigrtaion bill-the republicans pound of flesh-more H1B visas to replace the American workers that haven't been offshored.

Sick of Obama and abuse of executive power-well the republicans started it and still won't condemn him for it. Where do you turn to, when both sides are a bunch of crooks and thieves. The old saying about being between a rock and a hard place rings true. Sick of Obamacare-well it is actually Romneycare with different packaging and was actually championed by the Heritage institute.

JodyChunder says

Blame Michael Boskins: The Boskin Commission developed a very sneaky way of massaging CPI data so that SS COLAs were pegged to understated inflation metrics, thereby fucking Grandma and Grandpa...

Speaking of changing CPI data, Obama suggested we do this again... another one of those pretend CPI adjustments.

Yeah with social security , Obama has always offered cuts, when republicans haven't even openly asked for them. He seems to think it is some sort of grand bargain. He has offered cuts multiple times.

FortWayne says

Speaking of changing CPI data, Obama suggested we do this again... another one of those pretend CPI adjustments.

FWIW, Boskin worked his legerdemain under Clinton's watch.

sbh says

curious2 says

I wish her luck finding a Republican she could vote for in a primary

I would greatly appreciate if you would recommend a Republican for me to consider listening to; one who isn't theocratic and extreme. A living Republican, I should say.

I actually like Ron Paul. Despite his clownishness, his son ain't that bad, when compared to the rest.

JodyChunder says

SS was a fine blueprint before all the hand lotion'd Welches in DC got hold of it and started playing grab ass with their whiteboards.

Well said!
So was a lot of things.

CaptainShuddup says

JodyChunder says

SS was a fine blueprint before all the hand lotion'd Welches in DC got hold of it and started playing grab ass with their whiteboards.

Well said!

So was a lot of things.

I think we the people trusted our government with our money for too long and let them for too long get away with robbing us.

FortWayne says

I think we the people trusted our government with our money for too long and let them for too long get away with robbing us.

Government spending has always been a facet of American government. I find it interesting that in this day in age, when taxes are actually lower than they've been in over 60+ years that there are these people going around whining and complaining about it.

You want to talk about spending? Take a look at how much we spent on the Manhatten Project. At the time it was the largest industrial project in the world, consumed more electrical power than the entire US automotive industry combined, and cost literally billions of 1940's era dollars. Look at how much was spent during the cold war with the insane amount of advanced weapons that came out in that period. What about the Space race and the moon landings? Again- another ENORMOUS project that at the time was the single most expensive project in the world.

Many people also seem to forget that spending also means spending on public works. Look at all of those movies from the 50's, with cars streaming down smooth-as-glass, perfect, and new freeways. What about the state parks? Being a park Ranger was a noble, if not outright stable job. What about those scads of post-war government funded tract houses and college educations?

Funny how that when many Americans get all teary-eyed and nostalgic for the "good ole' days", its usually the 1950's, back when government spending from that and the immediate previous period had been and was HUGE. Interesting that a country that is well-funded and well maintained via a sensible taxation system leads to overall contentment of the populace...

CaptainShuddup says

She called today, and was informed that the State of Florida has been covering her part B payments, but Rick Scott put a stop to that a few months ago, to put on a show that he is expanding Medicareas per Obamacare legislation.

Excuse me, but you just wrote in the quote above that Rick Scott caused your mother to have her SS check reduced. How can you blame Obama for something you admit was set in motion by Rick Scott. That's like being mugged and then blaming the landlord of the guy who mugged you for raising his rent and necessitating his decision to rob people to pay the difference. Rick Scott is the one responsible for the hardship of your mother. The two of you and your siblings should blame him.

edvard2 says

Funny how that when many Americans get all teary-eyed and nostalgic for the "good ole' days", its usually the 1950's, back when government spending from that and the immediate previous period had been and was HUGE. Interesting that a country that is well-funded and well maintained via a sensible taxation system leads to overall contentment of the populace...

You're on to something.

A lot of things changed since back then. The absorption of the old southern democrats into the republican party was big. Possibly even bigger was the degree to which corporations and the plutocrats learned how to use propaganda so well that there are literally millions of fortwayne type dimbulbs out there, that think all of this is their own thinking.

