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CaptainShuddup says

SO wait a minute, now the Civil War was about Gay rights?

Are you really so dumb as to have missed the point of that graph and why I included it?

The graph shows that the younger generations are less bigoted and more liberal than the older generations. Although geography still has a strong influence, the difference due to generation is even stronger as evident by the fact that the youngest generation in the South is more liberal than the oldest generation in the North.

This is a very good thing. It means that the changes in political attitudes are enormous and that eventually the South will be peopled entirely by liberals. We liberals are going to win and its going to happen within the next few generations. Then, and only then, will the South be able to leave its vile history in the past.

And this is what scares the shit out of social conservatives like you.

I guess if one were to make a generalized statement when it comes to either liberal or conservative voters, well its really easy to take a look at the track records of both to see where either stood when it came to social issues. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to easily see which group was historically wrong on most issues in this area.

Dan8267 says

Are you really so dumb as to have missed the point of that graph and why I included it?

No what was the point of injecting an irrelevant chart in a discussion about the Civil war being solely about the Southerns were racist slave owners, who didn't want the Northern Civil rights activist to take them away from them. Other than to prove my point of you posting this thread in the first place.

Oh did you hear yesterday, Chick-Fil-A reunited a run away teen with her parents? Because that's what Chick-Fil-A does, they belive in keeping families together.

CaptainShuddup says

irrelevant chart

The chart's not irrelevant. Gay rights, women's rights, minority right's, etc. are all the same thing: human and civil rights. The marriage equality movement today is the natural next step in the progression to greater humanity and equality under law that started with ending slavery, continued with the Progressive Movement, and the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s. The fact that you cannot see the connection is a large part of your problem.

Those rights are only the corner stone of the Liberal strategy.
Blacks are nothing but political manikins which the Liberal use as window dressing to frame their narrative and get asses elected.

That is why Liberals Loathe any uppity black business man talking GOP talking points, about hard work and success. And don't blame the GOP White man for their woes. It just defiles, and undermines everything they work so hard to accomplish. Do you have any idea how fucking hard it is to create a whole goddamn race of Political Patsies?

You can't have them going off and making something of them selves with out the White Liberal's dictating which political niche they fill.

CaptainShuddup says

Well fucking of course You DON'T, or your party would be obsolete.

Independents don't have a party. We have the obligation of thinking for ourselves. You party is rapidly becoming obsolete however. Seeing you as representative I can see why.

You're being a bigot by calling me a bigot as I've noted on several times the biggest travesty of having these conversations with you clowns. I would like to point out, I've never once had to defend my racial views to a black person. This argument is only something White SFBA Liberals who have never left the confines of their Starbucks enclave, and ventured anywhere near the areas they like to think fall under their dominion.

They think all other races are here to amuse them and enrich their artistic and political aspirations. They don't believe for one fucking second the shit they say.

Oh yeah and throw in the tea party, because you would know all about that too, aye? Racist ungrateful little prick.

CaptainShuddup says

Those rights are only the corner stone of the Liberal strategy.

Blacks are nothing but political manikins which the Liberal use as window dressing to frame their narrative and get asses elected.

Again, you are projecting your biases on liberals. Actual liberals in the real world resemble nothing you say about them.

I'm a liberal and I have no interest in ever running for office. That alone discredits your accusations.

sbh says

CaptainBigot thinks standing up for the rights of black people is racism against white people.

That would be consistent with his stance on homosexuality.

Slavery as an issue took English support away from the south. England's imperial hegemony was safer with a fractured American government, squabbling between each other. Until the Emancipation Proclamation had been issued, England had supplied the south with many of its muskets and allowed the south to build and outfit their commerce raiders in England and then sail them back from English ports. Since England had abolished slavery decades before, it would have been diplomatically hypocritical for them to support a government that's fighting to maintain and further slavery. Lincoln might have been against slavery, personally, but it was also a brilliant foreign policy move.