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Either way, the top 0.1% will rule.

Why do you hate Obama?

P.S. you are racist.
P.S.S I didn't understand a word you wrote.
P.S.S.S Sarah Palin backwards spells Nilap Haras

Nomograph says

Actually, the best part of that fake story are the comments . . . it shows exactly what kind of people read wnd.com.

Ok, won't accept the validity of the article, based on the source... Fair enough, would you accept Politico as an authoritative source?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/03/messina-plays-the-underdog-card-117384.html

In a message titled, "Why this race is closer than you think," Messina says Democrats shouldn't feel too good about the track the campaign is on:

... " If the general election were held today, President Obama would lose to Mitt Romney -- according to the latest poll from Washington Post-ABC News. " ...

Guy who's job it is to raise money uses scare tactics to get donors to shell out more money. News?

Nomograph says

Actually, the best part of that fake story are the comments . . . it shows exactly what kind of people read wnd.com.

We don't live in the United States of California.

Obama was put there to shepherd the auto and bank bailouts. They paid him off with Bob Dole's healthcare bill from the nineties. He's no longer needed.

Go back and look at the number of years Republicans versus Democrats have served in the White House since the end of World War II. Democrats only get in once in awhile (as a result of negatively impacting economic events) and when those conditions go away, so do they. Clinton got a second term because he governed as a moderate Republican which Obama is completely incapable of. That's why Gallup's statewide race totals show him getting smashed in the Electoral College.

It's a center-right nation, with or without California.

rootvg says

It's a center-right nation, with or without California.

I think that's a fair assesment.

Romney has a fair chance of winning, assuming enough southern rednecks can stomach voting for a Mormon.

I don't think it matters who wins. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Regardless of which "side" wins, our government works for Crony Capitalist interests. Because that's where the money is. C.R.E.A.M., get the money, dollar dollar bill ya'll.

rootvg says

That's why Gallup's statewide race totals show him getting smashed in the Electoral College.

Can you post a link? The last one I saw showed Obama winning over Romney in the electoral college fairly substantially.

tatupu70 says

rootvg says

That's why Gallup's statewide race totals show him getting smashed in the Electoral College.

Can you post a link? The last one I saw showed Obama winning over Romney in the electoral college fairly substantially.

I've posted this several times.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/352881

It's Gallup which is almost never wrong.

If you look at this map and then at the 1980 Electoral results, he looks a hell of a lot like Carter. He's even starting to act like Carter, talking about how we're getting soft and running us down to our allies overseas.

This isn't the sort of leadership Americans expect from a President and his administration. There are only 55 Electoral votes out here. We don't live in the United States of California!

Interesting. I don't recall seeing you post that one, but I must have missed it.

Here's the one I remember seeing-it's uses a model to predict the winner based on a variety of factors.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/obama-poised-win-2012-election-303-electoral-votes-202543583.html

tatupu70 says

Interesting. I don't recall seeing you post that one, but I must have missed it.

Here's the one I remember seeing-it's uses a model to predict the winner based on a variety of factors.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/obama-poised-win-2012-election-303-electoral-votes-202543583.html

I've been watching campaigns for over thirty years.

Do you really believe Obama can win two out of three among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida again? After the results of the 2010 House races, I don't.

Did you know Scott Brown is leading Liz Warren by eight points in Massachusetts? That wouldn't be happening in an environment in which Obama would be electable to a second term.

No President since FDR in 1936 has been elected to a second term with eight percent unemployment. This isn't 1936 and Obama ain't FDR.

Obama was the first Democrat to carry Virginia since 1964 and North Carolina since 1976. All of the polling data we have suggests those two states and then Ohio and Florida reverting to historical norms. Gallup has Pennsylvania going for the unnamed Republican and that only happens in years that are Electoral routs for the Republicans.

I really think the race is over and has been over for two years. He's no longer needed. We need a new President who's a better fit (with a compliant House and Senate) for solving the problems at hand. The bust is over and we need a change in monetary policy to wring out all this slop. That (as I've said) will require another Fed chief and another recession...just as it did when Volcker came in the door in 1979.

I can't see PA going for Santorum if he wins the nomination. Santorum was booted out of his PA senator seat. I do think Romney has a good shot at winning PA.

Oregon would never go for Santorum. Would it even go for Romney? Oregon is pretty liberal, like CA and WA.

At the end of the day, I don't think Santorum will get the nomination. His negatives are too strong and he's doesn't represent Big Business (which always wins in the end) as much as Mitt "Yes Man" Romney.

wthrfrk80 says

I can't see PA going for Santorum if he wins the nomination. Santorum was booted out of his PA senator seat. I do think Romney has a good shot at winning PA.

