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Travis Bickle says

And what will this do to those unemployed for more than a year, which is quite normal in this Obama economy??

As far as I can tell they will be enrolled in Medicare (or Medicaid, whichever).

zzyzzx says

I mean clearly health insurance rates are going to rise dramatically due to all the extra stuff they now have to cover

Nope.

Insurance rates have been going up year after year for quite a while before the PPACA was ever passed or even brought up. That is why Clinton attempted to do healthcare reform years ago.

The cost of insurance and healthcare in the US has less to do with the price of doing business and more with profit for a few at the top.

The big problem with the PPACA is that it doesn't really do all that much to limit how much insurance costs can rise while also giving the insurance companies lots of cash on the tax payers' dime.

Forcing people to buy healthcare coverage while doing little or nothing to restrict price and profit increases for insurance companies and healthcare providers is a fucking joke.

My wife and I gross about 155K a year, there is no subsidy, or pity for EVIL people like us who went to school and work hard for a living. If we were to be dumped into this system, we would have to go to an exchange and pay up to 8% of our income a year on healthcare, or face a $1380 "Tax" from the IRS. So pay $12,400 a year in premiums or pay a fine, excuse me, "Tax" of $1,380 a year and get no services from it. This is bullshit, you know the exchange will run the premium up to the max for your income, this is a huge giveaway to the insurance companies and a huge transfer of wealth from the middle class to the lower class. If my employer quits offering healthcare as a benefit, and why wouldn't he, I'm taking a hit for over $1,000 a month for Obamacare premiums.
Most companies will quit offering health insurance as a benefit I predict, it will just be too tempting for the greedy bastards to pawn you off to the exchange. Without a raise in your pay to reflect their savings of course! They will simply put the money in their pocket. This will have many, many unintended consequences for healthy, middle class families and be a boon to poor and unhealthy people. If you and your wife each make $8 and hour and have a child, you will now have to come up with $215 a month to make the 8% premium, good luck, you'd be better off on welfare by the time it was all said and done. The middle aged woman who can't get insurance for her pre-existing conditions will now have to get insurance for her preexisting conditions, hope she can foot the bill or she'll have to opt out and pay a fine, sorry, "Tax".

So I predict only the poorest, most unhealthy people will be happy with this.

I'm too lazy to do the research. Will the supplemental ins. that 65yr.olds carry be effected.