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Same-sex couples have been getting married for thousands of years.

One of the trolls who doth protest too much, who trolled an SF newspaper website before trolling PatNet, distorts history and says it's only because of President Obama. That's a neat trick: President Obama went back in time probably millions of years, persuaded every species closely related to humans to include homosexuality in their behavior, then traveled forward to the dawn of recorded human history in order to make sure same-sex couples could get married, then traveled forward to the 1960s to switch his birth certificate from Kenya to Hawaii, and get the event documented in a Hawaii newspaper, then ran for President and got elected twice. Really an amazing guy, to be able to do all that.

curious2 says

persuaded every species closely related to humans to include homosexuality in their behavior

And even a few not closely-related, like penguins.

corntrollio says

Gay Marriage is Permitted by the Bible

If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

- Leviticus 20:13

So, would that be a sexless gay marriage that is permitted by the Bible?

The Bible is a vile book of bad morals written by a primitive and morally bankrupt people. The Bronze Age was not humanity's best moment in history. It was a harsh time full of antipathy and cruelty. It should be no surprise that moral guides written at that time were downright evil by modern standards.

The Bronze Age was a truly barbaric and tribal time during which violence was used to solve all disputes, people were extremely xenophobic, and superstition ruled. No one was literate. Law was nothing more than the whim of the local despot. Women were property. Science and reasoning did not exist. And there was nothing to do except suffer hot days and boring nights. To get an idea of what life was like back then, image if the entire world was Texas.

Dan8267 says

The Bible is a vile book of bad morals written by a primitive and morally bankrupt people. The Bronze Age was not humanity's best moment in history. It was a harsh time full of antipathy and cruelty. It should be no surprise that moral guides written at that time were downright evil by modern standards.

But you have no problem with 90% of the cable network programing, or the vile filth alternative that is the Netflix catalog?

CaptainShuddup says

But you have no problem with 90% of the cable network programing, or the vile filth alternative that is the Netflix catalog?

1. I watch damn little television.
2. The television I watch is not filth. It's things like Cosmos and The Universe.
3. I might not most of American T.V., but no show tells people to stone people to death for offending an imaginary sky daddy. Only the Bible is that fucked up.
4. If you are getting your morals from Honey Boo Boo, then you are a retard. Also, if you are getting your morals from the Bible, you are a retard. And for the exact same reasons.

Dan8267 says

So, would that be a sexless gay marriage that is permitted by the Bible?

You quoted Leviticus in the Old Testament, about two men. There's nothing in the Old Testament against two women; to the contrary, it says "Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD." Even today in some 'anti-gay' African countries women are allowed to take wives of their own. In the New Testament, which emphasizes belief over all else, Luke 17:34-35 describes the rapture, where believers are to be taken up and unbelievers left behind: "in that night, there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left." Rapture believers can have scary childhoods: one wrote that he came home from school and was surprised to find his house empty, and he cried because he feared his whole family had been raptured up and he had been left behind, but in fact the family were visiting the neighbors next door.

curious2 says

There's nothing in the Old Testament against two women; to the contrary, it praises whoesever finds a wife, and even today in some 'anti-gay' African countries women are allowed to take wives of their own

Ah, the great hypocrisy of the heterosexual view of homosexuality: gay men = abomination, lesbians = ratings.

Pure hypocrisy.

Dan8267 says

curious2 says

There's nothing in the Old Testament against two women; to the contrary, it praises whoesever finds a wife, and even today in some 'anti-gay' African countries women are allowed to take wives of their own

Ah, the great hypocrisy of the heterosexual view of homosexuality: gay men = abomination, lesbians = ratings.

Pure hypocrisy.

Not my view. It's a free country.
As for lesbians doing it....turns me on.

lostand confused says

I cannot believe in any god that would forbid bacon.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/aiIKmXD-t_A

Strategist says

As for lesbians doing it....turns me on

This turns you on??

Now this.... Lord have mercy-I think the Good Lord himself will take some time to enjoy his creations!!

lostand confused says

Strategist says

As for lesbians doing it....turns me on

This turns you on??

Now this.... Lord have mercy-I think the Good Lord himself will take some time to enjoy his creations!!

Oh God, why do you do this to me lotsand, why?

curious2 says

Same-sex couples have been getting married for thousands of years.

Across any nation and any culture it boils down to a man and woman
who get married and produce a "blood" offspring to carry the family name. This is has been true for thousands of years. Else we would all be Bastards... But we are not.

