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Investing in Brazil


               
2012 Jan 5, 5:00am   9,760 views  18 comments

by TechGromit   follow (1)  

The central bank's interest rate in the United States is .25%, the central bank interest rate in Brazil is 11.75%. There has to be a money making opportunity here. Just as currency brokers make money by buying and selling currency on a daily bases I would think you could deposit money into a Brazil bank and earn a far higher interested rate than in a United States Bank. The current interest rate for saving account for a Brazil bank is currently 10.75%, that's far higher than any United States bank, government bond or other investment. From what I read, it's difficult to open an account unless your a resident of Brazil. I would think it would be a great investment opportunity for someone in Brazil. Form a corporation and take in money from over seas investors, then deposit the money in a Brazil bank, you could give foreign investors a good 8 or 9% interest on there money and skim the remaining interest off the top for yourself. I guess the main issue is how risky is all this. Are Brazil Banks insured by a federal agency like the FDIC? (I see that banks are only insured to deposits to 80,000 Reals with is currently equivalent to $43,000). And is it easy to get your money back when you want to withdraw. I'm sure it's easy enough to sent them money, but if you have to fill out 50 forms to transfer the money back to you, it's really not worth it.

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12   jkennedy   @   2012 Jan 11, 9:29am  

The problem with Brazil right now is that they can't do anything to slow the country down. Higher interest rates won't do it, like they do in the US. I finally realized why. Businesses make huge amounts of profit in Brazil if they're run correctly. While a company here might make 20% margins and 5-10% profits, they make 100% margins in Brazil with 20% profits in Brazil, while their costs SHOULD be far lower. They're just hemorrhaging money because they simply don't have a culture that knows how to be productive.

But for someone who wants to invest, or wants to get involved, they're going to borrow at whatever costs because it's so lucrative down there.

I was just in Salvador, as we were leaving, the taxi driver said: They've just built 50 of these towers, and they're building 50 more. They were far out of the city, with what would probably become a horrendous commute in 3 years. 100, brand new, residential towers. Probably 20 stories high. Housing has been going up at 25% a year for the last 8 years or so.

I'm not sure what will happen, but it's going to be explosive when it does.

I get around 9-10% in a savings account down there, 6% flat, with 3-4% inflation adjusted. It's also income tax free, because the government is trying to get people to save.

Don't bother trying to open up an account, you'll go insane. My wife a CPF (SSN), and old accounts, so we use those.

13   Patrick   @   2012 Jan 11, 11:23am  

GameOver says

Hard bullion is the only thing that you could readily sell to finance most of the other purchases on your list in a Doomsday scenario, don't you think?

I almost forgot slaves! Yes, slaves are portable, easy to sell, hard to print, and they have many uses.

All you have to do is get people to borrow lots of money from you, and to think they must protect you because they want to be like you one day. Then they are your slaves.

They will work, and you will take the results of their work. Just call it "interest" and it's legal. Even better, call it "The American Dream" or "The Free Market" and they will defend their own slavery to the death. They'll never figure out that they are doing all the work and you are getting all the benefit of it.

The only risk is if government shifts taxes to non-productive income like interest in place of taxes on actual work. But there's really no chance of that ever happening, especially with our "representative" democracy that represents only the non-productive slave owners. So you can enjoy your slaves, generation after generation.

14   JodyChunder   @   2012 Jan 11, 2:57pm  

Patrick : YOU should run for office. You got the right stuff mister.

15   Patrick   @   2012 Jan 12, 10:06am  

JodyChunder says

Patrick : YOU should run for office. You got the right stuff mister.

Thanks! I'd be interested if I didn't have to take money from people who would then want to tell me how to vote on laws.

But we don't have any public campaign finance for Congress, right?

And without the privately-funded Congress voting to make publicly-funded Congress a possibility, it will remain impossible. Catch-22, I think.

16   Patrick   @   2012 Jan 13, 12:17am  

Caution about those Caribbean countries' banks though. I have an American friend in Europe who opened an account in the Cayman Islands I think. Anyway, the bank went under and took his whole deposit with it. No FDIC. Money gone.

17   bob2356   @   2012 Jan 13, 8:49am  

Jason M. says

Caution about those Caribbean countries' banks though. I have an American friend in Europe who opened an account in the Cayman Islands I think. Anyway, the bank went under and took his whole deposit with it. No FDIC. Money gone.

Thanks Patrick... taking this to the next level: What countries are good choices for residency (not relocating to), for the purpose of moving investments? Let's get a list together. Rather than guess, I invite anyone posting information to provide links to objective sources. Cost and difficulty of gaining residency is also very helpful information to post, at the same time, if available. Thanks in advance.

http://www.panamalaw.org/index.html has some good info.

18   bob2356   @   2012 Jan 13, 3:26pm  

Nice ass ets.

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