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How long would you live without health insurance?


               
2011 Nov 2, 4:40am   24,483 views  41 comments

by TechGromit   follow (1)  

I got to thinking about this, people in the mid 1950's had to health care that would be considered substandard today, but they didn't die like lemmings. In 1950 the Life expectancy: Women 71.1, men 65.6, today the number are not much better Life Expectancy: Male 73.1 Female 79.1(1997). I would suspect most of the numbers can be explained in improvements to traffic safety than any medical breakthrough. 35% of health care costs are spent on people 65 and older. So assuming you had no health insurance, How long do you think you would live? Other than going to the dentist every year, I have never been hospitalized and I do not take prescription drugs. I think most people could get along fine without any insurance until they are in there 60's. (Assuming a healthy diet, no smoking or other unhealthy activities)

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34   Fantom   @   2011 Nov 25, 5:53pm  

Health insurance, like many insurances, is a scam. Sadly its very existence drives up the cost of the eventuality it insures against.

Nobody actually needs health insurance....what they need is medical care, and there is no reason why insurance should be used to buy most medical care when it is a routine and entirely predictable expense (3-4 doctor/dentists/year).

35   HousingWatcher   @   2011 Dec 10, 12:46pm  

Fantom says

Health insurance, like many insurances, is a scam. Sadly its very existence drives up the cost of the eventuality it insures against.

Nobody actually needs health insurance....what they need is medical care, and there is no reason why insurance should be used to buy most medical care when it is a routine and entirely predictable expense (3-4 doctor/dentists/year).

And exactly how many people have the resources to pay for surgery without insurance?

36   mdovell   @   2011 Dec 12, 10:19pm  

HousingWatcher says

And exactly how many people have the resources to pay for surgery without insurance?

Depends. Insurance locks you not only into the amount that the doctors would get paid but also the time structure. Some medical workers actually give discounts if you don't use insurance. You cannot negotiate pricing with insurance.

37   HousingWatcher   @   2011 Dec 13, 1:06pm  

Only a very very small number of peopel have enough money to fully cover their medical expenses... perhaps no more than 5% of the population.

38   Netreality   @   2011 Dec 19, 8:44am  

Gosh, without health insurance most women/families would go bankrupt with every birth, and a larger percentage of babies would die in childbirth or shortly thereafter.

You may be single or childless now, but will you always be so?

Do you want your sister, mother, daughter, aunt, neice to go bankrupt, possibly die, or lose a baby? Skip prenatal care?

Rather why is the US the ONLY developed nation that DOESN'T have universal care? Backwards, short-sighted nation in my opinion.

And the fact prices are 10x for the uninsured compared to the insured is truly criminal. Where's the class-action lawsuit on that one?

39   elliemae   @   2011 Dec 25, 10:46am  

mdovell says

Monopolies at funeral homes.

Funeral planning is the one area that frosts my ass! they talk about "tributes" and the quality of the caskets - they'll hold up for years! - and all that shit. They prey on the emotions of a person during their most vulnerable moments. I love the competition in the larger cities - it results in $300 cremations and less than $1000 burials.

My kids know to spend the very least amount possible; I'm not Irish, but I would like them to spend more on alcohol for the party than for the burial itself.

40   chemechie   @   2012 Feb 28, 12:30am  

Brentok3 says

I've read a statistic in various places that 85% of the increase in longevity in the US during the twentieth century was due to public health measures, not due to allopathic care.
Public health measures would include trash collection, water treatment, sewer treatment, central heating, food inspection, refrigeration, food storage and shipping improvements, control of vermin and insects, and vaccinations, and perhaps even workplace safety measures, and perhaps some would even consider product safety improvements.

There are statisticians who say more lives were saved in the 20th century by plumbers than by doctors.

41   anonymous   2012 Feb 28, 5:15am  

I've always wondered why plumbers demand such a high price tag

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