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Facebook's Dangerous Control over Comments


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2013 Jun 21, 12:15pm   2,223 views  19 comments

by John Bailo   ➕follow (0)   💰tip   ignore  

Have you noticed that more and more blogs and websites are giving up to using Facebook logins and comments?

Great right? You don't have to remember all those usernames? And it's even easier just to comment on a newsfeed.

Until..........

Until you make a comment which (I guess) one person doesn't like, then you get a notice pop up that says something like "you have posted a lot of spam, and general comments that a bunch of people, who shall go nameless, seem to not like, so we are restricting your ability to make comments for 15 days, please re-log in here, thus signing away your ability to make a complain or challenge whatever it is I just said".

Which is what happened to me last night.

What? Who? Where? No mention of which topic or what comment or post or on what news feed. No place for arbitration. Now if it was just Facebook, ok, I'll go to Yahoo! which is what I did. But since Facebook controls comments for so many blogs now, it's not just Facebook.

I am not a paranoid, and I think PRISM is ok, but I have worried about this day ever since I started seeing these Universal Commenting systems. Comments are the one way we can talkback to our television sets, if you will. If they are going to centralize the control of those, and by making an offbeat comment about Sweaters in one place gets you banned from making a comment on a blog in another part of the world, on Hydrogen, then Free Speech is highly challenged by this system.

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1   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jun 21, 12:22pm  

John Bailo says

Have you noticed that more and more blogs and websites are giving up to using Facebook logins and comments?

That's what Disqus did, or as I call them now Disgust.
The change happened in a matter of minutes. I saw my login was hijacked by Facebook. I went straight to my profile and deleted my account. Me setting those CNN clowns straight wasn't worth that.
I'm sure they like it that way. Let the commie bastards have their little Propaganda rag.

2   Homeboy   2013 Jun 21, 2:31pm  

John Bailo says

I am not a paranoid, and I think PRISM is ok, but I have worried about this day ever since I started seeing these Universal Commenting systems. Comments are the one way we can talkback to our television sets, if you will. If they are going to centralize the control of those, and by making an offbeat comment about Sweaters in one place gets you banned from making a comment on a blog in another part of the world, on Hydrogen, then Free Speech is highly challenged by this system.

I don't see how that's a 1st Amendment issue. A blog operator isn't legally required to allow you to publish your own comments on his site. To do so is a privilege, and thus can be taken away at will. Think of it this way: I don't have a 1st Amendment right to paint YOUR car green just because I like green cars.

I also don't see the connection between this and PRISM.

3   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2013 Jun 21, 2:48pm  

i hear everyone at FB is a millionaire now. wonder if it is true?

4   JodyChunder   2013 Jun 21, 3:27pm  

John Bailo says

I think PRISM is ok

You know, this concession somewhat undermines the overall thrust of your beef here. And speaking of beef, the onus is on the individual to remain individual; that is to say, it's up to you not to be lured and corralled into a generic forum for expression which imposes protocols and compliance.

5   swebb   2013 Jun 21, 4:55pm  

JodyChunder says

speaking of beef

Speaking of beef?

The sirloin is the most underrated steak.
The chuck eye is hit or miss, but can be a real bargain on a hit.
The filet is the most overhyped cut of meat, but it is low in fat and if you keep it at medium rare or less it can be a winner.
The flatiron is the best bargain and most people don't even know what it is.
The NY strip is so overrated it doesn't even deserve this mention.
The ribeye steals the show -- takes well to slow cooking and smoking and still tastes pretty good for those assholes who want medium well.

Roasts? Ground beef? I've got that covered, too.

What's your beef?

6   JodyChunder   2013 Jun 21, 5:08pm  

Hamburgers for me, bub

To make a really excellent burger, don't make the mistake of using meat that's too good. Too many people make that mistake. Ground chuck is what you want. Use a hot charcoal fire.

Form your patties by tossing them from hand to hand to keep them fluffy. NEVER pat down the meat, or the hamburger will not be able to breathe while it cooks. Also, don't put any salt or pepper or other seasonings in the meat while it cooks, as it will toughen the meat. Don't even think about onions, breadcrumbs or egg whites. Gyack!! (Never confuse steak tartare with the noble hamburger.)

Use vegetable oil to grease the grill and don't put the patties on the grill until your coals are grey-ish white. Sear the burgers on one side and turn them only once. After turning them, lower the heat to sear them. The result is a hamburger crisp on the outside and tomato-red on the inside.

Serve on a lightly toasted sesame seed/poppy seed bun with thinly sliced bermuda onions, tomato and slivered kosher dill pickles, ketchup and mustard.

Pilsner as accompaniment, in an ice cold glass. If you're really Ritzing it up, a bottle of 1962 Mouton-Rothschild.

7   Homeboy   2013 Jun 21, 5:26pm  

JodyChunder says

The result is a hamburger crisp on the outside and tomato-red on the inside.

Ah, the e-coli burger. Good way to leave the planet.

