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Dan8267
2011 Dec 11, 2:32am
If you talked him out of his faith, would that make you feel good ?
It would make me feel good about our species. Irrationality is what's going to lead to the destruction of mankind whether through nuclear fire or ecological collapse. We're facing a few Litmus tests here. If we pass, we colonize the galaxy. If we fail, we go extinct. Religion and other forms of irrationality keeps pushing us towards extinction.
And don't think that a population of 7 billion can't go extinct if we render the Earth a lot less hospitable to human life.
Dan8267
2011 Dec 11, 2:34am
It's sort of like logic is their Jesus.
Yes, logic and reality are the basis of our belief system. And that's bad, why?
marcus
2011 Dec 11, 3:14am
If we pass, we colonize the galaxy
Are you saying that you believe religious dogma is propaganda that was brought here by aliens who don't want us to colonize the galaxy ?
Dan8267
2011 Dec 11, 10:52am
LOL, this thread should probably move to religion section because it has veered off so far away from the subject of communism.
agreed
Speaking of communism, it would appear that Karl Marx predicted our current crisis...
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/n8v0f/i_recently_read_the_communist_manifesto_by_karl/
Zeke1964
2011 Dec 12, 9:57am
Museum of Communism FAQ:
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/museum/comfaq.htm
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OK - I'm ready to get skewered for even posting this one...
A long long time ago (I think i was in High School, perhaps even middle school) I wrote a paper on communism. I've always felt that the system has certain merits when applied to small groupings, but begins to break down when applied to larger society. Further - said breakdown is partially due to the fact that there is nothing to keep those tasked with distributing the goods amongst the people from taking a disproportionate share for themselves, particularly in the absence or a strong moral framework or religious underpinning to keep everyone on the same plane. Lets face it - human nature is to horde - to consume more, more more. There is no natural inclination to help others unless there is a perceived benefit (be it current or future) in doing so.
In short some form of "moral communism" can work on small scales - but it breaks down when applied to larger society. Why? and could some tweaks allow one to come up with a "better" system, perhaps one that can be a viable alternative to the representative democracy we have in place now?