Its all about the family and 'Blood Ties"... So called "Gay Marriage" does not produce a blood relative.

Dan8267 says

lesbians = ratings.

Lesbians are very unattractive.. many are fat and obnoxious.

Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are Fat
March 11, 2013

CNSNews.com) – The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese.

Strategist says

Oh God, why do you do this to me lotsand, why?

the 2nd pix is only paid models... the fat ones are certainly lesbians...

curious2 says

African countries women are allowed to take wives of their own.

Nope... you are confusing Polygamy in Africa ... the man is the husband vs women being wives. The wives do not take another wife in such African tribal practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

BTW, they are also slavers.. i guess we should do all the wrong things they are also doing.

Genesis 19:1-13.

The wicked men of Sodom attempted a homosexual rape of two messengers from God who had come to visit Lot. As a result of this and other widespread wickedness, God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah in a storm of fire and brimstone.

thomaswong.1986 says

Strategist says

Oh God, why do you do this to me lotsand, why?

the 2nd pix is only paid models... the fat ones are certainly lesbians...

You wont believe this, but one of my tenants are lesbians. They make a lot of money, and pay rent on time. I had the hots for one of them, she is so sexy I saw her in my dreams. Just my luck, she had the hots for my wife.
What a waste.

Romans 1:25-27

They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-- who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

@thomaswong.1986, maybe you should engage "The Professor" in a debate about God's role in the destruction of 9/11. The Professor asked where did all the people go, perhaps you can argue they were all "raptured up."

“I support gay marriage. I believe they have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us.”
― Kinky Friedman

"And for the record, all marriages are “same sex” marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex.”
― Bill Maher, New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer

thomaswong.1986 says

Across any nation and any culture it boils down to a man and woman

who get married and produce a "blood" offspring to carry the family name. This is has been true for thousands of years. Else we would all be Bastards... But we are not.

So why would we allow post-menopausal women to get married then? What about men over 39, who increasingly have defective sperm as time goes on? What about intersex people?

Strategist says

They make a lot of money, and pay rent on time.

Most of the gays are economically better off than the average straight person. This probably doesn't help the jealousy of the assless chap types.

"Kevane (2004) estimates that approximately 5–10 percent of the women in Africa are involved in woman-to-woman marriages. Traditionally, woman marriage has served as an avenue through which women exercise social influence and patronage in societies where inheritance and succession pass through the male line. In such societies, woman marriage makes it possible for women to gain social status as the head of the household."

Such marriages have not traditionally been considered lesbian marriage, because the relationship is not necessarily sexual, but they are definitely female-female marriages. South Africa is currently the only African country where male couples can get married.

As for Paul, by his own account he was a persecutor of the early Christians, and even after his "conversion" he continued to disagree with most of them. He wrote that women must not speak out above men (sorry, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, but Paul didn't want you running for President or even Governor), or cut their hair short, etc. If you quote Paul as an authority without following all of what he wrote, then you're a hypocrite. If you quote Paul and follow all of what he wrote, then you're rejecting the original disciples with whom he disagreed. The Roman Empire permitted freedom of religion until Constantine decided to impose Christianity, and the early Christians disagreed about many things; then Constantine locked their leaders in a room and refused to let them out until they conformed to one uniform doctrine; they agreed, and the early church rose and fell in that moment, as it rose to power but fell in every other way.

Bible prohibits sodomy and warns against it.
Bible also prohibits murder, gluttony and greed.

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them. Most people ignore quite a few things on that list these days.

FortWayne says

Bible prohibits....

many things, mostly other religions, also wealth disparity including especially debt, but the first story on Forthood's list reflects his fapping obsession. The actual story was about inhospitality, the rape of guests, and had nothing to do with marriage, but Forthood and Bop69 have only one thing on their stunted minds; the two of them should really get a room.

FortWayne says

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them.

Yes, and whenever I meet a woman in any aspect of life, business, social, court appearance, hospital, etc., I make sure she is not currently menstruating. And if she is, I make sure she touches no one until she brings two doves or two young pigeons to be sacrificed for her uncleanliness as god intended. Personally, I prefer doves, but pigeons are much more common in most places.

