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Patrick says

One day I saw an entire backyard deck float by.

Were the people still in the hot tub?

RC2006 says

How much will this increase gas prices? Gas lost will be replaced by bringing in gas for overseas.

Phillips 66 announced Wednesday it will close its 650-acre oil refinery complex near the Port of Los Angeles by the fourth quarter of 2025, days after Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a new law regulating gas storage and refineries.

The refinery in Wilmington, together with a complex in Carson 5 miles away, produces up to 85,000 barrels per day of gasoline and 65,000 barrels per day of distillates, such as diesel.

Last time they allowed gas from overseas it required relaxing of "specisl formulation" requirement, iirc.

RWSGFY says

50 years ago when that shack was built it was not "close to the cliff", mwahahahaha.

Yes it was. Wasn't engineered properly. You can avoid erosion like that no problem. It's not complicated. But whatever? Look at the house to the North. It's fucked. They didn't do pilings correctly. This is engineering 101. Do it right once.

WookieMan says

You can avoid erosion like that no problem.

I can see you have never met the Pacific Ocean.

I have in many parts of the of the West coast from Seattle to San Diego many of times.

My folks owned a condo on a barrier island in Florida in the panhandle. All it is, is 12' of sand above sea level (if that) and gets hit by up to CAT 4 hurricanes. Still there's no erosion. 1/4 of a mile at widest. It's a sand bar basically.

Kind of weird a place that doesn't get hurricanes wasn't engineered as well as places in FL? If you want to live on water you need to engineer it correctly or plan better when building. Doesn't matter what body of water.

That slide could have been prevented. If you don't have the money to put in proper infrastructure to secure your property, don't live there? That place is uninsurable now without spending millions.

zzyzzx says

Instant infinity pool!!!

WookieMan says

RWSGFY says

50 years ago when that shack was built it was not "close to the cliff", mwahahahaha.

Yes it was. Wasn't engineered properly. You can avoid erosion like that no problem. It's not complicated. But whatever? Look at the house to the North. It's fucked. They didn't do pilings correctly. This is engineering 101. Do it right once.

There are buildings in, say, Pacifica which are front row now but weren't less than 10 years ago. That coastline constantly moves inward.