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How I can tell Obama does not even have good intentions as president
2014 Mar 11, 9:06am 1,642 views 13 comments
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Bellingham Bill
2014 Mar 11, 10:32am
if he were a good man, a decent human being with humanity's interest at heart,
what he does or does not do wrt NSA is not going to change the course of history.
but it does play into domestic politics. The Deep State loves attacking their Commanders in Chief for failing to give them free rein.
They blame Truman for not nuking China when we had the chance, LBJ for not bombing Hanoi and ending the war in '65, Carter for the failed Iran rescue, Clinton for the rise of AQ and 9/11, and they'd blame Obama for anything bad that happened should he cut off the NSA's ability to spy on Americans.
Like Goering said in postwar captivity, all people are pretty stupid about 'national security' and are easily manipulated by selective information and attacking probity as weakness.
Just like being 'tough on crime' is crucial to any politician, so is being pro natsec state.
But I agree that Feinstein should be primaried out. She's a terrible person, pretty much a card-carrying DINO, what a moderate Republican would have been in the 60s or 70s.
'course, so is Obama.
The Deep State loves attacking their Commanders in Chief for failing to give them free rein.
What the hell is the deep state?
For our government to treat such a hero as a terrorist and criminal is a despicable and dishonorable act that reflects poorly on our nation and its people who tolerate such injustice. In this mid-term election year, I hope our citizens send a message to Washington, D.C. by voting out any politician who ever called Snowden a terrorist, a traitor, or a criminal. Let them know there are consequences for being on the wrong side of history.
Bad news for you, at least 90% of the voters just doesn't care enough to be bothered to look at their elected officials voting record at all. Whoever has the best ads is their man.
Bellingham Bill
2014 Mar 11, 11:47am
^ first vid I got from Netflix.
Enjoyable.
(I was too young for all the great 70s movies)
What the hell is the deep state?
It's, like, The Establishment, Man.
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogfeb14/dollar-deep-state2-14.html
Bellingham Bill
2014 Mar 12, 8:00am
"deep state" is a good term for my general impression of the "career" apparatchiks in federal national security.
just because administrations change doesn't mean these guys' jobs or mission statements change.
We're spending maybe $100B/yr or so on intelligence in all nooks and crannies.
At $500,000/yr per head that's 200,000 people doing shit. If Obama had a 1 minute meeting with each that'd take him until around now to see everyone.
Or say the low level is organized in cells of ~20. There'd be 10,000 workgroups. With a 1/5 branching factor there'd be 2000 manager managers, 400 next-level managers, 80 upper level, and 16 top-level big cheeses who deal with the Cabinet directly.
It's that middle group that have the interesting power. They direct what actually gets done below them at the nuts and bolts level, and manage upwards too as to what's expected from them.
Nothing they do is visible from outside the black box of the natsec state.
lostand confused
2014 Mar 12, 8:07am
Dianne Fienstein, Champion of the NSA spying on ordinary Americans , is now mad that the CIA is spying on congress/her. What a hypocrite.
justme
2014 Mar 12, 8:14am
Yes, I was surprised that Dianne Feinstein was on the telly the other day complaining about the CIA spying domestically. It took the CIA spying on HER to make her take action.
Welcome to the club, Dianne. Are you going to be different from now on?
Dan8267
2014 Mar 12, 9:05am
Dianne Fienstein, Champion of the NSA spying on ordinary Americans , is now mad that the CIA is spying on congress/her. What a hypocrite.
And a stupid one at that. It is obvious that any spying effort that encompasses all Americans will get incriminating evidence on members of Congress and their families, especially when the spying agency is using two and three degrees of connection.
Dianne Fienstein, Champion of the NSA spying on ordinary Americans , is now mad that the CIA is spying on congress/her. What a hypocrite.
Dianne Fienstein, Champion of the NSA spying on ordinary Americans , is now mad that the CIA is spying on congress/her. What a hypocrite.
Hypocrisy is her thing, she doesn't just do it, she embraces it. Like her telling the public that concealed weapon permits will just lead to more violence, while she herself was a concealed weapon permit holder, even after she had armed security.
FortWayne
2014 Mar 12, 12:10pm
I think first and foremost he is interested in his own ego. Or at least I don't think he cares much for our rights, especially when they get in a way of government snooping.
Today they are just gathering information, tomorrow they'll make a list of people who they don't like and blacklist them. This was a little difficult during the red scare, but it sure is easier now if they have all the phone calls and emails in front of them.
Dan8267
2014 Mar 13, 2:47am
As much as I detest the Sandy Hook Hoax, having a Republican president get his balls chopped off by Putin would make the world an even more dangerous place.
Well then, Obama is safe..... He has no balls.....
Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his mission's accomplished
Snowden's revelations did nothing to harm U.S. national security or world stability. In fact, those revelations have made us safer from our own government's stupidity and malice. The NSA has gotten way out of control and it's irresponsible actions could very well trigger nuclear war. Our allies could have easily consider the NSA's actions a threat to their national security and an act of war. ...our enemies and neutral countries even more so.
Keeping the NSA in check is a national security -- a world security -- issue. And now it is possible, thanks to the great Eric Snowden.
And yet, what is the Obama administration's reaction?
Regardless of what you think of Obama's politics, if he were a good man, a decent human being with humanity's interest at heart, he would be supporting the heroic actions of Snowden instead of attacking him, threatening him with imprisonment, torture, and death, and forcing him to take refuge in Russia.
Eric Snowden is the greatest hero America has ever had. He should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom. This award was made precisely for the purpose of recognizing persons like Snowden.
For our government to treat such a hero as a terrorist and criminal is a despicable and dishonorable act that reflects poorly on our nation and its people who tolerate such injustice. In this mid-term election year, I hope our citizens send a message to Washington, D.C. by voting out any politician who ever called Snowden a terrorist, a traitor, or a criminal. Let them know there are consequences for being on the wrong side of history.
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