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All things considered...

if you say so.

CaptainShuddup says

All things considered...

if you say so.

Wow, I didn't know it was even possible to be a bigot against fact-based reporting.

Still, this is the perfect example of conservative behavior. I don't like the conclusion, therefore I will launch baseless attacks against the messenger.

I'll start worrying when an Antarctic glacier lands on my head.

For Insurers, No Doubts on Climate Change

When big insurance is making trillions of dollars of adjustments based on the science of climate change, either conservatives have to admit they are liars or they have to say that the free market is wrong about climate change.

So were past the point of no return, why bother to do anything now!

If this plays out well, 15 feet must might put me with some prime beachfront property here in southern cal.

Can we get an older white guy in a suite, ASAP, to explain how this is not a problem?

Talking points should include, but not be limited to:

- "Climate has always changed, one way or another"
- "There is no possible way humans could be responsible for this"
- "Think of the new beachfront property!"
- "The other planets are warming, too"
- "Replacing the species diversity lost in a mass extinction usually takes less than 10 million years!"
- "Not destroying the planet costs jobs"

Iosef V HydroCabron says

"Climate has always changed, one way or another"

The climate has always changed, and neither major party has proposed anything that would stop the climate from changing. Losing yourself in sarcasm does not change those facts.

curious2 says

The climate has always changed, and neither major party has proposed anything that would stop the climate from changing. Losing yourself in sarcasm does not change those facts.

Both parties are exactly the same. Both parties are exactly the same. Both parties are exactly the same. Both parties are exactly the same.

(Am I superior to everyone yet?)

and neither major party has proposed anything that would stop the climate from changing

Bull.

Shit.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/air/the-political-history-of-cap-and-trade-34711212/?no-ist

Now a dead letter, cap and trade was a free-market palliative. It would not have done enough, but it was something.

And, yes, the climate has always changed, but never this fast. Google "Permian Triassic extinction" for an idea of what rapid change might mean, and keep in mind that the rate of change at that time was not, as far as is known, as fast as is occurring now.

Iosef V HydroCabron says

(Am I superior to everyone yet?)

No. Denver is a nice place, go outside and get some fresh air and exercise, and maybe you can overcome your sarcasm addiction.

curious2 says

Iosef V HydroCabron says

"Climate has always changed, one way or another"

The climate has always changed, and neither major party has proposed anything that would stop the climate from changing. Losing yourself in sarcasm does not change those facts.

But remember that for Cabronsito, sarcasm trumps all other arguments.

Inhale Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddows ass gas, and you'll feel the same.

Iosef V HydroCabron says

Can we get an older white guy in a suite, ASAP, to explain how this is not a problem?

Talking points should include, but not be limited to:

- "Climate has always changed, one way or another"

- "There is no possible way humans could be responsible for this"

- "Think of the new beachfront property!"

- "The other planets are warming, too"

- "Replacing the species diversity lost in a mass extinction usually takes less than 10 million years!"

- "Not destroying the planet costs jobs"

How about: "The earth is still colder than the sun. In cosmic terms, we are still relatively lucky?"

Interesting. If this is true, then flat FL and any flat areas will be under water??

Florida is just a mass of loose limestone and peat bog. Maybe it floats.

A lot of Florida, and the Eastern coast, is screwed.

lostand confused says

Interesting. If this is true, then flat FL and any flat areas will be under water??

At 15ft, Lake Okeechobee becomes part of the sea once again and everything south of Deerfield Beach in the east and Cape Coral in the west is underwater. No more Key West.

JFK airport is also underwater. Buh Bye to most of the Netherlands as well. C'est la vie Venice. Alexandria. Ho Chi Min City, Shanghai, New Orleans, parts of London, Oakland (think of how expensive the BA will be!)....

You get the picture.

Was out on a boat off Florida a couple years ago and said to myself while looking back at it, had the ocean been just 10 or 15 feet higher none of this state would be habitable!

No, not happening. It's not convenient for the gluttonous sociopaths/oligarchy, so it's not really happening. Pollution isn't real either. You see, global warming has been happening before, and so has pollution, therefore do whatever makes your life comfortable. What if the scientists happen to be right? That's easy, we will print more earths.

Fox watching nitwits.

casandra says

Was out on a boat off Florida a couple years ago and said to myself while looking back at it, had the ocean been just 10 or 15 feet higher none of this state would be habitable!

What do you think of the Whale Bones found in the California Sierra Mountains ?

Who you gonna blame for that ?

curious2 says

The climate has always changed, and neither major party has proposed anything that would stop the climate from changing. Losing yourself in sarcasm does not change those facts.