Oregon would never go for Santorum. Would it even go for Romney? Oregon is pretty liberal, like CA and WA.

At the end of the day, I don't think Santorum will get the nomination. His negatives are too strong and he's doesn't represent Big Business (which always wins in the end) as much as Mitt "Yes Man" Romney.

Romney will be the nominee and he will carry Ohio and Florida in huge numbers. Gallup has him down as carrying Pennsylvania. We'll see.

The whole Santorum thing is a cable news media mindfuck. He was never going to be the nominee.

I'm more interested in who the new Fed chief will be.

rootvg says

I've been watching campaigns for over thirty years.

So have I.rootvg says

Do you really believe Obama can win two out of three among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida again? After the results of the 2010 House races, I don't.

Pennsylvania is almost a lock. Ohio and Florida will be competitive. The thing you have to remember is that he hasn't even started campaigning yet. And he's not running against a nameless Republican--it will either be Romney or Santorum. Not exactly heavyweights and both come with a lot of baggage.

Check back with me in August or September and let's see what your polls say.

tatupu70 says

rootvg says

I've been watching campaigns for over thirty years.

So have I.rootvg says

Do you really believe Obama can win two out of three among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida again? After the results of the 2010 House races, I don't.

Pennsylvania is almost a lock. Ohio and Florida will be competitive. The thing you have to remember is that he hasn't even started campaigning yet. And he's not running against a nameless Republican--it will either be Romney or Santorum. Not exactly heavyweights and both come with a lot of baggage.

Check back with me in August or September and let's see what your polls say.

It won't be Santorum. If you think it will, you don't know anything about how American politics work.

Let's say Obama gets another term. He turns out his people in the SEIU, they steal Ohio and Florida and he wins again. We know the Senate's gonna flip. That's a done deal. We know the House will remain in Republican hands because (1) it doesn't normally flip back and forth and (2) we just had redistricting in the states and that's an incumbency friendly event.

So...in your scenario, we have Barack Obama waking up to Darrell Issa's bomb throwing and then the inevitable House hearings next summer leading impeachment and trial in Mitch McConnell's Senate. The Republican majority there is likely to be nowhere near as docile as the one during Clinton's trial and they almost certainly would fry him like an egg. All of this is going on while we have seven or eight percent unemployment and old people are getting 1-2 percent on a CD while continuing to receive a weekly high colonic at the grocery store and gas pump.

We'll also go another two to possibly four years without a Federal budget.

This would NEVER happen. It would destroy the two party system.

Washington isn't Sacramento.

We will have Romney (because the party fathers on both sides have probably already agreed on it and made peace) and then a Republican Senate to go with the Republican House.

AND...a new Fed chief:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/is-this-man-the-next-fed-chairman/2011/08/25/gIQAH9U1fK_blog.html

What I want to know is whether or not he has Volcker's guts...because in order to clean this up, that's what it's gonna take.

rootvg says

It won't be Santorum. If you think it will, you don't know anything about how American politics work

I agree that it's very likely that it will be Romney. The Republican base is completely nuts, though, so I don't rule anything out.

rootvg says

We know the Senate's gonna flip. That's a done deal.

I also agree that it's likely that the Senate will flip. Although Snowe's decision muddles up the waters a bit. If that seat goes D and Warren can win Mass, things get interesting.

rootvg says

We know the House will remain in Republican hands because (1) it doesn't normally flip back and forth and (2) we just had redistricting in the states and that's an incumbency friendly event.

That's very weak logic. Try again.

rootvg says

So...in your scenario, we have Barack Obama waking up to Darrell Issa's bomb throwing and then the inevitable House hearings next summer leading impeachment and trial in Mitch McConnell's Senate. The Republican majority there is likely to be nowhere near as docile as the one during Clinton's trial and they almost certainly would fry him like an egg. All of this is going on while we have seven or eight percent unemployment and old people are getting 1-2 percent on a CD while continuing to receive a weekly high colonic at the grocery store and gas pump.
We'll also go another two to possibly four years without a Federal budget.
This would NEVER happen. It would destroy the two party system.

That makes no sense at all. Voters won't elect Obama because you have a vision of the future that CAN'T happen?? Sorry, that's not how it works.

Bottom line: If the economy continues to improve over the summer and gas prices come down, then Obama probably wins. If the economy goes back in the toilet and unemployment rises and/or gas prices rise, then Obama is in trouble.

It's a long time until election--lots of things will change between now and then.