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The cops should get a real estate license if they're fired. Then beating up people would just be a normal day at work.

She must have really savaged those poor guys.

The real estate licenses are a good idea, but why "license" realtors, when registering them makes more sense?

Sorry Dan, I usually agree with your positions on security and law but you're being an overwrought drama queen on this one. I watched the tape 3 times and don't see anything even approaching brutal assault. She obviously banged her face when she hit the ground but it's not at all clear if she thrashed around and fell or the cops were putting her to the ground to control her. If they were putting her on the ground it's not at all clear if they lost control or pushed.

I worked for 8 summers through high school and college on a boardwalk in NJ. I've had to control people who were drunk and/or drugged out many times. Sorry to say but it's not all cut and dried politeness the way people who have never wrestled around with wackos believe. Sometimes people get banged up even if you don't mean for it to happen (sometimes you do mean for it to happen). Don't hand me the crap that it was just a women. I'm a big guy, 210 lbs, who played linebacker. I've tangled with 110lb women who were so whacked out that 3 guys my size couldn't control them.

Why aren't you outraged that she was driving in that state? She could have been the one that tboned you and your family at 90 mph. I just don't have any sympathy for her. She was driving drunk on her ass and wanted to tangle with the cops instead of just doing what she was told. Tough titty if she ended up with a black eye. She could have ended up dead and killing innocent people if the cops hadn't stopped her and put up with her shit.

bob2356 says

I watched the tape 3 times and don't see anything even approaching brutal assault.

This, by definition, is a brutal assault.

bob2356 says

Why aren't you outraged that she was driving in that state? She could have been the one that tboned you and your family at 90 mph. I just don't have any sympathy for her.

A drunk driver should be arrested, and lose his or her license, and go to jail. However, a drunk driver should not be raped, tortured, murdered, disfigured, or have any other unjust and illegal punishment inflicted upon her. Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when the second wrong is far more evil.

But if we are comparing the two evils, which is more dangerous, a drunk driver or armed raging police with little to no legal liability?

Arms and legs amputated? Dan, you pussy. Whatever happened to barbaric justice ie. Drawn and quartered?

When the oracle speaks, y'all oughtta listen up. Police are the biggest welfare queen communist dreggs of society at this point. Lying and raping the public is what they are paid to do. Protect and serve. Their masters

I witnessed police brutality once. In New Orleans aorund New Years for the Sugar Bowl.

I don't know what one particular drunkard said about one of the officer's mother, but I watched 6 cops grab someone who was already handcuffed and in the paddiewagon OUT of the paddiewagon, beat the hell out of him with the batons, then taser him.

It was disturbing.

egads101 says

At this point, it is clear that perhaps a majority of officers will lie

You can put a period there. They lie even in fucking traffic court where nothing is on the line for them (and they are getting paid for sitting in court instead of patrolling the streets).

errc says

Lying and raping the public is what they are overpaid to do.

FIFY

bob2356 says

it's not at all clear if she thrashed around and fell or the cops were putting her to the ground to control her. If they were putting her on the ground it's not at all clear if they lost control or pushed.

Hmmm...kinda looks like he threw her to the ground. You really don't think so?

Homeboy says

Hmmm...kinda looks like he threw her to the ground. You really don't think so?

Wow, a reasonable question without teen age girl hystironics.

I said it's not clear. It's not a very good tape, The tape is edited. It's a long way away. She's thrashing around a lot. The tape doesn't show her legs. She could have kicked him in the balls or stomped his foot for all we know. Subduing a fighting drunk isn't all that easy. Dan should try it some time and tell us how it worked out for him.

Cops are guilty of brutality sometimes. I've seen it, I don't condone it. Cops that do it should be charged. I don't see it here. No nightsticks, no taser, no fists. I see cops wrestling around with a drunk. Somehow egads and dan don't consider this resisting arrest. WFT would constitute resisting arrest for Dan? He needs to look up the word resisting. If they have to use force to arrest her then it's resisting arrest. Period. If she got dinged fighting with them then tough shit. If there's a better tape or more to the tape that shows something different then I'm all for seeing it.

Egads is full of shit as usual. No side of the road DUI stop takes hours. No cop in the world slammed anyone to the ground and charged them for politely asking to go to the bathroom. Pure BS.

It can feel like hours when you're at the mercy of some neo nazi roid tard, whom gets of on harassing people.

I've been witness to more police brutality horrors then I care to recount

errc says

I've been witness to more police brutality horrors then I care to recount

Perhaps you should take off your shoes and use your toes.

bob2356 says

errc says

I've been witness to more police brutality horrors then I care to recount

Perhaps you should take off your shoes and use your toes.

Odd that you find police brutality, as comical

I wonder if you would have laughed in the face of the mother of the poor kid I saw police beat to death.

The incident on Aug. 10 occurred when Christina West, 44, was arrested in the early morning of Aug. 10 after crashing her SUV into a house, according to the Tallahassee Democrat .

You DID catch this part of the story did you not? How do you know the injuries were not inflicted by the crash rather than the arresting officers?

bob2356 says

No side of the road DUI stop takes hours.

Not so. DUI stops take as long as the cops want it to take. My husband was coming home from his stuido at 2AM for a 10 min. drive home. Around 3, I realized he wasn't home yet and started calling his cell--no answer. Then I called the cops. It was almost 3 hours before he got home and told me all the BS that went on. They were just toying with him because they had nothing better to do. No arrest, just endless tests and fun.

My brother got pulled over at Treasure Island. A female cop did the tests on him and when she came up empty, she threw his keys in some nearby bushes and told him to have fun finding them. There are some silly people in uniform out there.

errc says

Odd that you find police brutality, as comical

I wonder if you would have laughed in the face of the mother of the poor kid I saw police beat to death.

I don't find police brutality comical at all. It shouldn't happen and I said so. You don't read any better than you count. I do find the idea that you've seen more police brutality than you can count comical. I worked for 8 seasons in a notoriously hard partying jersey shore resort. I watched and/or helped (when they started with us before the cops got there) with drunks/dopers being arrested pretty much every night. I only saw a couple of times where the cops laid on some street justice. Were did you manage to see more police brutality than you can count?

There are a couple of police beating deaths a year at most and you just happened to see one. Pretty convenient. A great thing this internet where you can be anyone you want to be. The BS on this post is piling higher and higher.

rufita11 says

There are some silly people in uniform out there.

Yep there sure are. Some are more psychotic than silly. Like any profession there are misfits who shouldn't be on the job. But it's a damn small minority. Pretty amazing you had a husband and brother both run into misfit cops and be seriously hassled while simply being respectful. I assume you filed a formal complaint. I would have.

You don't read any better than you count. I do find the idea that you've seen more police brutality than you can count comical.

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Well I guess this is pretty comical, seeing as how you're the asshole laughing about police brutality, while criticizing my abilities to both read and count

I said

"I've been witness to more police brutality horrors then I care to recount"

Recount - verb - tell someone about something; give an account of an event or experience.

There are a couple of police beating deaths a year at most and you just happened to see one. Pretty convenient. A great thing this internet where you can be anyone you want to be. The BS on this post is piling higher and higher.

Nice, nice. Call me a liar as well?

Of course it wasn't officially labeled a police beating death. The kid swallowed a bag of cocaine when he got pulled over, cops beat him into a coma, the cocaine dissolved into his stomach and he died.

errc says

Well I guess this is pretty comical, seeing as how you're the asshole laughing about police brutality, while criticizing my abilities to both read and count

I've stated my position 3 times in simple declarative sentences and you still haven't grasped it so yes I'm questioning your reading comprehension.

errc says

"I've been witness to more police brutality horrors then I care to recount"

I'm fully aware of the meaning and usage of the word recount. I'm also fully aware that your sentence implies a substantial number. If it doesn't then best to reword it.

errc says

Nice, nice. Call me a liar as well?

The second version of your story doesn't match the much more dramatic first version at all. Quod erat demonstrandum

Are there many more permutations on your tale left to come?

egads101 says

All that proves to me is you are very stupid, and like to shoot off your mouth!

I am both humbled and honored to be called very stupid by egads. Coming from someone who actually is very stupid and likes to shoot off their mouth I have to consider it a compliment of the highest order. I will mark this day on my calendar and treasure it forever.

egads101 says

All that proves to me is you are very stupid, and like to shoot off your mouth!

He's baaaaaaack!

Great.
Respond to a beating with a public mutilation of limbs.
Two wrongs don't make it right.

Dan8267 says

so that they can never again commit harm to anyone.

Two cops brutally assault a defenseless woman.

If we legalized DUI none of this would ever happen!

i don't know why some people hate cops.

i have never had any problems with them so i have to say that if you suffered brutality from cops you probably did something to deserve it.

the Rodney King beating was clearly provoked. if blacks weren't overreacting emo idiots they would have realized that.

Mark D says

i don't know why some people hate cops.

i have never had any problems with them so i have to say that if you suffered brutality from cops you probably did something to deserve it.

the Rodney King beating was clearly provoked. if blacks weren't overreacting emo idiots they would have realized that.

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQDvYOt_iA

Mark D says

i don't know why some people hate cops.

i have never had any problems with them so i have to say that if you suffered brutality from cops you probably did something to deserve it.

the Rodney King beating was clearly provoked. if blacks weren't overreacting emo idiots they would have realized that.

Simi Valley, heh? We're you on the jury?

Straw Man says

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQDvYOt_iA

black people and NEED to watch this video and learn how to behave in a civilized society.

most police brutalities they "suffered" were brought on to them by themselves.

PockyClipsNow says

If we legalized DUI none of this would ever happen!

In this case driving an SUV into a house would also have to be legalized.

New Renter says

PockyClipsNow says

If we legalized DUI none of this would ever happen!

In this case driving an SUV into a house would also have to be legalized.

Au contraire: if DIU is legalized driving an SUV into a house while drunk should be punished more severely than doing it sober. But if drunk is capable to reach his destination w/o drama he shouldn't be harassed.

New Renter says

How do you know the injuries were not inflicted by the crash rather than the arresting officers?

The injuries are so severe that if she had them from the crash, she wouldn't be taking a sobriety test, she'd be in an ambulance.

SoftShell says

Great.

Respond to a beating with a public mutilation of limbs.

Two wrongs don't make it right.

Dan8267 says

so that they can never again commit harm to anyone.

Two cops brutally assault a defenseless woman.

If it's right to castrate rapist, which is done both physically and chemically in this country, then it's right to amputate those who commit brutal assault so that they physically cannot do that again. It's about protecting the public. You know, like a drone strike, but not lethal and not directed at innocents.

PockyClipsNow says

If we legalized DUI none of this would ever happen!

Actually cops would still commit crimes. Most of them are committed in the name of the war on drugs.

However, the answer to DUIs is personal maglift vehicles that drive themselves on a smart highway. That would end all vehicular accidents and deaths, as well as providing a multitude of advantages over automobiles.

bob2356 says

Cops are guilty of brutality sometimes. I've seen it, I don't condone it. Cops that do it should be charged. I don't see it here. No nightsticks, no taser, no fists. I see cops wrestling around with a drunk. Somehow egads and dan don't consider this resisting arrest.

The fact that fists or weapons were not used does not mean it wasn't police brutality. Asphalt actually makes a pretty good weapon when you slam someone's head against it, as evidenced by the photograph. Obviously she wasn't cooperating 100%, but c'mon, how much force do you REALLY think it takes for two big cops to handcuff a woman?

She sounds like a chronic drunk in denial that finally got caught doing her regular evening routine.

Homeboy says

The fact that fists or weapons were not used does not mean it wasn't police brutality. Asphalt actually makes a pretty good weapon when you slam someone's head against it, as evidenced by the photograph

Isn't anyone reading? Let's try again. I don't think it's clear on the video she was slammed down. I don't see it. Maybe yes maybe no. She could have been slammed down, she could have thrown herself down, or they could have been putting her on the ground and lost control. I don't know, you don't know, and dan287 surely doesn't know. I will reserve judgement until a lot more evidence is presented than a not very clear partial video and a black eye.

Shit happens when people are thrashing around and fighting. It's not cut and dried ivy tower theory. Don't want shit to happen then don't fight. There is no question on the video she is fighting the cops, there was no cooperation at all. This is someone so drunk off her ass she managed to drive into a house.

Homeboy says

how much force do you REALLY think it takes for two big cops to handcuff a woman?

I don't have to think, I've subdued drunk/drugged out seriously belligerant women. I can assure it it can take a hell of a lot of force and I'm 210 and played linebacker. You can get seriously hurt doing it. Try it a few times and let me know how it works out for you.

Homeboy says

Asphalt actually makes a pretty good weapon when you slam someone's head against it

Aha!

rufita11 says

It was almost 3 hours before he got home and told me all the BS that went on. They were just toying with him because they had nothing better to do. No arrest, just endless tests and fun.

"Officer, am I under arrest? Am I free to go?"

My brother got pulled over at Treasure Island. A female cop did the tests on him and when she came up empty, she threw his keys in some nearby bushes and told him to have fun finding them. There are some silly people in uniform out there.

What his keys were doing in her hands? They should've been in his pocket all along.

egads101 says

the oracle feels safer with police in Thailand and the Philippines, than in this country. we have rambo scum with guns, and the full force of lying to back up anything they do.

Yep. Cops here in Paraguay are friendly and kind.

Contrast that with the Duke Nuke 'Em lookin' motherfuckers in the USA.

bob2356 says

Isn't anyone reading? Let's try again. I don't think it's clear on the video she was slammed down. I don't see it.

Yes, I am reading. I read where you wrote: "No nightsticks, no taser, no fists." And I wrote that the fact you don't see those in the video does not mean it wasn't police brutality. I thought that was pretty clear; what is the problem you have with it?