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AD says

our townhome (built around 2015) is about 2 miles from the shoreline in the Florida panhandle and we got wind gusts up to 180 miles per hour from Hurricane Michael

Storm surge is the biggest enemy in your region. Then wind. Most places built post 2000 should be pretty hurricane proof wind wise.

Live in a place with tornados that can jump up to 300mph. I'll take hurricanes with a newer house over an F5 tornado. No one is building to that standard. That's why when the sirens go off here we're in the basement and go to the basket full of flashlights. Have a 3 sided concrete room and chill there. Knock on wood, they always miss. Have had some close calls and friends lost houses.

Only 1-2 actual siren warnings every year the last decade. When I was a kid it was 5-10 every year. I think however the weather pattern changed, it shifted South of where I am. I sound gay, but it was traumatizing as a kid. Witnessed two tornados. They're fucking devastating. Not video, but saw them.

WookieMan says

Concrete and steel are a thing. Barrier islands in the panhandle protect their properties with sand dunes. Not foolproof, but their homes don't get washed away into the sea generally with hurricane force winds.

Money is the thing here. If you can't make taxpayers build that seawall for you (again), you are SOL. And apparently even CA government is not keen on spending this kind of dough to rebuild failed 40ft high seawalls.

Santa Cruz is relatively peaceful, being an inlet facing South with all of the real raging going on in the West facing coasts. It still gets fucked by the weather and angry Mother Ocean every couple of years.

Rip rap is ugly and restricts access except to the billy goats who can climb over it. The walls look nice, but projected life expectancy isn't that great when one considers the costs, and that the temporary advantages goes to the wealthy who can afford the houses on the oversees.

Mountains can be challenging too. Neighbors have a 3500 sq. ft. house in Tahoe close to a ridge line. He complains that he is sent up there periodically for snow management, and the back deck collapsed a winter past. He went up once and the snow blower broke and leaked oil all over. He's pissed off because his lady companion's family go up there and trash the place like a hotel room. She's rich, and coughed up the money for the place, but wants him to do all the butler tasks.
He doesn't hang around the grand kids because they aren't his, but he has the donkey boy tasks for the place.
I bet they sell sometime soon, like many people with second homes who seldom use them.

They came very close to being burned out also in the fires the year before last, it was a squeaker. There was that fire several years ago when nearly everything around Lake Arrowhead went up in smoke, too, in SoCal.

Our previous neighbors in Santa Cruz had a place in Lake Arrowhead, their house was spared, but everything around their place was burned trees and ashes.

My older friend has trusteeship over a family area in the Santa Cruz hills that has a natural spring. I laugh because he has this conservator hat he wears and is constantly feuding with the water district politicians and bureaucrats. This culvert has been washed out by flooding at least three times over the last ten years, carrying a bunch of his crap downstream to parts unknown and carving a deep channel. It also burned down once with the surrounding neighborhood when that thunder storm came through a couple of years ago. He had a tent and tool shed and some other temporary conveniences to stay there, and they all burned down.

Ceffer says

Rip rap is ugly and restricts access except to the billy goats who can climb over it. The walls look nice, but projected life expectancy isn't that great when one considers the costs, and that the temporary advantages goes to the wealthy who can afford the houses on the oversees.

That's the key. You can live somewhere more scenic for 1/4th the price, you just might have to deal with seasons. If it wasn't for the wife's job and connections we'd be long gone from IL to a cheaper state. I don't really care about family and in laws. If they want to see us they have the ability to do so.

My mom also owns property on water. It's not worth it. It's like owning a boat. Let your friend do it.

Pacific is strange because it carries ghosts inland. It really effects people's brains.

The nice days are so utterly narcotic and psychedelic beautiful that they are hard to describe. They also create absolute amnesia to the generally poor attitudes of the people and the regular stompings by the natural environment, in spite of the nice weather. It makes the Santa Cruz hard liners about as smug and chauvinistic about their place as New Yorkers are about theirs, but in a hippie dippie way. Different places, different pretenses.

I'm one of them.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/newsom-assures-californians-they-will-be-safe-from-all-the-trump-administrations-prosperity-safety-lower-prices

Even people Portland OR don't want people from California:
https://youtube.com/shorts/1mKhC0gtvPs?si=ImSNI031bCC7NxG2

Portland is so ungrateful. It wouldn't be the mecca of madness and louche perversion and drug use that it is without the Dempsey Dump of Californians who didn't get enough crazy from their home state. It looks like it's the ugly tatt lesbo sister city of Santa Cruz.

Of course, now, with all the Soros fecal impactions, its also a simmering cauldron of crime and anarchy.

Fighting the fraud one small step at a time?

https://t.me/DeepDives/34263