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Strategist says

How else would you explain the rise in obesity levels?

Are you suggesting the only way to get fat is to eat at McDonald's?

really? really? Really!!!

OK let's break it down, for more than half it's their genes, they have a slow metabolism and eating nothing but beans and rice, makes them fat, I just point to the Latino and Southern black population for that. Then there's some who works a sedentary job, then there's those like Jet Li who have a thyroid condition.
And the lowest portion is those who are just gluttons and just eat for the sake of eating, even though they know it's bad for them.

How come I never see any fat people in McDonald's they all look normal to me? It sure would seem to me that if MD and fast food was all you guys say it is, then the place should be full of Morbidly obese people. I mean real Obese people not the Hollywood Liberal narrative of "anyone who doesn't have exposed ribcage are Obese" "Obese".

I will get in my car, and drive to at least 5 McDonald's locations right now, and take a wide angle picture so we can see all of the patrons, so we can count the Obese people in them. I am betting that it will be far less than 10% of the patrons.

CaptainShuddup says

Are you suggesting the only way to get fat is to eat at McDonald's?

really? really? Really!!!

Where did i suggest that? I'm saying eating fried food with lots of saturated fat and sugars is what causes obesity. Fast food places tend to serve more of that, which results in obesity.
Genes can influence obesity, but the primary cause is still unhealthy foods. The genes we carry are still the same as the genes 2 generations ago, but people then were pretty skinny, no where close to the obesity levels we have today.
Ask yourself....if it was primarily genes, how come you don't gain weight eating apples, oranges and bananas?
How come Clinton suddenly started losing weight? He still carries the same genes, right?

Oh God.....Excuse me, I need to go to the bathroom to throw up.

Does every fat person in the US down 42 ounce sodas and 6 pound hamburgers?

And every gay person is a pedophile and a sodomite, and every republican is a racist, and every liberal is card carrying communist, and it just goes on and on. We're represented by the lowest common denominator, welcome to 44.

Strategist says

How come Clinton suddenly started losing weight? He still carries the same genes, right?

Worrying about the possibility of treason or UN tribunals will stress war criminals out.

CaptainShuddup says

Does every fat person in the US down 42 ounce sodas and 6 pound hamburgers?

Course not.
So explain how Clinton lost weight when he switched to a plant based diet.

You might be 44, but the secret to life, the universe, and everything is 42!
Just another reference you won't get cap'n, since you don't read ...

CaptainShuddup says

Strategist says

How come Clinton suddenly started losing weight? He still carries the same genes, right?

Worrying about the possibility of treason or UN tribunals will stress war criminals out.

Nope!

Oh you meant the one in the skirt?

Bill was never Fat in the first place, well not before the Liberals placed the Fat narrative to encompass anyone who can't hold the yoga lotus pose for 8 hours.

He had a Heart Attack and was instructed to watch what he eats. Losing weight is a side effect for any Heart attack survivor.

But were you suggesting that fastfood was all Bill ever ate, or was that just the coat tail that was used to be the poster child of all of the bad food in our food supply that will kill you. 80% of which our own government is responsible for putting out there in the first place. But gee, ah, you know if we can just bitch about a fucking hamburger and a french fry, and outlaw those ugly ungawdly disgusting big gulp cups, because they annoy thin people, the that would take lieu of removing harmful chemicals and food processing processes and technique, or the millions of gallons that the US not only subsidizes, but then gives food processors incentives to consume HFCS and hide it in virtually every food product. That is unless you pay a premium at Wholefoods to or some brand that advertises their food are chemical, HFCS, Nitrates and sodium free, and you'll pay a huge premium to not have those items added to your food. My god did I just say that? We're fucking paying more to NOT have our food poisoned and you're bitching about a fucking Hamburger and a goddamn french fry.

My god man pull your self together, have you totally taken leave of all of your senses?

Call it Crazy says

CaptainShuddup says

Does every fat person in the US down 42 ounce sodas and 6 pound hamburgers?

No, usually twice that amount....

