patrick.net

curious2 says

Same-sex couples have been getting married for thousands of years.

Across any nation and any culture it boils down to a man and woman
who get married and produce a "blood" offspring to carry the family name. This is has been true for thousands of years. Else we would all be Bastards... But we are not.

Its all about the family and 'Blood Ties"... So called "Gay Marriage" does not produce a blood relative.

Dan8267 says

lesbians = ratings.

Lesbians are very unattractive.. many are fat and obnoxious.

Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are Fat
March 11, 2013

CNSNews.com) – The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese.

Strategist says

Oh God, why do you do this to me lotsand, why?

the 2nd pix is only paid models... the fat ones are certainly lesbians...

curious2 says

African countries women are allowed to take wives of their own.

Nope... you are confusing Polygamy in Africa ... the man is the husband vs women being wives. The wives do not take another wife in such African tribal practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

BTW, they are also slavers.. i guess we should do all the wrong things they are also doing.

Genesis 19:1-13.

The wicked men of Sodom attempted a homosexual rape of two messengers from God who had come to visit Lot. As a result of this and other widespread wickedness, God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah in a storm of fire and brimstone.

thomaswong.1986 says

Strategist says

Oh God, why do you do this to me lotsand, why?

the 2nd pix is only paid models... the fat ones are certainly lesbians...

You wont believe this, but one of my tenants are lesbians. They make a lot of money, and pay rent on time. I had the hots for one of them, she is so sexy I saw her in my dreams. Just my luck, she had the hots for my wife.
What a waste.

Romans 1:25-27

They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-- who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

@thomaswong.1986, maybe you should engage "The Professor" in a debate about God's role in the destruction of 9/11. The Professor asked where did all the people go, perhaps you can argue they were all "raptured up."

“I support gay marriage. I believe they have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us.”
― Kinky Friedman

"And for the record, all marriages are “same sex” marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex.”
― Bill Maher, New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer

thomaswong.1986 says

Across any nation and any culture it boils down to a man and woman

who get married and produce a "blood" offspring to carry the family name. This is has been true for thousands of years. Else we would all be Bastards... But we are not.

So why would we allow post-menopausal women to get married then? What about men over 39, who increasingly have defective sperm as time goes on? What about intersex people?

Strategist says

They make a lot of money, and pay rent on time.

Most of the gays are economically better off than the average straight person. This probably doesn't help the jealousy of the assless chap types.

"Kevane (2004) estimates that approximately 5–10 percent of the women in Africa are involved in woman-to-woman marriages. Traditionally, woman marriage has served as an avenue through which women exercise social influence and patronage in societies where inheritance and succession pass through the male line. In such societies, woman marriage makes it possible for women to gain social status as the head of the household."

Such marriages have not traditionally been considered lesbian marriage, because the relationship is not necessarily sexual, but they are definitely female-female marriages. South Africa is currently the only African country where male couples can get married.

As for Paul, by his own account he was a persecutor of the early Christians, and even after his "conversion" he continued to disagree with most of them. He wrote that women must not speak out above men (sorry, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, but Paul didn't want you running for President or even Governor), or cut their hair short, etc. If you quote Paul as an authority without following all of what he wrote, then you're a hypocrite. If you quote Paul and follow all of what he wrote, then you're rejecting the original disciples with whom he disagreed. The Roman Empire permitted freedom of religion until Constantine decided to impose Christianity, and the early Christians disagreed about many things; then Constantine locked their leaders in a room and refused to let them out until they conformed to one uniform doctrine; they agreed, and the early church rose and fell in that moment, as it rose to power but fell in every other way.

Bible prohibits sodomy and warns against it.
Bible also prohibits murder, gluttony and greed.

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them. Most people ignore quite a few things on that list these days.

FortWayne says

Bible prohibits....

many things, mostly other religions, also wealth disparity including especially debt, but the first story on Forthood's list reflects his fapping obsession. The actual story was about inhospitality, the rape of guests, and had nothing to do with marriage, but Forthood and Bop69 have only one thing on their stunted minds; the two of them should really get a room.

FortWayne says

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them.

Yes, and whenever I meet a woman in any aspect of life, business, social, court appearance, hospital, etc., I make sure she is not currently menstruating. And if she is, I make sure she touches no one until she brings two doves or two young pigeons to be sacrificed for her uncleanliness as god intended. Personally, I prefer doves, but pigeons are much more common in most places.

