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Jody,
I don't know what Bap's situation is, but mine is that I took not a dime of taxpayer dollars for my house, and that, frankly, one should not be extracting taxpayer dollars be it through S8 homeownership program or FHA or first time or whatever.

JodyChunder says

Merry Christmas weasle.

weasle is actually spelled weasel. And IMHO, Bap has a narrow view of the world - I've made no secret of my opinion of that - but I don't think calling him names, even misspelled ones, is productive.

Bap33 says

I do not agree with any type of Gov guage to "allow" access to the free shelter. All humans who desire to use the free shelter, that are not disallowed by a function of law (perverts or criminals, for example), should have the same access as anyone else.

I totally agree with that.

Bap,
Isn't this the way homeless shelters work now?
Such shelters keep people for weeks. Months at best.
You can see how a mom and a few kids would want some stability approaching at least a year. Where would these people go after leaving the shelter?

With such a scarce resource as S8, it does seem fair that vouchers go preferentially to a family who are all citizens vs. a mom who isn't a citizen and has kids who are. Mom should consider going home with her children.

With S8 so scarce a resource, it remains an indefinite guarantee for the small numbers of those fortunate enough to receive vouchers. Staying on S8 for 10 years or more is not uncommon. Such long stays don't seem fair to the 90 percent or more who are crowded out of even getting in line. A strict time limit of 3 years for all but gravely disabled might be painful for those who might have to live in more crowded conditions and lower standards after a time, but such a time limit does seem fairer to all.

033 says

dy,
I don't know what Bap's situation is, but mine is that I took not a dime of taxpayer dollars for my house, and that, frankly, one should not be extracting taxpayer dollars be it through S8 homeownership program or FHA or first time or whatever.

Section 8 is for people who can not do for them selves. HUD loans are tax payer welfare way before SECTION 8. they are a hedge for dudes what either can not save or do not want to use there own $$$

elliemae says

weasle is actually spelled weasel. And IMHO, Bap has a narrow view of the world - I've made no secret of my opinion of that - but I don't think calling him names, even misspelled ones, is productive.

well you worry about being productive and ill call a spade a spade or a spaid or a spayed.

If folks need S8 to make do, the last thing they need is S8 homeownership. A mortgage plus expenses is hell for the government to promote to those least able to fix the roof, the plumbing, the heat, the tree. It goes on and on, all the time, as you know.
Five years into the foreclosure mess, this program seems exceptionally unwise, cruel even:
http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/public_indian_housing/programs/hcv/homeownership