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thomaswong.1986 says

why would that be any different from what we had even in places like Silicon valley over several decades.. how many back in the days of 80s and 90s during the boom people were in fact working 12-14 days 6 and sometimes 7 days a week over some endless projects or young company ?

I can certainly say working over the past 3 decades in SV working 8 hours 5 days is rather unheard of. Its a real sacrifice over your personal life. that is why tech and SV is not for everyone..

For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.

egads101 says

and my college was 100% paid for by the national science foundation, even my living expenses

I paid my own way.. 100% no loans no handouts not ... I got a job and worked for it.

seems the National Science Foundation really wasted money over you creating another landlord.

tatupu70 says

For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.

who is talking about a start up ? .. im talking about a very mature company.. you will find in many business through out our nations be it the local small business its the same .. long hours.. your own business is your life.. it might be a small pet store, a convenience store , what ever what you call yours.

1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..

thomaswong.1986 says

egads101 says

and my college was 100% paid for by the national science foundation, even my living expenses

I paid my own way.. 100% no loans no handouts not ... I got a job and worked for it.

seems the National Science Foundation really wasted money over you creating another landlord.

It sounds like he could have easily got plenty of well paying jobs with his qualifications but he chose to go into education. I'd say that deserves praise rather than your belittling remarks.

thomaswong.1986 says

tatupu70 says

For you to even make an analogy between working long hours at a start-up and the working conditions of the of the late 1800s/early 1900s is beyond ridiculous. Even you can't be serious.

who is talking about a start up ? .. im talking about a very mature company.. you will find in many business through out our nations be it the local small business its the same .. long hours.. your own business is your life.. it might be a small pet store, a convenience store , what ever what you call yours.

1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..

Indeed! Child labour and slavery should be reintroduced immediately.

egads101 says

mark D, you are a racist asshole, and not very smart based on your writings here.

then explain why people pay me more than they pay you?

before you brag about your 30K crapy houses in the middle of nowhere, one of mine = 10 of yours.

egads101 says

Mark D says

egads101 says

mark D, you are a racist asshole, and not very smart based on your writings here.

then explain why people pay me more than they pay you?

before you brag about your 30K crapy houses in the middle of nowhere, one of mine = 10 of yours.

Sure they do... Sure they do... keep telling yourself that!

How stupid of an asshole do you have to be, to think that proves your point?

You are a worthless fuck. you are a blight on the world, now go meet up with bap33 and blow each other. that is all you are good for!

then why did you have to become a slumlord fixing tenants toilets to supplement your income? don't give me that "i'm an investor" crap. your houses are 30K each. what a joke.

Call it Crazy says

To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....

may be they need some brownies to fill the quotas.

Call it Crazy says

Yeah, I really think he deserves praise for his "qualifications" for these type of "adult" remarks...

I said his decision to go into education was deserving of praise not what you just stated.

Call it Crazy says

To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....

Given the sort of posts being made in this thread and others, it's not Roberto's posts that make me shake my head at the sorry state of some of humanity.

Mark D says

then why did you have to become a slumlord fixing tenants toilets to supplement your income? don't give me that "i'm an investor" crap. your houses are 30K each. what a joke.

What is your problem? Are you saying he made bad investment decisions? That he was wrong to invest his money (and well by the sounds of it) as he saw fit? Is your job so much more worthy than his job as an educator as you seem so willing to belittle what he does?

egads101 says

Mark D says

Call it Crazy says

To think the junior college actually lets him in front and teach the students with this great maturity should make you go hmmmm....

may be they need some brownies to fill the quotas.

I'd love for you to talk to my face that way, you pussy. I'd put your punk little ass in a hospital.

And now lol now the threats of physical violence over words posted on the Internet by randoms. Ultimate fail. Roberto Ribas, U MAD!!!!!

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

Given the sort of posts being made in this thread and others, it's not Roberto's posts that make me shake my head at the sorry state of some of humanity.

Since you are a former resident of CA, that's a typical answer I would expect from you... I guess his type of behavior is accepted on the West Coast...