25“ ‘When a woman has a discharge of blood for many days at a time other than her monthly period or has a discharge that continues beyond her period, she will be unclean as long as she has the discharge, just as in the days of her period. 26Any bed she lies on while her discharge continues will be unclean, as is her bed during her monthly period, and anything she sits on will be unclean, as during her period. 27Anyone who touches them will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening.

28“ ‘When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean. 29On the eighth day she must take two doves or two young pigeons and bring them to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 30The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the Lord for the uncleanness of her discharge.

- Leviticus

corntrollio says

thomaswong.1986 says

Across any nation and any culture it boils down to a man and woman


who get married and produce a "blood" offspring to carry the family name. This is has been true for thousands of years. Else we would all be Bastards... But we are not.

So why would we allow post-menopausal women to get married then? What about men over 39, who increasingly have defective sperm as time goes on? What about intersex people?

What about those who use contraceptives? Same thing.

corntrollio says

Strategist says

They make a lot of money, and pay rent on time.

Most of the gays are economically better off than the average straight person. This probably doesn't help the jealousy of the assless chap types.

I believe it. I read that somewhere too. They are well educated, professionals and do very well even though they are discriminated.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Lesbians should be certifiably HOTT!

I'll volunteer for that.

FortWayne says

Bible prohibits sodomy and warns against it.

Bible also prohibits murder, gluttony and greed.

It's an old document made to guide folks through life, to help them. Most people ignore quite a few things on that list these days.

Who needs a guide to tell them not to murder? It's supposed to be common sense.

Gay marriage is fine as long as the gays don't mind Archangels descending from Heaven on God's command and searing them in half with flaming swords of righteousness.

Ceffer says

Gay marriage is fine as long as the gays don't mind Archangels descending from Heaven on God's command and searing them in half with flaming swords of righteousness.

Both God and the Archangels would be breaking the American constitution.
They would be in hot water.

curious2 says

@thomaswong.1986, maybe you should engage "The Professor" in a debate about God's role in the destruction of 9/11. The Professor asked where did all the people go, perhaps you can argue they were all "raptured up."

Yeah, I can image that intellectual powerhouse of a debate.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/30_e35g0_dg

corntrollio says

So why would we allow post-menopausal women to get married then? What about men over 39, who increasingly have defective sperm as time goes on? What about intersex people?

Pregnancy over 50 is far more common than you think all over and around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

Bare foot and pregnant... been going on for a long time..

Elizabeth Greenhill, born 1615, who had 39 children with her husband William Greenhill, gave birth to her last child, future London surgeon Thomas Greenhill, in 1669 at the age of 54, having conceived naturally.

corntrollio says

Most of the gays are economically better off than the average straight person.

some who are 1-10% of the population are economically better

off than 90-99% of the population ?

Are they ALL on the Forbes 500 list or something ?

No wonder the Occupy crazies failed... they should have gone after

the Hairdressers and Interior Decorators.

In other words, Wong has hit 4 consecutive homers, so it's time for curious to change the game to avoid the score....

curious2 says

@thomaswong.1986, maybe you should engage "The Professor" in a debate about God's role in the destruction of 9/11. The Professor asked where did all the people go, perhaps you can argue they were all "raptured up."

Conversely, if you are getting your morals from 'seseme street', then you will most likely live a decent and happy life as your positive morals will have an effect on the people you surround yourself with.
TV is not as bad as you make it out to be.

Dan8267 says

4. If you are getting your morals from Honey Boo Boo, then you are a retard.

SoftShell says

Conversely, if you are getting your morals from 'seseme street', then you will most likely live a decent and happy life as your positive morals will have an effect on the people you surround yourself with.

TV is not as bad as you make it out to be.

Dan8267 says

4. If you are getting your morals from Honey Boo Boo, then you are a retard.

Being unashamed of public farting has its merits.

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

lesbians = ratings.

Lesbians are very unattractive.. many are fat and obnoxious.

Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are Fat

March 11, 2013

CNSNews.com) – The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese.

Interesting. What about gay men?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

The money isn't the issue.

It's the PI's thesis.

We don't care about Immense Hirsute Lesbians (IHLs) since they TSA will hire all of them.

What we want is to investigate is how to promote the prevalence of HOTT! svelte lesbians who promote the general welfare by making out in public.

When they shop at Walmart they should not have to pay sales tax.

Strategist says

Who needs a guide to tell them not to murder? It's supposed to be common sense.

If it was all common sense we wouldn't need prisons and no one would ever be charged with manslaughter.