Yeah, they will down the whole thing, and then fill up again for one on the road.
Next day they will think the cheap scale made in China is wrong.

The biggest fatties I have every seen were always at the Chinese buffett.

Strategist says

No, usually twice that amount....

Yeah, they will down the whole thing, and then fill up again for one on the road.

Next day they will think the cheap scale made in China is wrong.

I have a friend who swigs on a 2 liter Diet C affine Free Coke all day long. He goes through an easy one and half to two bottles a day, or three to four liters.

I've never seen him once drink a big gulp though. Nor is he obese, though he eats only what he can microwave or what he buys on the streets. i.e Cheap available junk food.

Also you guys assume that everyone at the soda fountain is drinking a sugar drink, and not a diet variety.

And who in the hell sits in Circle K all fucking day, making notations commentaries of the various lard asses bellying up to the fountain trough? I mean you would think, that if that was my job, and I had to do it for the Huffington post, you better bet your ass, I'll do it the Orlando Florida Turnpike exit ramp, mega service station and barfatorium. Where I'd have the highest volume of people, many of which who work sedentary jobs to even be able to afford such a get away with their family.

Damn sure wouldn't pick the Drink fountain at the Panera next to the You-Fit gym. Not unless I wanted to get fired for my miserable failure to frame the narrative.

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Call it Crazy says

How many times have you seen someone get a diet Coke with their triple bacon cheeseburgers and Super size fries

THat's an old narrative, nobody can afford the "Super Size" treatment anymore, that's an "upgrade" to a "premium" service, you'll pay full retail for that. McDonald's no longer subsidizes gluttony. You'll pay well over $12.00 any fast food joint if you buy a premium sandwich, largest fries, largest drink.

While they have a deal on their board for the Value meal, that is just regular sizes only. If you want large portions on the sodas and the drinks, they then ring you up full retail price for those items.

The fat people, that scares you guys, is the Gluttonous fatty fat fuck the fat fucker. He has one objective, lots of food, and cheap, so that he can buy lots more if this lot wasn't enough. They aren't keen on high prices.

besides they don't even sale Triple Cheese burgers anymore they outlawed them after Timmy Wilder, that autistic kid from California put his eye out while playing with one.

But let's look at the facts.

Here's Burger King's standard beef product fare offerings.
One just a la carte, and the other comes with the soup and the nuts.

Whopper $3.49

Whopper - Meal $5.79

Steak & White Cheddar $8.79

Iced Green Tea Regular $2.49
Mac & Cheese Small $4.99

I've actually had both, I mean the sandwich is a nubwhich at best, you'll want to get a salad or a side, they don't have any french fries. But you probably don't want to embarrass your self by asking.
So yeah, that lunch/ snack, will set you back $16.27 fucking dollars, and that's not even including tax and tip.

I drink coffee in the morning (stevia + whole milk), water all day, and a couple beers in the evening. I'm in decent shape, no more than 5-10 pounds overweight. I eat a lot of fruit and veggies. I don't eat mcdonalds

CaptainShuddup says

Also you guys assume that everyone at the soda fountain is drinking a sugar drink, and not a diet variety.

I don't understand you defending junk food so adamantly. If you like it, eat it. It's a free country. But trying to convince the world that too much junk food does no harm is just ridiculous.
I like what a doctor on TV said...."Eat more of what's good for you, and less of what's bad for you." Best advice I ever had.

John Bailo says

So how can it be that the people who eat all this junk food, are also muscular, strong and wiry enough to cause havoc?

WHAT did you just say? Repeat that clearly, while I open my can of whoopass.

I'm not defending fast food, I'm just pointing out the irony is that you guys bitch about fast food while denying that more healthful food and choices is unfordable for most people's budget, and I really do mean most people. And especially those millions upon millions in the US who get a SNAP card right now today, if for what ever reason and the government didn't put more money on those cards, what unspeakable crimes these people would commit just to eat.