I've never been a resident of CA. I own a home there. I live and work in Kuwait. I come to America on the visa waiver programme.
And what behaviour of Roberto's is it that is supposedly only accepted on the West Coast? Nothing I've ever seen Roberto post is remotely as bad as the utterly reprehensible racist crap that I see posted in this forum on a regular basis.

Come to L.A and say that to my face coward.

Bigsby says

And what behaviour of Roberto's is it that is supposedly only accepted on the West Coast? Nothing I've ever seen Roberto post is remotely as bad as the utterly reprehensible racist crap that I see posted in this forum on a regular basis.

Roberto is a product of east bay liberal establishment that managed to create lots of lefty zombies who walk around calling everyone racists..

Its all a distraction by the left to cover up their horrible failures over the decades as many other regions have done much better.

drive down 40 miles south into Santa Clara.. its much different here as many have benefited from a robust economy.

Bigsby says

Indeed! Child labour and slavery should be reintroduced immediately.

if you wish, you should check around North Africa to middle east to West/East Asia and you will find
lots of Child Labour and Slavery.

we need not worry about what happened with child labor/slavery since no one is looking to have it here.. once again... idiotic liberals keep bringing up this as a distraction to cover up their dismal failure with managing the economy....

thomaswong.1986 says

if you wish, you should check around North Africa to middle east to West/East Asia and you will find

lots of Child Labour and Slavery.

You were talking about the US, were you not?

thomaswong.1986 says

idiotic liberals keep bringing up this as a distraction to cover up their dismal failure with managing the economy....

Really? The Republicans seem to have done a pretty good job at fucking over the US economy when they've been in power... and judging by what is going on right now, when they're also out of it.

Bigsby says

thomaswong.1986 says

if you wish, you should check around North Africa to middle east to West/East Asia and you will find


lots of Child Labour and Slavery.

You were talking about the US, were you not?

if your so concerned about child welfare and stopping slavery.. go to North Africa or India.

your not going to find it here in the USA or Europe..

thomaswong.1986 says

if your so concerned about child welfare and stopping slavery.. go to North Africa or India.

your not going to find it here in the USA or Europe..

Duh. You're rather missing the point of the implications of what you said in your initial post. Paint me unsurprised. And it was a jokey comment by the way, but thanks for taking it so to heart. You might also give some consideration to the level of human trafficking and sexual slavery that does continue to exist in the Western world given that you think slavery only occurs elsewhere.

Bigsby says

Really? The Republicans seem to have done a pretty good job at fucking over the US economy when they've been in power... and judging by what is going on right now, when they're also out of it.

The economy was screwed over by irrational public inflating home prices with out any reason.
Its no different than the stock bubble we had in late 90s. All due to public irrational exhuberance.

The lliberal govt of Obama has done nothing to promote viable growth economy. All they can talk about is some fiction with now failed green economy and govt spending programs on roads and bridges.

No factories, no worker demand.. no job programs.. All we heard from Obama and Clinton,, is those jobs have left and are not returning.. a sharp meaning to everyone.. By the end of Obama's 8 years... we will be no better off all the while other nations are growing their work force.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-biography-obama_n_1022786.html

(Steve Jobs said) "You're headed for a one-term presidency," he told Obama at the start of their meeting, insisting that the administration needed to be more business-friendly. As an example, Jobs described the ease with which companies can build factories in China compared to the United States, where "regulations and unnecessary costs" make it difficult for them.

Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

thomaswong.1986 says

The economy was screwed over by irrational public inflating home prices with out any reason.

Who was in power when that was happening?

Bigsby says

You might also give some consideration to the level of human trafficking and sexual slavery that does continue to exist in the Western world given that you think slavery only occurs elsewhere.

If found in the west.. people involved are prosecuted... in North Africa/India and Middle East its all just part of life.. So Slavery is accepted and not made illegal... you have millions in bondage...
Your in Kuwait, so its no wonder even in Arab nations you have slavery.

Your not going to find this in the USA...

