patrick.net

Can we finally organize a football game - OWS vs tea party and put all these arguments to rest?

Enjoy Your Hope and Change says

You seemed to value teleprompter reading skills much higher not so long ago: "the fact that Obama doesn't sound like a 10 year old speaking at the podium is reason enough to see that Bush was about 500% worse."

I am not sure how much easier to make this understandable to you. Did I in any form or fashion proclaim that Obama's use of a teleprompter was the single and only reason he was better than good ole' GW? Nope. The premise as most anyone else can see is that it was a comment in regards to a whole general mess that was the Bush admin.Enjoy Your Hope and Change says

Yep, he gets the same shit done blah blah blah...

Awfully convenient that you forgot to mention that pretty much everything on your laundry list was already enacted by GW. Whoops. Sorry ya'll lost the election and all, but that's how the cookie crumbles aint it?

Don't ruin this for him!

Homeboy says

Hey idiots,

Bush is not more popular than Obama. Bush had lower approval than Obama in his second term. All other past presidents are above 60% approval, while Bush is only at 49%. That's actually pretty dismal.

Clinton didn't become popular until Bush started mucking things up around 2006. During the 2000 election Clinton was a pariah, so Gore and the other Dems locked him in box and sunk him to the bottom of the ocean for the next few years. We are now seeing the same basic timeline of events happen again with Bush and Obama's waning popularity.

BradAnderson says

Clinton didn't become popular until Bush started mucking things up around 2006. During the 2000 election Clinton was a pariah

Take that hoopleheads.

My Cats are more popular than Bush. So there. Take that, conservatives!

edvard2 says

My Cats are more popular than Bush. So there. Take that, conservatives!

Sounds like someone has a case of sour grapes.

Sure Bush2 sucked, but Obama does make Bush2 look good, since those were the good old days of lower unemployment.

zzyzzx says

Sure Bush2 sucked, but Obama does make Bush2 look good, since those were the good old days of lower unemployment.

Yeah, and I just looked out my window and saw a whole heard of flying cows. Its true because I said so.

Bush won the personality contest, so get over it...

ooooooh that felt good.

CaptainShuddup says

Bush won the personality contest, so get over it...

I just also saw aliens from mars land in a field. I am seriously not making this up...

BradAnderson says

Clinton didn't become popular until Bush started mucking things up around 2006. During the 2000 election Clinton was a pariah, so Gore and the other Dems locked him in box and sunk him to the bottom of the ocean for the next few years. We are now seeing the same basic timeline of events happen again with Bush and Obama's waning popularity.

Not exactly. First, lame duck presidents always lose popularity, and former presidents always gain popularity. Obama is doing much better in the polls than Bush did at the same point in his presidency. The only way to fairly compare two presidents in the polls is to take the poll numbers they had WHEN they were president, at the same point in each one's term.

Second, I don't remember things happening at all the way you remember them. Bush started "mucking things up" almost immediately in his first term. He undoubtedly wouldn't have been re-elected if 9-11 hadn't happened, and if the democrats hadn't run a relatively weak candidate against him.

zzyzzx says

Sure Bush2 sucked, but Obama does make Bush2 look good, since those were the good old days of lower unemployment.

The unemployment rate at the end of Bush's term was 7.3%. Good old days? Gotta love that selective memory of yours.

Look at the chart. See the huge spike in unemployment? When did it start? How can you blame that on Obama? It's clear that Bush started a huge increase in unemployment, which Obama was able to reverse during his first year in office, and it has steadily declined since then. You don't seriously think that Obama had the power to instantly employ millions of people on his first day in office, do you?

Enjoy Your Hope and Change says

lostand confused says

Fascinating turn of events. I read the comments in the huffpost and looks like the extreme left is twisting itself into a pretzel trying to make Snowden look like a criminal/traitor.

It's almost painful to watch.

John Boehner is the extreme left?

Call it Crazy says

We are in year 5 of your saviour!!! How many MORE years are you going to give Obama a pass and not hold HIM accountable for not improving multiple issues???

You know when someone criticizes Bush, and your response is "Obama is your hero", or "Obama is your savior"? That's called an ad hominem attack. Your response has nothing to do with the issue.

"Bush sucks"
"Oh yeah? Well you like Obama"

Non sequitur. Does not compute.

Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter, they are all sculpted from the same bullshit.

Also, citing the governments crooked numbers is irony at best.

Homeboy says

The unemployment rate at the end of Bush's term was 7.3%. Good old days? Gotta love that selective memory of yours.

That chart is rather meaningless seeing as how the recession started at the end of Bush's Presidency. The unemployment rate would have been just as low, if not lower had GW still been in power.

