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If we accept that, on average for certain characterisitcs , people of one race differ from others in another race, my belief is that we never the less deal with people on an individual basis.

My question is, what kind of person get triggered by other people who want to treat people of different races as if they are the same, when as individuals, comparing one person to the next, they basically are ?

Who benefits and how do they benefit when it becomes no longer a questioned fact, as to which attributes are on average immutably different between races ?

Patrick says

The problem is in being taught an outright lie and being told by schools and employers that merely questioning the lie will get you expelled or fired, or sent to Maoist-style re-education classes.

But why is this "lie" so completely off the radar of people like me (and no, I don't teach it), and yet so important to you and other Trump voters. I HONESTLY can not begin to fathom it.

Unless it's what I think it is.

marcus says

Who benefits and how do they benefit when it becomes no longer a questioned fact, as to which attributes are on average immutably different between races

Patrick says

And again, it is an outright lie that homosexuality is something innate and immutable. It's just a poor choice in life and science backs this up.

I would agree that sometimes you're right. In others, not so sure. I have no need to come down on one extreme or the other on this question. SO I take a libertarian view on it. Besides, it may be in the interest of leveling the population growth.

Patrick says

their grievance-based ideology

You're referring to the far left, not me. But I agree that it's too big an element of the left. Possibly a disadvantage of having the dispossessed and oppressed under your tent, but it's not nearly the whole tent. LEt's see who the dems come up with next time. I have no idea how it goes. But I would even take a somewhat left winger over Trump.

Democrats have to appeal to minorities in the same way that republicans have to appeal to white racists.

I'll grant you that it's a sad situation.

Thanks @marcus

I don't really want to fight at all. But I also don't want people having power to enforce lies on the rest of us to salve their own feelings, or because it pleases the sponsors of NPR.

I don't care what gays want to do to each other. It's their right to fuck up their lives. I just don't want them teaching it to children.

Patrick says

It is another outright lie that the differences in the corporate world are entirely due to "sexism".

I think you're confused. Corporations have liberal policies that operate 'as if' this were true.

Big difference.

I think you would find very few (only extreme feminists) arguing that it is literally true in an absolute sense .

James Damore was fired for Google for attempting to make exactly that point: the difference in distribution of men and women in engineering is not entirely due to sexism.

So that's one huge corporation pretending that it is literally true that sexism accounts for all of the difference in numbers between male and female engineers.

And it's an excellent example of how telling the truth will get you fired.

Lies often have a purpose behind them. I find the acceptance of Trumps lies much more frightening.

I understand lies that are intended to increase the numbers of female engineers. Even if it probably won't be all that effective. Who knows, perhaps having more women engineers ultimately improves aspects of the way engineers communicate with each other,or other aspects of the group, in ways that more than offsets any negatives.

marcus says

I understand lies that are intended to increase the numbers of female engineers. Even if it probably won't be all that effective.

I just cannot accept being officially taught a lie and told to shut up about it. Ever.

The Come to Jesus Meeting...

www.youtube.com/embed/-ep5o3hXyT0

marcus says

Who knows, perhaps having more women engineers ultimately improves aspects of the way engineers communicate with each other,or other aspects of the group, in ways that more than offsets any negatives.

What negatives?
Are you saying women are bad engineers but are better than men at communicating?

Heraclitusstudent says

Are you saying women are bad engineers but are better than men at communicating?

Lol, too much truth.

There are good woman engineers of course, but women provably, scientifically have less interest and aptitude for engineering on average. And communicate better than men do, on average.

Even chimpanzee children have starkly different interests. Male chimpanzee kids choose to play with trucks, female chimpanzee kids choose to play with dolls. No one taught them that.

marcus says

*When a liberal meme is more of an indictment on the liberal himself.

"Russia ....." "Aha?"

I'm banning politics from this thread.

Does that mean you go back and eliminate all the stuff that pokes at "libtards".

Of course not.

Speaks volumes.

Actually as I think about it, it gives me a tiny amount of hope.

Very very very very very very very deep down, you know.

Patrick says

WRONG! We can see result of non-teaching in public schools.
What they call "calories" on food packets is actually kilocalories, or thousands of calories. So, gallon on gasoline has 31000 kcal, while human needs ca. 2000 kcal/day.

Ah, thanks for doing the math. Didn't quite feel right anyway. Off by 1000x!

I thought it was ironic. Maybe our fuehrer will lighten up.

Nah, I'm pretty humorless when it comes to humor!

@marcus Nothing against you personally. I'm glad you're here.

Patrick says

identical twins are not more likely to both be gay if one of them is.

That's false. @Patrick, why do you litter your own site with outright lies?

"A genetic analysis of 409 pairs of gay brothers, including sets of twins, has provided the strongest evidence yet that gay people are born gay. The study clearly links sexual orientation in men with two regions of the human genome that have been implicated before, one on the X chromosome and one on chromosome 8... The latest study involves about three times as many people as the previous largest study, which means it is significantly more statistically robust."

Prior work involving more twins:

"We found 52 percent of identical twin brothers of gay men also were gay, compared with 22 percent of fraternal twins, compared with 11 percent of genetically unrelated brothers," said J. Michael Bailey, an assistant professor of psychology at Northwestern University in Evanston, "which is exactly the kind of pattern you would want to see if something genetic were going on." By "unrelated," Dr. Bailey was referring to brothers by adoption.
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The study examined 56 identical twins, 54 fraternal twins and 57 adoptive brothers recruited through advertisements in gay-interest publications."

You and Fortwayne seem to insist on certain falsehoods, AKA lies. I can see why he obsesses over it, spreading lies to atone for his own sinful thoughts and behavior, but you don't even believe.

curious2 says

That's false. @Patrick, why do you litter your own site with outright lies?

You are quoting either false studies or studies that simply point that people who grow in the same household, under same conditions, more likely end up gay. Which has been proven. It's socially constructed to a high degree. Raise normal kids in a gay neighborhoods, and likelihood of them going looney is higher. Same with Trannies. Which is why this shit is child abuse. The lower the IQ of the child, the higher probability of children raised that way turning out homos. That was another study. And no study has found a genetic difference between gays and normal, which likely means that it's not genetic, but socially constructed (aka sexual confusion). There is no gay gene, just stupidity.

See, your problem is that you ignore half the damn evidence curious2.

The discussion above was veering off topic (no pictures), so I replied in the Reply Thread. Now back to pictures: