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Is Red State America Seceding?


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2013 Oct 11, 6:14am   32,715 views  145 comments

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http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/is-red-state-america-seceding/

The Montpelier Manifesto says: Lend your name and join the honorable task of rejecting the immoral, corrupt, decaying, dying, failing American Empire and seek its rapid and peaceful dissolution before it takes us all down with it.

Well, that about sums it up doesn't it?

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131   Bigsby   2013 Oct 12, 3:14pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

The economy was screwed over by irrational public inflating home prices with out any reason.

Who was in power when that was happening?

132   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 12, 3:18pm  

Bigsby says

You might also give some consideration to the level of human trafficking and sexual slavery that does continue to exist in the Western world given that you think slavery only occurs elsewhere.

If found in the west.. people involved are prosecuted... in North Africa/India and Middle East its all just part of life.. So Slavery is accepted and not made illegal... you have millions in bondage...
Your in Kuwait, so its no wonder even in Arab nations you have slavery.

Your not going to find this in the USA...

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery in Saudi Arabia - GVnet
gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm‎
Countries in the Middle East have been named as the worst culprits of human ... A modern day slavery case where the victim was forced cook clean and was ..

133   Bigsby   2013 Oct 12, 3:18pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

So Steve Jobs was an education expert as well?

134   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 12, 3:20pm  

Bigsby says

thomaswong.1986 says

The economy was screwed over by irrational public inflating home prices with out any reason.

Who was in power when that was happening?

Who does not matter.. it was up to the individual person to be responsible be it Stock bubble during Clinton years or RE bubble during Bush years. The govt does not control prices regardless where interest rates go.

That should have been obvious looking back 1989 - 1993 as home price declined back to normal levels.

135   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 12, 3:24pm  

Bigsby says

So Steve Jobs was an education expert as well?

Jobs was a pig headed Liberals who had Business sense telling Obama what was going on.

Be it education or be it the anti-business climate promoted by the Liberals. Dems failed.

Since your not in the USA you have no idea !

136   Bigsby   2013 Oct 12, 3:26pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

If found in the west.. people involved are prosecuted... in North Africa/India and Middle East its all just part of life.. So Slavery is accepted and not made illegal... you have millions in bondage...

Your in Kuwait, so its no wonder even in Arab nations you have slavery.

Your not going to find this in the USA...

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery in Saudi Arabia - GVnet

gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm‎

Countries in the Middle East have been named as the worst culprits of human ... A modern day slavery case where the victim was forced cook clean and was ..

What exactly is your point? People take terrible advantage of other human beings all around the world. You and I do it at a lower level when we pick up our cheap clothing from the mall.

And there have been cases of exploitation of domestic workers in the US as well. The US also has a massive problem with human trafficking.

And in which countries is slavery legal? Have you noticed some countries are less advanced than others and the legal framework less enforceable.

And what has any of that got to do with your claims about general working conditions and harking back to the 'good old days' presumably when employers were free to exploit workers as they saw fit.

137   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2013 Oct 12, 3:29pm  

Working with Roberto would be like babysitting a 12 y/o.

138   Bigsby   2013 Oct 12, 3:30pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

or be it the anti-business climate promoted by the Liberals. Dems failed.

Since your not in the USA you have no idea !

I do know that Republicans have been in power in the US quite often in my life time. What were the enormous improvements that they brought to the education system?

And what is this anti-business climate that the Democrats have been fostering over the decades? Both your parties are pro-business. You simply have one party that tries to do a little more for the average Joe than the other.

139   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 12, 3:59pm  

Bigsby says

What were the enormous improvements that they brought to the education system?

Math, Science, Literature, Civics, Economics, Business .... what the did liberals usher during the 1960s ... destroying the education foundations in favor or idiotic studies wasting tax payer money and wasting students study time... end result was a tragic decline real hard skills.

What did the liberals bring to US Education.. Atheist terrorist and Marxist...

140   Bigsby   2013 Oct 12, 4:39pm  

Don't the Republican and Democratic parties from several generations ago (and earlier) bear little resemblance to the current parties? What has your party done to improve education during your life time? Your party has been in power longer than the Democrats since the 70s. Time enough to make improvements to education you would have thought. And yet from what you say...

141   tatupu70   2013 Oct 12, 11:04pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..

Thomas--you must live in an alternate universe. I wish it were possible to send you back in time so you could experience working life back then and compare it to now. That would be enjoyable.

142   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2013 Oct 13, 7:14am  

Call it Crazy says

Where did you run away to pussy??

i'm still waiting for his answer to my question "between a Chihuahua and German Shepherd which is smarter?"

143   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 13, 9:02am  

tatupu70 says

Thomas--you must live in an alternate universe. I wish it were possible to send you back in time so you could experience working life back then and compare it to now. That would be enjoyable.

perhaps you have been ignoring US industrial power in the post WW2 era.

Are you going to deny the creation of industries and therefore raising a large
workforce, increasing incomes and wealth for the middle class.. what is your plan ?

The democrats have failed .. there is no plan to increase the workforce/jobs/careers/incomes ..

You only succeeded in promoting foreign powers to dominate our industries.

144   freak80   2013 Oct 13, 9:55am  

I think this thread is officially dead.

145   CL   2013 Oct 13, 10:04am  

freak80 says

I think this thread is officially dead.

I have one more comment, and then it's done.

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