patrick.net

Just like Krugman used to worry about deficits during Bush years and not so much lately.

Dan8267 says

I can say that the Republican's are far more the denial of facts party. Just look at climate change.

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Dan,

I find it interesting how 'global warming' crusade morphed into 'climate change' the last 10 years. After it's been proven that the earth is not getting warmer. I don't deny we have 'climate change'. Hell, what climate doesn't happen in the short, medium and long term. There's no denial on the Republicans view of climate change either. Not speaking for them, but this conservative believes that climate change is not mainly due to man. More like sun... While one polar ice cap is 'melting'/shrinking, the other one on the other side of the planet is growing. Who'dathunk?

leo707 says

Ostriches are also delicious. There are lots of places you can get ostrich burger and they are OK, but if you ever have the opportunity to try and ostrich steak give it a try. You will thank me later.

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I have heard good things about ostrich meat. However, Bison is where it's at.... If you are ever in the area, Bison County on Moody Street in Waltham, MA is a great place to get some....

leo707 says

Oh, thank god(s), Dan has finally gotten sick of posting pics of shirtless men

I will never get sick of posting pics of shirtless men as long as they look like Matthew McConaughey. The ewww was for the guy who did not look good.

The sad thing is that I didn't have to type in shirtless in my Google image search for "Matthew McConaughey". Google already knew what daddy wanted.

leo707 says

I could have done without that crotch zooming David Hasselhoff.

That one is a classic. You see, when your zooming in, the inner Hasselhoff looks like an erect penis, but ends up being Hasselhoff himself, and then you zoom in again at what looks like an erect penis. And it all happens at just the right speed so that your brain can't anticipate that the next Hoff isn't a penis, so it's like wearing an Ur-Quan excruciator.

AverageBear says

After it's been proven that the earth is not getting warmer. I don't deny we have 'climate change'. Hell, what climate doesn't happen in the short, medium and long term.

You seriously need to stop watching Fox News and conservative talk radio and start listening to real news like NPR. Global warming has been proven beyond even any unreasonable doubt. 97% of scientists definitively state that global warming is happening and that it is caused by man. The other 3% are paid by corporations and lobbyists trying to prevent anti-pollution laws.

Whether you call the phenomenon global warming or climate change is irrelevant. The later name has become popular because "warming" doesn't describe all the various things (droughts, flooding, air and sea current changes, etc) that are happening.

In fact, we're way beyond the point where we can prevent global warming. We're already going to incur economic costs of climate change that are going to far exceed the profits gained by corporations by polluting the Earth. That much is already certain.

The debate now is how much we are willing to do to mitigate the costs of climate change and to adapt to the inevitable change that is already here and will continue to come. It is already a given that we are going to have a 2°C rise in global temperatures in the next few decades. That might not sound like much to you, but it translates into trillions of dollars of lost wealth -- something that maybe you can appreciate. The debate now is that without changing the paths we're on whether the rise in temperatures will be a mere 4°C or an 8°C change over the next 50 years.

Once in a lifetime natural disasters are now happening every single year.
Islands populated for thousands of years are now under water due to rising sea level.

http://www.3YXzTzTWyEs

The same thing will happen to the New York islands eventually.

http://www.Ahk_faoFmIY

200 million refuges expected. That's not insignificant.

http://www.8Vywtkqre4c

And that's just what's happening with a 2°C rise in global temperature. 4 or 8 degrees will be much worse. Of course, you don't care because you think that you and your family won't be affected. And that is where you are wrong. It's not just poor nations that will suffer a loss. America will lose trillions of dollars of real estate alone, not to mention the economic costs of replacing infrastructure lost as coastal land is lost and tens of millions of people on the populated coastlines relocate further inland. Just imagine the costs of building a replacement for New York City alone. That's going to come from your tax dollars. That's going to affect the stock market. That's going to burden this country with debt. Environmental problems are economic problems. It is financially foolish to let corporations pollute when this pollution will cost us far more money than it "saves" within your own damn lifetime.

Greed + stupidity = poverty

All climate change deniers are full of shit. None of them will put their money where their mouths are. Insurance companies, which are very pro-Republican, are certainly not climate change deniers.

From that bastion of hippie literature, High Times,

The world’s largest reinsurer has examined the recent rise in the number and severity of natural disasters worldwide, and finds the trend bears the unmistakable fingerprints of climate change.

What’s more, America is bearing the brunt of that change.

Oh wait, that actually was from Forbes Magazine.

It's funny how conservatives deny climate change when debating anti-pollution laws, but fully embrace that "theory" when setting rates for insurance. I am more apt to listen to a republican when his own ass and money is on the line. I find you get more honest answers from them that way.

Ah but how many of those high profile climate change deniers are quietly buying up inland properties that will see their values skyrocket in the coming decades as the ocean slowly moves inland?

Lex Luthor would be proud.

We'll find out soon enough. Mayans said the world is ending in 2 weeks. Makes reps vs dems and buy vs rent debates rather insignificant.

Dan8267 says

Well, I just Google Image Searched "Republican Bears"...

First off, ewwww...

Against my better judgement I tried Google Image Searching "Republican Bears" myself. Just how many pages did you have to scroll through to find that nastiness?

Dan8267 says

I'd say that ducks and dogs are democrats, and cats are republicans.

I'd say you're right.

Of course as we well know Republicans = Bears

and

Bears = Communists

Therefore

Republicans = Communists

CaptainShuddup says

Republicans are Classical Economists

Wa? Are you shitting me?

Mark D says

thomas wong = Chinese-bear

That would be a Panda...

Dan8267 says

Global warming has been proven beyond even any unreasonable doubt. 97% of scientists definitively state that global warming is happening and that it is caused by man.

Cows with Gas: India's Global-Warming Problem

Now, however, India's ubiquitous cows — of which there are 283 million, more than anywhere else in the world — are assuming a more menacing role as they become part of the climate-change debate.

By burping, belching and excreting copious amounts of methane — a greenhouse gas that traps 20 times more heat than carbon dioxide — India's livestock of roughly 485 million (including sheep and goats) contributes more to global warming than the vehicles the animals obstruct.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1890646,00.html#ixzz2EQSjzuHG

read again... cows contribute more to greenhouse than cars.

Mark D says

is it just me or most of the bears here are republicans. not sure what side Patrick is on.

oh.. it doesnt surprise me that many libs here are pro real estate and high property values..

no matter how much pain and problems it creates in places like Silicon Valley.

The end game is ... it doesnt work.. employers will go elsewhere or our industries will go under... Like Locust they only destroy the local economies...

thomaswong.1986 says

Mark D says

thomas wong = Chinese-bear

That would be a Panda...

Panda proves that the intelligent designer is a postmodernist.

Down with pandas! We need to preserve redheads instead.

Only fools will embrace policies backed by so-called models.

AGW is like home prices in 2005. Yes, it was a fact that prices were going up. But was it right to claim that prices will only go up? Was it right to have policies like allowing toxic loans so that people do not get priced out?

Climate is no less nonlinear than economics.

Mark D says

is it just me or most of the bears here are republicans. not sure what side Patrick is on.

I cannot be classified.