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CaptainShuddup says

Nader, Paul, and Kucinich, are for reforming the corruption in Washington, that makes every Liberal gesture an exercise in Irony.

Nader, Paul, and Kucinich are almost the very definitions of liberal. Ron Paul is a libertarian. Any true libertarian is by definition a liberal. Nader and Kucinich are socialist, but that's an economic philosophy, not a social one. Both are liberals as both advocate social freedoms.

And yes, I like these three politicians on government reform and human rights issues even though I disagree with all three on economic issues. I'd still support any of them.

Ron Paul and Ralph Nadar are actually good friends and have come together on many human and civil rights issues despite being polar opposites on economic issues.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/28/ralph-nader-hearts-ron-paul-ha

http://www.youtube.com/embed/QLdcB0ln9t8

Even Noam Chomsky gives proper respect to Ron Paul. If the double-dumb fucks in the Republican rank and file had the sense to nominate Ron Paul, Obama wouldn't get re-elected. By nominating 47% can suck my balls Romney, the Republicans have forfeited the election and no amount of election fraud (voter ID suppression) is going to change that fact. And to think, the Republicans literally rallied behind every alternative to Mitt Romney except Ron Paul

Tecumcari says

Dan8267 says

It's been mathematically proven that Al Gore won the election. No amount of time is going to change that fact.

Only if your 'math' uses conjecture on how people MEANT to vote.

Tecumcari says

Also, Presidents don't win elections from the popular vote but via the Electoral College.

Did you read the fucking paper? It does not use any conjectures and it addresses electoral college votes, not popular votes. Finally, it's not my math, it's math period and the math was done and shown in complete detail by Cornell University, Northwestern University, University of California, and Harvard University and published in the peer-reviewed political journal American Political Science Review. With those fucking credentials making a snarky remark is no refutation.

If you honestly think the math is flawed and all the peer reviews by highly qualified skeptics didn't catch it, than show a mathematical proof that their math is wrong. That's what a peer review board would do.

Just because you don't like the conclusion doesn't mean the conclusion is wrong. I've got a highly qualified peer-reviewed journal that shows all its work as proof that Al Gore won the election versus a snarky assertion that "math is wrong" to say Gore lost. Which side would anyone with a brain favor?

Dan8267 says

Even Noam Chomsky gives proper respect to Ron Paul. If the double-dumb fucks in the Republican rank and file had the sense to nominate Ron Paul, Obama wouldn't get re-elected

The Problem with Ron Paul was, he ran in a closed primary, the majority of his supporters were disillusioned Democrats, and hardcore Independents. His base was NOT allowed to nominate him.

Daily Trader says

"I mean, for fuck's sake, your last post seems to be saying he was unelectable because he kissed his wife. What the hell?"

That kiss more more than just a kiss. It was a failed attempt to make Gore not look so robotic.

It never ceases to amaze me how Americans like to seize on the unimportant in elections. Gore kissed his wife wrong. Obama "fist-bumped" with his wife. Obama looked at the floor. Dennis Kucinich is too short. etc.

Here's an idea: Maybe we could start judging presidential candidates by how good a job they would do as president, not by a bunch of fucking stupid irrelevant trivialities. But I guess I'm asking too much.

CaptainShuddup says

Belive what you want buddy. Just do me a favor, don't bitch at me for Voting for Nader. He is after all, how you put it... A Liberal.

Vote for whoever you damn well want to vote for. I don't care. I'm just calling you out for your inconsistencies. You don't understand the issues, and you don't understand which candidates are for which things. But that sure doesn't stop you from shooting your mouth off all the time.

Homeboy says

Gore kissed his wife wrong. Obama "fist-bumped" with his wife. Obama looked at the floor. Dennis Kucinich is too short. etc.

We have television to thank for that. Style is now more important than substance.