Work on making food safe to eat and affordable. I could totally see bitch ing about Burger King if there was a cohesive action in this country that was actually working to improve the quality of food that is eaten in this country. That didn't entail grabbing people by the back of the hair and rubbing their noeses into their opinion, about just what food can be served and by whom, and just exactly what dimensions they may not go past in dispensing out said product.

But in the mean time food is just as unhealthful and as ever, you're just singling out one sec in the food chain. I don't get it.
That Burger King Whopper meal has no less fat than the meal I got at Panera bread. That set me back over $16 bucks.
And actually with that Mac and Cheese it was actually more in fat and calories.

It's just sounds so petty and childish to me, attacking a few brands of fast food while not doing dick all about the actual food chain that those very few fast food chains represent.
Eating healthy shouldn't be a premium, especially not if the Government is going to regulate and dictate on what they consider healthy or not.

That guy isn't actually eating that burger, he's actually behind the counter, posing for the Huffington post photographer who had an assignment to find a fat person eating a huge burger. He couldn't find one, everyone looked normal to him, so he asked that guy behind the counter to pose with the behemoth. True'er story bro.

Note the three other cups on the serving tray.

I'm not defending fast food, I'm just pointing out the irony is that you guys bitch about fast food while denying that more healthful food and choices is unfordable for most people's budget, and I really do mean most people.

Let's see:

A package of salad greens $2.
A pound of chicken is $3.
A pound of tomatoes is $1.50
A shallot is $0.50
A spritz of olive oil and vinegar $0.20 (or free if using a leftover packet)

That's a healthy dinner salad for two. For $7.20

On sale or at discount stores I imagine prices would be even lower

On occasion they do count.New Renter says

rufita11 says

Do you actually know any real gangsters or thugs?

I know some cops, do they count?

CaptainShuddup says

It's just sounds so petty and childish to me, attacking a few brands of fast food while not doing dick all about the actual food chain that those very few fast food chains represent.

Eating healthy shouldn't be a premium, especially not if the Government is going to regulate and dictate on what they consider healthy or not.

No brands were attacked. Unhealthy food was attacked.
I eat McDonalds...mostly the oatmeal on some days, but my breakfast is normally coffee and a couple of fruits and that's it. Occasionally i'll eat junk food, but very rarely.
Your excuse seems to be that junk food is cheap so it's ok to eat it. Apples at Walmart cost $1.17lb. About $0.60 per apple, while a banana is about $0.20.
If anything is too expensive, it's McDonalds.
I'm not trying to dictate here, I'm just debating why we have an obesity epidemic.

CaptainShuddup says

That guy isn't actually eating that burger

He didn't get that way eating carrots you know.
That's just an appetizer.

Strategist says

I'm just debating why we have an obesity epidemic.

Partly DNA... some foods will blow up people while have no effect on others. Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders are highly sensitive to Western foods and will gain rapid weight and illness, vs normal traditional diets.

The Obesity Epidemic in the Pacific Islands - Maxwell School
www.maxwell.syr.edu/uploadedFiles/moynihan/dst/curtis5.pdf‎
physical activity and a dependence on a Western diet. The traditional foods of ... million square miles, from Midway Island (in the Hawaiian chain) in the North to ...

Strategist says

Apples at Walmart cost $1.17lb

a 12 oz can of frozen concentrate apple juice - just juice, no HFCS - runs about $0.78 to make 48oz of juice. That's four 12 oz drinks, the same size as a can of soda for about the same price as Walmart generic soda.

CaptainShuddup says

How come I never see any fat people in McDonald's they all look normal to me?

Might be because they're simply fearful of public scorn, tacit or otherwise, opting to procure their victuals through the drive-thru instead. It's lamentable, because I love love love buxom women -- what most assholes call fat.