The question is do we spend Trillions, abandon our economy for some nonsense boom dongle ineffective projects. No thanks! Pass on that !

Politicized Science is an UGLY thing.

Especially the why these shit heads are handling it.

It's much like the religious advisers for a Pharaoh or Emperor, who nettles in their ear, that their civilization is doomed. Because the stars didn't line up, or the hawk snatching a sparrow from the sky was a sign from the gods, that they would win a battle.

Without an alternative endgame, I personally don't give a fuck what the Liberals or Scientists have to say. They just trying to cash in on some of that ole black magic.

We all know what happens when an asteroid hits the earth, we all know what will happen if the sea level rises and floods every coastal region, we all know what will happen when the temperature rises and changes.

What we don't know, or have any of the foggiest slightest idea, is what in the FUCK (is, can, would) anyone do about it, when that day comes.

Then there's the sheer hypocrisies, with these Greenie bastards, shit like We can't have plastic grocery bags, but the Liberals are the biggest champions of placing a 3D printer in every hand of every man woman and child in America, so we can all just frivolously hit print when we need anything. Play with said object for a few seconds, then toss it unto the discarded 3d printed playthings heap.

WE can't have an indecent light, but it's OK or at least just ignored and never mentioned, that your average living room now has over 5 lighting devices. When it used to be just one light overhead, or two lamps, each with a 120watt light bulb, but most people just turned on one.

We can't have a decent dish soap or bath soap for fear it might put phosphors in the rivers, so we have this pasty waxy do dick-all soap bullshit like. But wander over to the sexy hipster personal hygiene isle, and you'll find liquid body soaps that are so strong, that if just one bottle ever leaked into the Atlantic ocean, it would turn it into the worlds biggest bubble bath.

Starting from King number one hypocrite King Al Gore, all the way down to you lackey wannabe idiots, you're all full of shit. Go play Science somewhere else, and leave the grownups alone, we're trying to live here. Willya!

Dan8267 says

Wow, I didn't know it was even possible to be a bigot against fact-based reporting.

NPR is just another liberal rag.

CaptainShuddup says

WE can't have an indecent light, but it's OK or at least just ignored and
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We can't have a decent dish soap or bath soap for fear it might put phosphors
in the rivers,

Incandescent bulbs are room heaters with a minor by-product of light.
The problem of phosphorus in water is very real. Are you aware that humans increased the phosphorus content of the GREAT LAKES enough to cause huge algae bloom problems 40 years ago, and mitigation efforts have reduced the levels even in the face of burgeoning human populations in the watershed?
Your post comes off like a geezer whining, "Why can't things stay the way they were when I was young even though the population is soaring and its impact on the planet has increased exponentially in my own lifetime?"

Automan Empire says

Incandescent bulbs are room heaters with a minor by-product of light.

Wait a minute, hold on, time out...

Are you saying that "I" can't have incandescent(indecent) lights because you're worried it might raise the temperature of your room clear across the continent, a few degrees?

CaptainShuddup says

your room clear across the continent

Don't know if trolling, or just thick.

The point being, America can't afford 300 million people using light bulbs that are only 10% efficient, now that far more efficient alternatives are available.

Incandescents remain great for chick brooders, or a rural outhouse where one's ass might literally freeze to the seat without an incandescent bulb burning there.

CaptainShuddup says

It's much like the religious advisers for a Pharaoh or Emperor, who nettles in their ear, that their civilization is doomed. Because the stars didn't line up, or the hawk snatching a sparrow from the sky was a sign from the gods, that they would win a battle.

Or in the case of climate change, because the same science that got us to the moon provides overwhelming physical and verifiable evidence and the same people who got us to the moon, NASA, confirms this science.

http://climate.nasa.gov/

It's amazing how deluded the conservative fantasy world is.

curious2 says

and neither major party has proposed anything that would stop the climate from changing.

Not only have many people in both major parties supported cap-and-trade applied to carbon emissions, but there are Republican supporters of carbon taxes, including Bob Inglis (former congressman from SC), Douglas Holtz-Eakin (McCain's economic adviser), Arthur Laffer, Gary Becker, Newt Gingrich, and George Schultz.

Dan8267 says

and the same people who got us to the moon, NASA, confirms this science

It will now be necessary to either (a) dismiss NASA as being part of a conspiracy, or (b) assert that the moon landings were faked, too.

The libertarian orthodoxy of denial on climate is not to be questioned. Only the Bible is held as a higher authority.

And this is not sarcasm by any stretch of the definition of the word.