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1   Blurtman   2013 Aug 1, 3:29am  

Hilarious! Among the many inconsistencies is the two tierd credit ratings system in this country. Wealthy and well connected developers who walked away from loans for developments continue to access financing. The individual citizen who walked away from an under water home gets a negative credit rating and restricted access to financing.

2   indigenous   2013 Aug 1, 3:58am  

Is there any chance for a libertarian candidate? Could Rand receive legacy support? McCain's comments are a good indicator of what direction to go, he is Mr Bland we need someone who is true to his ideals and not afraid to speak them. The younger voters may well be swayed by a libertarian candidate.

3   Vicente   2013 Aug 1, 1:48pm  

sbh says

If the Libertarian way is to obviate cronyism who but the dope Cartels would step up?

Drug gangsters benefit if their activity is decriminalized?

Nice try!

4   Vicente   2013 Aug 1, 4:23pm  

Sorry personal joke. As a former Libertopian myself, I still can't wrap my head around how paulistas can EVER live the ideology. Alan Greenspan at least deluded himself he was a mole who would apply the right judo while mumbling and obscuring his goals. These numb nuts juts can't shut up.

5   Tenpoundbass   2013 Aug 2, 12:19am  

Does Conservative welfare count as conservative welfare if a Liberal president signs it into law?

6   indigenous   2013 Aug 2, 12:22am  

Vicente says

As a former Libertopian myself

What do you call yourself now that you are more educated?

7   HydroCabron   2013 Aug 2, 12:29am  

Vicente says

These numb nuts juts can't shut up.

"Hi, I'm Xxxxx. What's your name - ah, never mind, let's get to the point: I'm a libertarian! I'm the only libertarian in the company. I'm the first libertarian ever! Let me tell you about this oh-so-independent and exciting philosophy which you have never heard about (except for the 275 neckbeards you have known since freshman year of college who couldn't shut up about libertarianism). You see, unlike you, I'm persecuted, and can't speak up about my beliefs, because I'm so independent and non-mainstream. Here in the engineering department there are several dozen of us shooting our mouths off all day, and the secretaries and project managers run when they see us, but we're virtually unknown. Anyway, let me tell you about Bobby Jindal, whose oh-so-small-government, even though he's a religious fanatic who wants a theocracy, but I don't want to hear that, so please never mention that... Murray Rothbard Bastiat von Mises Rand Galt Heinlein Paul Paul..."

Sigh.

Don't ever change, libertarians. If only you could (a) actually fight against Christianist religious fanatics, and (b) get something done policy-wise besides lower taxes for the oligarchs and gun rights, you might actually do some good.

Oh, and will you all stop acting as if each of you is the first libertarian I could possibly have ever met?

8   Vicente   2013 Aug 2, 12:33am  

CaptainShuddup says

Does Conservative welfare count as conservative welfare if a Liberal president signs it into law?

Which famous Libertarian figures refused Social Security?

1) Rose Wilder Lane
2) Isabel Paterson
3) Ayn Rand

9   mell   2013 Aug 2, 12:33am  

Vicente says

Alan Greenspan at least

Are you insinuating Greenspan, ex-chairman of an "easy-money" crony-capitalist/socialist institution is a Libertarian?

10   control point   2013 Aug 2, 12:40am  

mell says

Are you insinuating Greenspan, ex-chairman of an "easy-money"
crony-capitalist/socialist institution is a Libertarian?

Have you read "The Age of Turbulence?"

His head was so often between Rand's legs in the 1950s/60s his eyebrows were tangled in her curlies.

11   indigenous   2013 Aug 2, 12:41am  

HydroCabron says

you might actually do some good.

Regardless of philosophy if you can't fund it it will not have any effect. IOW I don't give a rat's ass about philosophy in comparison to the actions.

Unfortunately the only way out of this is out the bottom or educating the constituents to hold their representatives feet to the fire, R or D they both spend other people's money, no matter what rhetoric they use.

The reality is that mutts like you two are beyond education and a waste of time, save fodder to show the truth compared to your bullshit.

12   indigenous   2013 Aug 2, 12:44am  

control point says

Have you read "Greenspan?"

It is true he is absolutely a whore to the cronies. The old adage, look don't listen is apt pertaining to this traitor.

13   Vicente   2013 Aug 2, 12:56am  

mell says

Are you insinuating Greenspan, ex-chairman of an "easy-money" crony-capitalist/socialist institution is a Libertarian?

Ah, No True Scotsman!

You can't shake that tree without a million copies of Atlas Shrugged falling out. I have a copy I read more than once during my Libertarian days. And we know who Uncle Al was a disciple of and thought he was a double-naught agent for:

14   mell   2013 Aug 2, 12:57am  

control point says

mell says

Are you insinuating Greenspan, ex-chairman of an "easy-money"

crony-capitalist/socialist institution is a Libertarian?

Have you read "The Age of Turbulence?"

His head was so often between Rand's legs in the 1950s/60s his eyebrows were tangled in her curlies.

Sure, but that doesn't make him a Libertarian, working for an institution that Libertarians want to see abolished (maybe the penchant for deregulation can be argued in that direction though). Nice imagery though ;)

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