A lot of it (the guns, gays, and god part) might simply fit with their brain type. But the rest, I believe is the result of constant "libtard" bashing propaganda from Rush, and Fox, and the rest of talk radio.

sbh says

I would greatly appreciate if you would recommend a Republican for me to consider listening to; one who isn't theocratic and extreme.

Although not a Republican, I've been looking for examples, and it's difficult to find any still in office. Even Illinois Senator Mark Kirk and Ohio Senator Rob Portman, the only two current Republican senators to disagree with their party on marriage equality, are tied to other current Republican policies. I do listen respectfully to former Massachusetts governor Bill Weld, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson (who ran for President in 2012 as a Republican, then got the Libertarian nomination instead), former California Governor Pete Wilson, and former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Alas I don't see them running for office any time soon, and I don't accord as much weight to politicians' endorsements as I did before realizing politicians tend to exchange endorsements as favors rather than giving candidly their own opinions.

futuresmc says

hat's like being mugged and then blaming the landlord of the guy who mugged you

No. he'll tell you it's like blaming the guy who ran his finger through the wet paint on your car, or no I mean it's like blaming the painter who is ultimately responsible, even if your car is scratched up after the paint dries.

I don't know, these metaphors confuse me.

robertoaribas says

lostand confused says

I actually like Ron Paul. Despite his clownishness, his son ain't that bad, when compared to the rest.

Ron and Rand Paul are great! Unless you understand economics, finance, world politics, History, and want to see the US prosper in the future, and have a functioning government.

Other than that, they are great!

Sure Bush and the current crop of democrats who offshore our jobs, sign up for trillion dollar wars, introduce acts like Patriot Act , support the war on drugs are all great for our country.

You guys are throwing out the soup with the baby still in it.

CaptainShuddup says

You guys are throwing out the soup with the baby still in it.

Now you gone and made Jody hungry, dammit.

lostand confused says

I actually like Ron Paul. Despite his clownishness, his son ain't that bad, when compared to the rest.

Absofuckinglutely. Probably the only thing you say that I would agree with.

Just to be clear we would not have astronomical medical costs if LBJ kept is dumb ass ideas to himself, not to mention putting the entitlements into the general fund, not to mention setting inflation into gear by squandering money in Vietnam, to no avail, which led to Nixon having to go off the gold standard which brings us back to today.

LBJ deserves an APOCALYPSEFUCK flag pole shoved up his ass with his carcass proudly displayed in front of the white house.

CaptainShuddup says

Richard Wicks says

And this group things they deserve to retire. It is to laugh.

I'll do the finnin' around here, moron.

Ugh.

The United States has a national debt of 16.8 trillion dollars. It has increased on average at 9.4% a year since 1971 - since we left the gold standard. It will be 33 trillion or so by 2020. It will be 80 trillion by 2030 - provided the 42 year trend continues.

Tax revenue remains flat and is currently at 15% of the national debt.

The Federal Reserve purchases over 60% of newly issued government debt, because nobody else will willingly purchase government bonds at this interest rate.

In 1980, Paul Volker raised interest rates to 18% for 2 quarters. 18% of 16.8 trillion dollars today is 3.02 trillion dollars - more than the federal government takes in for tax revenue.

It really doesn't matter what you think of me. You're still caught in this belief that the Democrats will fix it, or the Republicans will. It's unfixable.

Classical Republicans were warning about this in the 1970s. They're all dead. They're all fascists now. There's simply no way that the boomer generation can retire. Their tax rates were low through all their lives, from their 20's to their 60's - the US went from the greatest creditor to the largest debtor in all of human history. Divide 16.8 trillion by 350 million people - that's the debt PER PERSON in this country.

There's a cost for living recklessly, and the boomers all lived very recklessly. You think Generation X and Y are going to pick up the check EVEN IF THEY COULD? There isn't any option.

Maybe if the US goes to war with China and manages to win, and turn the entire population into slaves. That might prolong it for another couple decades...

As usual, everything I write has become censored.

I showed the math for the debt, why it's probably unpayable, and what the inevitable conclusion will be.

Time well wasted.