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery in Saudi Arabia - GVnet
gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm‎
Countries in the Middle East have been named as the worst culprits of human ... A modern day slavery case where the victim was forced cook clean and was ..

thomaswong.1986 says

Jobs also criticized America's education system, saying it was "crippled by union work rules," noted Isaacson. "Until the teachers' unions were broken, there was almost no hope for education reform." Jobs proposed allowing principals to hire and fire teachers based on merit, that schools stay open until 6 p.m. and that they be open 11 months a year.

So Steve Jobs was an education expert as well?

Bigsby says

thomaswong.1986 says

The economy was screwed over by irrational public inflating home prices with out any reason.

Who was in power when that was happening?

Who does not matter.. it was up to the individual person to be responsible be it Stock bubble during Clinton years or RE bubble during Bush years. The govt does not control prices regardless where interest rates go.

That should have been obvious looking back 1989 - 1993 as home price declined back to normal levels.

Bigsby says

So Steve Jobs was an education expert as well?

Jobs was a pig headed Liberals who had Business sense telling Obama what was going on.

Be it education or be it the anti-business climate promoted by the Liberals. Dems failed.

Since your not in the USA you have no idea !

thomaswong.1986 says

If found in the west.. people involved are prosecuted... in North Africa/India and Middle East its all just part of life.. So Slavery is accepted and not made illegal... you have millions in bondage...

Your in Kuwait, so its no wonder even in Arab nations you have slavery.

Your not going to find this in the USA...

Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery in Saudi Arabia - GVnet

gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm‎

Countries in the Middle East have been named as the worst culprits of human ... A modern day slavery case where the victim was forced cook clean and was ..

What exactly is your point? People take terrible advantage of other human beings all around the world. You and I do it at a lower level when we pick up our cheap clothing from the mall.

And there have been cases of exploitation of domestic workers in the US as well. The US also has a massive problem with human trafficking.

And in which countries is slavery legal? Have you noticed some countries are less advanced than others and the legal framework less enforceable.

And what has any of that got to do with your claims about general working conditions and harking back to the 'good old days' presumably when employers were free to exploit workers as they saw fit.

Working with Roberto would be like babysitting a 12 y/o.

thomaswong.1986 says

or be it the anti-business climate promoted by the Liberals. Dems failed.

Since your not in the USA you have no idea !

I do know that Republicans have been in power in the US quite often in my life time. What were the enormous improvements that they brought to the education system?

And what is this anti-business climate that the Democrats have been fostering over the decades? Both your parties are pro-business. You simply have one party that tries to do a little more for the average Joe than the other.

Bigsby says

What were the enormous improvements that they brought to the education system?

Math, Science, Literature, Civics, Economics, Business .... what the did liberals usher during the 1960s ... destroying the education foundations in favor or idiotic studies wasting tax payer money and wasting students study time... end result was a tragic decline real hard skills.

What did the liberals bring to US Education.. Atheist terrorist and Marxist...

Don't the Republican and Democratic parties from several generations ago (and earlier) bear little resemblance to the current parties? What has your party done to improve education during your life time? Your party has been in power longer than the Democrats since the 70s. Time enough to make improvements to education you would have thought. And yet from what you say...

thomaswong.1986 says

1800s cry me a river!!! Your the kind to find all kinds of obstructions to stop this nation from having a booming economy..

Thomas--you must live in an alternate universe. I wish it were possible to send you back in time so you could experience working life back then and compare it to now. That would be enjoyable.

Call it Crazy says

Where did you run away to pussy??

i'm still waiting for his answer to my question "between a Chihuahua and German Shepherd which is smarter?"

tatupu70 says

Thomas--you must live in an alternate universe. I wish it were possible to send you back in time so you could experience working life back then and compare it to now. That would be enjoyable.

perhaps you have been ignoring US industrial power in the post WW2 era.

Are you going to deny the creation of industries and therefore raising a large
workforce, increasing incomes and wealth for the middle class.. what is your plan ?

The democrats have failed .. there is no plan to increase the workforce/jobs/careers/incomes ..

You only succeeded in promoting foreign powers to dominate our industries.

I think this thread is officially dead.

freak80 says

I think this thread is officially dead.

I have one more comment, and then it's done.