And a lot of what you said is correct. A tendency toward huskiness (or again, fat, for the less sensitive) is largely genetic. For instance, all of the men on the Chunder side of the family were naturally barrel chested (think Ernest Borgnine). Up until my middle forties, when I became rich and began eating only lobster three Xs a day, I ate like a monster: my breakfastes consisted of an egg and ham sandwich (four or five eggs, min) with some Tums crumbled over top and a gallon of black coffee (with salt) that I'd nip at throughout the day. Lunch took me through about three cans of peaches, a glass of buttermilk with 1/10" layer of pepper on top and a potted meat sandwich (lots of pickles). Dinner consisted of any number of glorious victuals, but Fridays was always a tenderloin steak, french fries w/ gravy and a couple of shrimp cocktails alongside a few well-built drinks. I usually ate a can of Planters or a few hostess pies on the way home, too. That's every week of my life, the whole time during which, I took a size 32 in Levis.

Either genetics were my friend, Levi was a liar, or even the bad stuff was less bad in some way back then. (Granted, my arterial walls are likely slathered with a few nice layers of hard plaque up and down em.)

JodyChunder says

Genetics were my friend. (Granted, my arterial walls are likely slathered with a few nice layers of hard plaque up and down em.)

I guess the blessing of getting fat easily is that you know when you have to quit eating crap and start piling on the greens, clean protein and exercise.

rufita11 says

I guess the blessing of getting fat easily is that you know when you have to quit eating crap and start piling on the greens, clean protein and exercise.

I was always hustling back then, but not what you'd call exercise. I didn't mess with that jazz until I was well into my 50's, and started going for weighted middle-distance runs through the morongo valley (at night), and I only did that for my ticker.

Call it Crazy says

Maybe because he isn't looking close enough....

*

That's just mean.

Besides, those are what you call outliers.

thomaswong.1986 says

Strategist says

I'm just debating why we have an obesity epidemic.

Partly DNA... some foods will blow up people while have no effect on others. Hawaiians/Pacific Islanders are highly sensitive to Western foods and will gain rapid weight and illness, vs normal traditional diets.

The Obesity Epidemic in the Pacific Islands - Maxwell School

www.maxwell.syr.edu/uploadedFiles/moynihan/dst/curtis5.pdf‎

physical activity and a dependence on a Western diet. The traditional foods of ... million square miles, from Midway Island (in the Hawaiian chain) in the North to ...

This is true. Perfect posting Thomas.
I remember seeing a documentary on TV a few years ago about the high levels of diabetes and obesity among Native Americans. Over the milleniums they had evolved on foods like corn meat dairy fruits etc., but now the junk food which their bodies were not designed to handle is causing all the problems they now face.
The solution is simple.....don't eat junk food. Eat what your body was designed to eat....natural foods.

The parents of those obese kids need to be charged with child abuse.

Call it Crazy says

Look at the first picture.... Those are today's "norm"....

Ok, I'm looking at the first picture...I don't see any one in the photo that I'd call obese. Just a mob of lost souls with boring shirts and hideous footwear. Can't blame old MacDonald for that.

I guess you don't get out much....

To McDonald's, no. I'm out-of-touch.

Strategist says

This is true. Perfect posting Thomas.

I remember seeing a documentary on TV a few years ago about the high levels of diabetes and obesity among Native Americans. Over the milleniums they had evolved on foods like corn meat dairy fruits etc., but now the junk food which their bodies were not designed to handle is causing all the problems they now face.

The solution is simple.....don't eat junk food. Eat what your body was designed to eat....natural foods.

The problem of course with that idea is EVERY ethnic group was hit with cheap, high sugar, high fat food within a few decades of each other.

New Renter says

A package of salad greens $2.

A pound of chicken is $3.

A pound of tomatoes is $1.50

A shallot is $0.50

A spritz of olive oil and vinegar $0.20 (or free if using a leftover packet)

OK Tinker Bell, just where are you buying a spritz of Olive for .20 cents? And who in the hell sells a single pound of chicken?

That bottle of EVO will set you back at least $8.00 for a the small bottle. And the best you might find is a split chicken breast that was pumped full of water, and weighs about 2.5 lbs at $2.69 on sale.