25“ ‘When a woman has a discharge of blood for many days at a time other than her monthly period or has a discharge that continues beyond her period, she will be unclean as long as she has the discharge, just as in the days of her period. 26Any bed she lies on while her discharge continues will be unclean, as is her bed during her monthly period, and anything she sits on will be unclean, as during her period. 27Anyone who touches them will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening.

28“ ‘When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean. 29On the eighth day she must take two doves or two young pigeons and bring them to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 30The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the Lord for the uncleanness of her discharge.

- Leviticus

corntrollio says

thomaswong.1986 says

Across any nation and any culture it boils down to a man and woman


who get married and produce a "blood" offspring to carry the family name. This is has been true for thousands of years. Else we would all be Bastards... But we are not.

So why would we allow post-menopausal women to get married then? What about men over 39, who increasingly have defective sperm as time goes on? What about intersex people?

What about those who use contraceptives? Same thing.

corntrollio says

Strategist says

They make a lot of money, and pay rent on time.

Most of the gays are economically better off than the average straight person. This probably doesn't help the jealousy of the assless chap types.

I believe it. I read that somewhere too. They are well educated, professionals and do very well even though they are discriminated.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Lesbians should be certifiably HOTT!

I'll volunteer for that.

FortWayne says

Bible prohibits sodomy and warns against it.

Bible also prohibits murder, gluttony and greed.

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them. Most people ignore quite a few things on that list these days.

Who needs a guide to tell them not to murder? It's supposed to be common sense.

Gay marriage is fine as long as the gays don't mind Archangels descending from Heaven on God's command and searing them in half with flaming swords of righteousness.

Ceffer says

Gay marriage is fine as long as the gays don't mind Archangels descending from Heaven on God's command and searing them in half with flaming swords of righteousness.

Both God and the Archangels would be breaking the American constitution.
They would be in hot water.

curious2 says

@thomaswong.1986, maybe you should engage "The Professor" in a debate about God's role in the destruction of 9/11. The Professor asked where did all the people go, perhaps you can argue they were all "raptured up."

Yeah, I can image that intellectual powerhouse of a debate.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/30_e35g0_dg

corntrollio says

So why would we allow post-menopausal women to get married then? What about men over 39, who increasingly have defective sperm as time goes on? What about intersex people?

Pregnancy over 50 is far more common than you think all over and around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

Bare foot and pregnant... been going on for a long time..

Elizabeth Greenhill, born 1615, who had 39 children with her husband William Greenhill, gave birth to her last child, future London surgeon Thomas Greenhill, in 1669 at the age of 54, having conceived naturally.

corntrollio says

Most of the gays are economically better off than the average straight person.

some who are 1-10% of the population are economically better

off than 90-99% of the population ?

Are they ALL on the Forbes 500 list or something ?

No wonder the Occupy crazies failed... they should have gone after

the Hairdressers and Interior Decorators.

In other words, Wong has hit 4 consecutive homers, so it's time for curious to change the game to avoid the score....

curious2 says

@thomaswong.1986, maybe you should engage "The Professor" in a debate about God's role in the destruction of 9/11. The Professor asked where did all the people go, perhaps you can argue they were all "raptured up."

Conversely, if you are getting your morals from 'seseme street', then you will most likely live a decent and happy life as your positive morals will have an effect on the people you surround yourself with.
TV is not as bad as you make it out to be.

Dan8267 says

4. If you are getting your morals from Honey Boo Boo, then you are a retard.

SoftShell says

Conversely, if you are getting your morals from 'seseme street', then you will most likely live a decent and happy life as your positive morals will have an effect on the people you surround yourself with.

TV is not as bad as you make it out to be.

Dan8267 says

4. If you are getting your morals from Honey Boo Boo, then you are a retard.

Being unashamed of public farting has its merits.

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

lesbians = ratings.

Lesbians are very unattractive.. many are fat and obnoxious.

Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are Fat

March 11, 2013

CNSNews.com) – The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese.

Interesting. What about gay men?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

The money isn't the issue.

It's the PI's thesis.

We don't care about Immense Hirsute Lesbians (IHLs) since they TSA will hire all of them.

What we want is to investigate is how to promote the prevalence of HOTT! svelte lesbians who promote the general welfare by making out in public.