8   JodyChunder   2013 Jun 21, 6:06pm  

Homeboy says

Ah, the e-coli burger. Good way to leave the planet.

Jody ❤s e-coli.

9   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jun 22, 1:15am  

Homeboy says

Ah, the e-coli burger. Good way to leave the planet.

If you like rare burgers, then you have to grind your own meat. There's a less chance of getting e-coli, if you know what you're doing. Like Steak tar tar you would never, ever make that with store bought ground beef.

10   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jun 22, 3:47am  

I only doctor up cheap $4.99 a pound steaks that I get from one of the ethnic grocery stores.
Otherwise good choice cuts from the butcher, I just sprinkle with a little salt after they reach room temperature and nothing more.

Which by the way, the Butcher shops are half the price than most major chain stores these days. I remember when they were the ones that were super retail.

Like my Dad always said, a good steak doesn't need a Chef.

11   Homeboy   2013 Jun 22, 5:38am  

CaptainShuddup says

If you like rare burgers, then you have to grind your own meat. There's a less chance of getting e-coli, if you know what you're doing. Like Steak tar tar you would never, ever make that with store bought ground beef.

That seems like sound advice.

12   Homeboy   2013 Jun 22, 5:54am  

donjumpsuit says

In the end, here is the worst part.

If you are currently loged into Facebook, all websites with Facebook connect are tracking your activity, whether you login to them or not.

It's not really the end of the world, as who cares anyway.

I never understood why people have any expectation of privacy when using Facebook. When I use Facebook, I specifically use it because it IS a public forum. Why would I expect privacy in a non-private venue? I assume everything I post can be read by anyone, because it can. I would suggest that if people don't want their thoughts known by others, that they not openly publish them in public.

As for using information on consumer habits for purposes of targeted marketing, yeah it's a bit creepy, but certainly not a new thing. You don't think the grocery store is giving you that "free" discount card that you have to swipe at the register just out of the goodness of their heart, do you? And I can go further back to even more egregious practices. A decade or two ago, it was common practice (and I'm sure still is) for phone companies to list your number in a so-called "reverse directory" and sell that information to marketing companies. I was receiving all kinds of odd sales calls, and even calls from collection agencies, obviously based on my address (apparently some deadbeat had lived there before). When I asked the phone company about it, they said I would have to pay THEM a fee if I wanted them to stop selling geographic information about myself to marketing firms. And remember, having a phone is not a choice; it is a necessity.

In the grand scheme of things, does Facebook bother me? Nah.

13   puhim   2013 Jun 22, 7:44am  

Homeboy says

I never understood why people have any expectation of privacy when using Facebook

Privacy is a right! Well it used to be.

Everyone seeks their 15 minutes of fame Andy Warhol Said!

I say BULLSHIT!

I have always said that the more technology we are given that In the future people will drool over 15 minutes of privacy.

DROOL!

14   puhim   2013 Jun 22, 7:51am  

ALWAYS LOGOUT OF FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE OR ANY SERVICE!

SIMPLE!

15   elliemae   2013 Jun 22, 10:33am  

facebook ads suck, too.

I use fb to check on family members, and (surprise, surprise) make snarky comments on other people's posts. But I'm not one to live my life on fb.

16   Homeboy   2013 Jun 22, 12:35pm  

puhim says

Homeboy says

I never understood why people have any expectation of privacy when using Facebook

Privacy is a right! Well it used to be.

I don't think you're getting it. Privacy may very well be a right, but that doesn't mean every situation is private. If I were to give a lecture at a university, I would have to expect that people would hear the words I say, since I would be speaking in a public place with an audience. Likewise, if I post ideas on a public forum on the internet, I would have to expect that other people would see those ideas, since it is a public forum. Are people not understanding the difference between public and private????

17   coriacci1   2013 Jun 23, 1:04am  

swebb says

Speaking of beef?

The sirloin is the most underrated steak.

The chuck eye is hit or miss, but can be a real bargain on a hit.

The filet is the most overhyped cut of meat, but it is low in fat and if you keep it at medium rare or less it can be a winner.

The flatiron is the best bargain and most people don't even know what it is.

The NY strip is so overrated it doesn't even deserve this mention.

The ribeye steals the show -- takes well to slow cooking and smoking and still tastes pretty good for those assholes who want medium well.

Roasts? Ground beef? I've got that covered, too.

What's your beef?

friend,
watch out, you might get ignored for hijacking the thread and commenting off topic

18   Homeboy   2013 Jun 23, 6:38am  

donjumpsuit says

I don't expect anyone to record or use against me anything said in the privacy of my own home, nor do I EVER expect random checks by any outside agency of my home.

This is expected privacy.

Anytime I travel away from my home, on foot, by car, or through the internet, I am now in public, and therefor expect no privacy, but take steps to mitigate my behavior and expectations based on this.

Thank you. At least one person here gets it.

19   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jun 23, 10:18am  

In Russia the book faces you. they have ways to make you talk...

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