And salad greens are 2 for $4 sometimes on sale, after the stalks of the lettuce have started turning brown, and the leafs are starting to wilt. Otherwise that 10oz package of which 2oz is salad dressing cost $3.69 each. And in the poorer Publix stores they are never on sale.

You don't buy a single shallot they normally come about three to four in a nylon net pack for about $3.99.

Strategist says

The solution is simple.....don't eat junk food. Eat what your body was designed to eat....natural foods.

Easy to say, except the junk is being designed by food scientists to be ultra enticing, marketed by gargantuan sophisticated targeted marketing campaigns, and is sold in insane portions at deceptively cheap prices.
On the other side, self restraint and good ol' common sense.
Hardly an even match.
I posted it before but I found this BBC documentary very enlightening:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/E6nGlLUBkOQ

CaptainShuddup says

OK Tinker Bell, just where are you buying a spritz of Olive for .20 cents? And who in the hell sells a single pound of chicken?
That bottle of EVO will set you back at least $8.00 for a the small bottle. And the best you might find is a split chicken breast that was pumped full of water, and weighs about 2.5 lbs at $2.69 on sale.

Who said to buy just ONE spritz or pound of chicken at a time? Even non-homeless poor people will have a refrigerator and freezer. Buy 3-4 lbs at a time in the economy pack. I've seen boneless chicken breast as low as $0.99/lb on clearance. Yes you need to use or freeze it THAT DAY but if you follow those directions its perfectly fine. Pumped full of water? Even so 1 lb of waterlogged chicken is still enough to feed two in a salad.

EVO runs $6/L around here. That's at LEAST 30 spritzes. More like 100

CaptainShuddup says

And salad greens are 2 for $4 sometimes on sale, after the stalks of the lettuce have started turning brown, and the leafs are starting to wilt. Otherwise that 10oz package of which 2oz is salad dressing cost $3.69 each. And in the poorer Publix stores they are never on sale.

You really should try shopping somewhere other than Publix. I shop at many different places and buy what's on sale. Its not nearly as difficult to find cheap yet healthy food as you claim.

CaptainShuddup says

You don't buy a single shallot they normally come about three to four in a nylon net pack for about $3.99.

I do. I paid $0.50 for a single shallot just last night at Safeway.

Some of the responsibility is finally being correctly assigned to these "Men Who Made Us Fat". The American people didn't all of a sudden get lazy 40 years ago, their food was transformed, without their knowledge or consent, into a toxic diabetes, heart disease and cancer causing disaster.
“30-40 percent of healthcare expenditures in the USA go to help address issues that are closely tied to the excess consumption of sugar.” (Credit Suisse Report: “Sugar: Consumption At A Crossroads," Sept. 2013) In Forbes Magazine, contributor Dan Monroe summarized, “Basically, the U.S. healthcare system spends about $1 trillion per year (and possibly more) fighting the effects of excess sugar consumption.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2013/10/27/sugar-linked-to-1-trillion-in-u-s-healthcare-spending/

sbh says

Grocery store + buy + cook + eat = waaay better.

Just not convenient.

its not what you eat that makes you FAT ! its how much, how often and what time of the day. I can lose weight eating ice cream all day or even hamburgers, it will all depend on how much of it goes down my gullet and hopefully not before bedtime.

casandra says

its not what you eat that makes you FAT ! its how much, how often and what time of the day. I can lose weight eating ice cream all day or even hamburgers, it will all depend on how much of it goes down my gullet and hopefully not before bedtime.

Or if you're bulimic.

I hear that's a great way to eat whatever you want and still lose weight!

Why are Americans so fat?

"I can't eat meat (420 calories), it'll make me fat.

I'll just have this 8-grain Roll (400 cal.) with margarine (200 calories)."

People are programmed to think meat and fat is just bad. They don't realize that the "Whole Grain Healthy Alternative" is 50% higher in calories and spikes (then crashes) their blood sugar.

They don't realize there's about as much calories in the bun than in the burger, or that a Frappuchino is a Meal Replacement clocking in at about 500 calories.