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curious2
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2012 Sep 29, 8:34am
Please buy Patricks book to support the cause.
Done, and am enjoying reading it!
JodyChunder
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2012 Sep 29, 10:18am
What do you hope to accomplish arguing politics?
The hope is that your views are intellectually challenged. This is constructive in that it helps you gain perspective, which either girds or undermines your philosophy. One thing is for sure -- to stick to the intellectual ghettoes and amen corners of like-minded fiends might be pleasant, but it's no good enough -- not for a serious thinker. You gotta take it out on the track and and then come back and tear everything down and rebuild it again, trying to suss out the weak parts of your blueprint/
No one should waste their time arguing with me.
I know everything. LOL
marcus
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2012 Sep 30, 3:22am
You gotta take it out on the track and and then come back and tear everything down and rebuild it again, trying to suss out the weak parts of your blueprint/
‘Daily discussion of the matters about which you hear me conversing is the highest good for man. Life that is not tested by such discussion is not worth living.’"
Agreed.
Also, these days politics is SO partisan that it's difficult except with certain friends to argue about it.
I've observed that republicans tend to not follow much of it. For example they didn't see Clinton's speech at the democratic convention and they don't want to.
Liberals are more likely to be willing to try on for size the republican view point than the other way around. It's true that you aren't going to change many republican's mind on here. But what about independent's ?
If a relatively politically independent type voter were to read these arguments, and wasn't starting off wanting to believe one side or the other, I have to believe they would easily choose Obama over Romney.
But it's true they wouldn't have to come here to figure that out.
lostand confused
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2012 Oct 2, 4:01am
Nothing. I don't like either party. One is nuts and the other is an ostrich with its head in the sand.
So at different times I end up supporting different parties for different reasons!
If you thought the height of stupidity was the left/right paradigm and repubs bickering with demtards, then I guess you never saw these jackasses that claim to be independents. They make this claim, because they are not married to either party, they merely pick the shittiest of ideas that flow from that two sided coin, and allow them to become law! Thanks a whole friggin lot, friends!
Its impossible to think outside the box, when you willfully trap yourself in the box
Nothing urks me more then to hear the attitudes of the holier then thou "my political bent is better then yours" americans. People actually think they are free, and they rationalize it by wether or not an action falls within the law. You gotta be friggin kidding me. Some clown posted a thread topic that the repub right in this country is responsible for the descent into fascism, and cited their use of the term 'liberal' as a derogatory term. Gtfo with that crap. The people that put higher priority on the laws of the land, over their own personal internal devices to decide what is (morally) right or wrong, are the fascists. "Hey, I might not agree with it, but its not illegal" or hey, I know such and such isn't wrong, but it is illegal. Fuck all to what some horseshit system of laws says to dictate my moral actions. I'm free and I prefer to keep it that way.
That there are millions of poor people rotting away in (for profit) prisons in this country withou ever having committed a crime against society, and you never ever ever hear a peep out of the disinteresting finger waggers about how hieniously cruel that shit is, is all the proof I need that its one big fucking sham.
Instead we have a bunch of people whining about same sex cocksuckers and abortion clinic floozys, who obviously don't know enough to comment on the matter, because its quite obvious you're not getting any yourself.
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Having political debates is nothing new. But the internet has brought a whole new level of what I'd consider nastiness to the scene. Now- I am occasionally guilty of participating in these myself. I'll go further and disclose that I am a fairly liberal person. But seriously, about 90% of the time I don't even bother because I think to myself, why even try? At the end of the day what these arguments all boil down to is this:
" I'm right and you're wrong!"
"- No, I'M right and YOU'RE wrong!"
Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
We've all heard the exact same talking points over and over and over again. It never ends. Its the same crap too, which is someone who is on one "side" will post something that is I guess another means to prove their points, which again have been made repeatedly in the past and present.
I find this frustrating because I come from a mixed ( politically) family. Half the family voted Republican. The other half voted Democrat. Yet somehow, even now we can have a fairly civil and productive conversation. Most of the time we actually agree on most of the topics at hand. Yet this sort of intelligent and respectful debate doesn't happen anywhere else.
But in the end, for those who constantly argue about politics, what is the desired outcome? One thing is certain: Nobody is going to change anyone's mind. If that's the goal then forget it. If that's the case, then what? Why waste so much time doing something that is totally useless and unproductive?
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