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Yeah I bet it was hard to watch especially for you. I can see how it all must be all so confusing to you.
To be watching the best Republican literature, it should have been a book/movie describing Bush's years. How on earth did that Cunt manage to write such a prediction of Barack Obama regime some 60 years later? With accurate descriptions down to the letter?

hmmmmm? Me thinks Obama came in office to be that guy. He is the cheesy bastard that politicized our infrastructure is crumbling like it really is like the railroads and highways were in AS.

I'm sorry Obama gave you the Creeps CL it will get better. Watch a few episodes of Duck Dynasty, it will take your mind off the sheer hopelessness that Obama turned out to be.

Yea I agree Atlas Shrugged was not a good movie but that is not the fault of the book.

The Fountain Head was a pretty good movie. Here is my favorite scene, but if you are a progressive there is no way in hell you will understand it.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/TRXcaWVr_uI

indigenous says

Here is my favorite scene, but if you are a progressive there is no way in hell you will understand it.

When I was a Glibertopian I liked that scene too. Now I understand this EMPLOYEE who merely PLANNED the structure decided to VIOLENTLY impose his own views on the owners and real builders and destroy it. Despicable!

He should have been at minimum obligated to pay damages.

But Randists are sociopaths unable to recognize their own crimes.

Vicente says

When I was a Glibertopian

What makes you think you are not one now?

He was not an employee...

It was a metaphor, not to mention that damages are a two way street.

If P90-X is so gosh-darned awesome, how is it that he has stick legs?

Isn't the point of any full-body workout that you beat the hell out of your lower body as well as the truck and arms?

Gary Cooper was a little wooden here. Plus, he raped that chick in the Quarry; not cool. It had a few moments, but overall, a humorless, not-great film.

To be fair, 1984's Body Double, another Rand adaptation, was far superior.

Rand's philosophy says that selfishness is good and moral and that unregulated Laissez-faire Capitalism is the answer to everything.

It's not hard to understand why this is popular with the plutocrats and corporations who wish to impose the tyranny of the corporation on us.

marcus says

Rand's philosophy says that selfishness is good and moral and that unregulated Laissez-faire Capitalism is the answer to everything.

Yes it would make government workers superfluous.

I thought you had me on the ignore list?

Tax law is not relevant to anything presented in anyone's
argument. You cling to it because you're a coward and don't
want to talk about anything relevant.

WTF he was not an employee , the contract was breached, he had rights and it was a metaphor.

Like i said this stuff is over your head...

Every important concept that shaped our industrialism and Technology was made by a creator.

Schockley - the Transistor
Ford - the Assembly line
Grove - IC Microelectronics
Einstein - Photoelectric effect (effects all tech, vision, band theory)
Tesla - AC power generation.
Hughes - Modern AC

Its true that many suffered for their vision.

Tesla invented, but had to deal with Morgan
Hughes pioneered engines, rivetless fuselages (got harrassed for this this)
Einsteins theory was so visionary that he did not accepted to a Swiss Physics group, and had to work for the patent office.

I have been granted a few patents and was bullied and threaten in this by my senior management.

The USA used to embrace innovation, and the USA became wealthy. Now we are run by admins, Lawyers and our R&D and manufacturing fell from 22% in 1980 to about 8% in 2012.

Rand lived near the time of Lenin and her family was harrassed. Anyone who lived thru such a political change should try to comment on the validity of a new communist uprizing and effects on the general populace.

There are other books on this subject - Montesquie, Rosseau, and others that say similar things.

jazz music says

NY Times reported her estate as being worth $500,000 at her death in 1982. An online inflation calculator says that's worth $1.2M today. Most people would be thrilled if they were told they'd be worth that much in retirement

I'd be depressed as hell. You can only draw 4% of your portfolio each year if you want it to last indefinitely long and $48K a year doesn't even break the US median household income.

indigenous says

Architects are professionals who are contracted.

So, if you hire a electrician to install recessed lighting, then after the first consultation and the first day of installation, you decide to have another electrician revamp his plan, does the first electrician have a right to bust in your house and rip out all the work in a fit of "Artistic Pique?"

No. You'd sue his ass from here to next Tuesday and no jury would deny you full damages and then some. Plus criminal charges for vandalism/criminal mischief and trespassing, at least.

Wanting to destroy something because it's not mine owns plans anymore is a toddler-esque impulse that society shouldn't be endorsing.

thunderlips11 says

Wanting to destroy something because it's not mine owns plans anymore is a toddler-esque impulse that society shouldn't be endorsing

Do you know what a metaphor is?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Rand could have made the point more dramatically with a story of a brilliant physicist taking a break for lunch and being told pepperoni is only available after 5 PM, then in a fit of righteous rage, inventing a bomb to blow up the sun to punish a world that ruins his lunch and building a hut on the moon to watch all the assholes freeze the fuck to death.

That sounds more like Asimov's style.

Solaria describes perfectly the fate of Galt's Gulch after a few thousand years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaria

indigenous says

Do you know what a metaphor is?

Yes.

Roarke was contracted to design a building. Changes were made to his plan. He then had a temper tantrum that is wasn't exactly the way he wanted it.

Let me know what I got wrong.

thunderlips11 says

ndigenous says

Do you know what a metaphor is?

Yes.

Roarke was contracted to design a building. Changes were made to his plan. To then blow up the finished product is called a "Temper Tantrum".

Let me know what I got wrong.

In your first rendition where you stated : "Tough shit for him, he got paid."

He did not get paid, you realized this so deleted it in this post.

What is a metaphor?

indigenous says

In your first rendition where you stated : "Tough shit for him, he got paid."

He did not get paid, you realized this so deleted it in this post.

What is a metaphor?

It's true that I modified the post based on what I remember (20+ years ago) from reading the book.

Conceding that, my core point about toddler-esque behavior still stands:

An electrician friend agrees to design a recessed lighting system for me, as long as I go with his design. About halfway to completion, I make modifications. Can he then barge into my home and rip out the entire finished project because I deviated from his design?

It would still be a temper tantrum on his part.

thunderlips11 says

Conceding that, my core point about toddler-esque behavior still stands:

What is a metaphor?

indigenous says

What is a metaphor?

Who is John Galt? :)

That movie was the absolute worst. I can still taste the vomit, and I only watched part of it. I only hope it's my own vomit.

jazz music says

Daily Koz has a great write up on Ayn Rand that sets aside the hypocrisy to
focus instead on the failed ideology.

How can it be a failed ideology when nobody has ever really tried it because of the stupidity of it?

And, that ideology has certain knowns or elements that are beneficial here in the US, if it does fail. Just like her fall-back position of SS and Medicare that she came to rely on.

A high-wire act with a big net isn't a show of skill or bravery.