I bet this girl would poll better than Obama right about now.

(TPB Stirring the pot)

I bet protozoa would be more popular than bush about now...

As a whole biomass, or an individual protozoan?

Well, we're comparing one with one so I reckon it'd be one. Have to gte out the electron microscope so all could see.

zzyzzx says

omeboy says

I'm trying to figure out if you are dishonest or just stupid. I already posted a chart of unemployment which clearly shows the rate started going up in 2007, WHEN BUSH WAS PRESIDENT, then began to spike in 2008, and continuing up through part of Obama's FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE, at which point it REVERSED AND BEGAN GOING DOWN AGAIN. I asked you how you could possibly blame this on Obama, when the causes of the unemployment problem clearly began on Bush's watch. And your only response is to disingenuously post some bullshit graphics that ignore the reality I presented to you? Your charts look like homemade garbage, by the way. The lettering isn't straight and the diagonal lines are pixelated. I wonder where you got those graphics, because they look like something put together in Microsoft Paint by an idiot.

By your warped logic, it would be like me owning a car for 8 years, wrecking the car in the 8th year, then selling it to you, then saying it's your fault because I drove a pristine car for 7 years and you're driving a wrecked car.

If I filled a balloon with farts and let it float away, it would be more popular than Bush was.

Obligatory (and irregardless of your politics, you can use this):

zz does that cartoon refer to the separation of powers?

FortWayne says

zz does that cartoon refer to the separation of powers?

It can refer to anything that you want it to.

The cartoon makes no point worth making.

If a moron represents your district you need to look around you, and check the mirror.

Vicente says

If a moron represents you

See I knew you would come around about Obama.

non-alcoholic beer is more popular than Bush.

sbh says

CaptainShuddup says

I bet this girl would poll better than Obama right about now.

Her answer and grasp of language represent the kind of education the Republicans intend for the future of our public. She, and that ditz from Utah, are clearly Republican bimbos.

Kinda reminds me of how you never saw a sentence you wouldn't prefer as a fragment. Remember Private, a sentence has a verb AND a subject.

I'm not the motherfucker the world is fed up with, so it don't matter.

This shit streaks days are numbered as an anointed Democrat saint, who skis through history on the coat tails of great people who actually accomplished something.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/politics/obama-poll-decline/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Read em and weep, you pantaloon sniffer. There's more details, in just how many polls he's failing in. There's not one single damn poll that he has possitive favors in now.

I guess they didn't POLL Crazyfornia or Patnet.
I'm sure that demographic still has LOADS of bullshit to say about Obama. He is a Nobel peace prize wiener after all. LOL

CaptainShuddup says

Read em and weep, you pantaloon sniffer.

Pantaloons? You must be even older than that picture.

Funny how the only people who talk about Obama in terms of being a "saint", Saviour, or whatever are right-wingers. Not sure where that nonsense came from.

Pantaloons. I love that word!

edvard2 says

Not sure where that nonsense came from.

Does the first 100 days "accomplishments" jubilee, complete with the closest thing in America, to the Pope placing a Crown on a Kings head, that is the Nobel Vanity prize, ring a fucking BELL?

We are still no where closer to prognosticating the football game - what if randomly drew 22 tea partiers vs 22 OWSs. Who would win? What would be the score?

edvard2 says

Funny how the only people who talk about Obama in terms of being a "saint", Saviour, or whatever are right-wingers. Not sure where that nonsense came from.

It's called a strawman argument, and right-wingers LOVE those.

CaptainShuddup says

Does the first 100 days "accomplishments" jubilee, complete with the closest thing in America, to the Pope placing a Crown on a Kings head, that is the Nobel Vanity prize, ring a fucking BELL?

That's basically more of the same talk as indicated before, meaning nobody but right wingers typically mention that sort of baseless talk.

dublin hillz says

what if randomly drew 22 tea partiers vs 22 OWSs. Who would win? What would be the score?

Probably the Tea Partiers. They'd simply drum up some money from their corporate sponsors to actually pay for real football players. Funny how we're talking about football as its entirely appropriate given that the Tea Party is an Astroturf organization...

Vicente says

Pantaloons? You must be even older than that picture.

He's just a big Louis Rene Boquet fan.

CaptainShuddup says

Does the first 100 days "accomplishments" jubilee, complete with the closest thing in America, to the Pope placing a Crown on a Kings head, that is the Nobel Vanity prize, ring a fucking BELL?

Good thing you only have 3 years and 6 months left of ever increasing blood pressure and incoherent ranting about Obama. What to you plan to devote your life to after 2016?

bob...

I am sure their will be another idiot (republican or democrat) to rant about. Although I will say they will have to work really hard to beat the Obama circus.