When they shop at Walmart they should not have to pay sales tax.

Strategist says

Who needs a guide to tell them not to murder? It's supposed to be common sense.

If it was all common sense we wouldn't need prisons and no one would ever be charged with manslaughter.

SoftShell says

Conversely, if you are getting your morals from 'seseme street', then you will most likely live a decent and happy life as your positive morals will have an effect on the people you surround yourself with.

TV is not as bad as you make it out to be.

Dan8267 says

4. If you are getting your morals from Honey Boo Boo, then you are a retard.

No, you're thinking of Fort Wayne. I've listed many programs, a few in this thread, that are educational and worth watching.

Plus, you missed my point. Anyone with half a brain isn't getting moral direction from trash T.V.

thomaswong.1986 says

Pregnancy over 50 is far more common than you think all over and around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

Completely irrelevant to my point -- I said "post-menopausal women" -- by definition, this extremely small percentage of the population you're talking about would not be post-menopausal if it's a natural birth or they are not procreating themselves because they are using IVF and many are using donor eggs typically. In any case, pregnancy over 50 is *exactly* as common as I think it is, according to that shitty Wikipedia article.

Infertile people should also not be able to get married according to this flawed thinking, of course.

FortWayne says

Strategist says

Who needs a guide to tell them not to murder? It's supposed to be common sense.

If it was all common sense we wouldn't need prisons and no one would ever be charged with manslaughter.

The Bible hasn't worked, that's for sure. If anything, it has been the cause of wars and human rights abuse. Throwing murderers in prison acts as a better deterrent.

Strategist says

The Bible hasn't worked, that's for sure. If anything, it has been the cause of wars and human rights abuse. Throwing murderers in prison acts as a better deterrent.

It can't solve all the problems when people choose not to follow it. Be more wary of the world where no one follows the bible, because you'll never have enough laws to keep people from doing evil.

FortWayne says

Be more wary of the world where no one follows the bible, because you'll never have enough laws to keep people from doing evil.

You mean everywhere? You probably aren't even aware of the many things in the bible that you don't comply with, and I'm not even talking about the wide stance stuff that you're obsessed with.

FortWayne says

Strategist says

The Bible hasn't worked, that's for sure. If anything, it has been the cause of wars and human rights abuse. Throwing murderers in prison acts as a better deterrent.

It can't solve all the problems when people choose not to follow it. Be more wary of the world where no one follows the bible, because you'll never have enough laws to keep people from doing evil.

A lot of laws we have are laws to prevent the evils of the bible.....killing a disobedient son, stoning an adulteress to death, persecuting gays, burning witches at the stake, slavery. These can only be described as evil. We need common sense secular laws to prevent this evil.

They used up their public funding allocation waging the war on AIDS.
Lesbians didn't have that issue, hence they attacked their obeseness.

Strategist says

Interesting. What about gay men?

Most jailbirds are not born with, or taught common sense.

Strategist says

FortWayne says

Bible prohibits sodomy and warns against it.

Bible also prohibits murder, gluttony and greed.

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them. Most people ignore quite a few things on that list these days.

Who needs a guide to tell them not to murder? It's supposed to be common sense.

Strategist says

We need common sense secular laws to prevent this evil.

There is no "common sense". Bible and the teachings of Christ gives a life meaning and creates common sense for a common man to follow in this world. It teaches a man to live a good life, a better life. A greater goal to strive for.

When we go to church they don't talk about stoning anyone or persecuting someone. Don't base your perception of the church on something you see in the movies, it's not like that.

FortWayne says

Strategist says

We need common sense secular laws to prevent this evil.

There is no "common sense". Bible and the teachings of Christ gives a life meaning and creates common sense for a common man to follow in this world. It teaches a man to live a good life, a better life. A greater goal to strive for.

When we go to church they don't talk about stoning anyone or persecuting someone. Don't base your perception of the church on something you see in the movies, it's not like that.

I'm glad you don't talk about all that, but the Bible still does. All it means is you are not fully following the Bible, which is why you are a better person.
I actually don't have a problem with anyone believing the world is flat or anything else that catches their fancy, as long as they are not hurting anyone.

Bible is an old document. People are aware that some parts of it are no longer valid while the rest still holds true.

School curriculum changed with the times, so did the bible.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..."

14th amendment, Section 1

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."