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Patrick says

Try making a simple bread at home, and be surprised how different it is from anything you can buy from a store.

There's lots of youtube videos that demonstrate it. Some even demonstrate making break in a skillet on the stove, no oven needed. Some don't even need yeast.

One explanation I heard is that for thousands of years, 99% of the population was eating high fiber barley and rye bread.

Using mixtures of mostly wheat for bread for the masses is only the last century or so.

NuttBoxer says

My oldest had high fevers and rashes until we switched the laundry detergent. Then she never had them again. Blaming genetics is convenient because then it's not our responsibility or fault. But with a little more knowledge I think we'd all learn it's a myth.

I'm allergic to Nothing. I always used the cheapest Laundry Detergent. Gain, Store Brand, whatever.

Chick washed my clothes with Tide once and it was like Chicken Pox Strikes Back.

AmericanKulak says

NuttBoxer says

My oldest had high fevers and rashes until we switched the laundry detergent. Then she never had them again. Blaming genetics is convenient because then it's not our responsibility or fault. But with a little more knowledge I think we'd all learn it's a myth.

I'm allergic to Nothing. I always used the cheapest Laundry Detergent. Gain, Store Brand, whatever.

Chick washed my clothes with Tide once and it was like Chicken Pox Strikes Back.

Only reaction physically I have is to certain metals on my skin. Some food will make my stools nasty, but it doesn't physically bother me or I shit my pants. No headaches or stomach aches. There's the occasional I ate too much and need to find a toilet asap. System needs to release pressure. Bread, cheese, meat, seafood, etc. nothing bothers me.

There was one biggie though for a while. Heartburn. I'm convinced Tums and the pills cause MORE heartburn. Stopped any of that crap about 5-6 years ago. Occasionally have what is minor heartburn, but I can drink and eat whatever I want now since I just stopped popping stuff to "relieve" it. Part of that is I completely cut fast food out of any part of my diet. You need sodium at some level, but fast food is notorious for it.

clambo says

"When was your last blood test?" "1994" The nurse was laughing "good for you".

what do you think the nurse meant?

Patrick says

I'll have to disagree here - most of the people in the world have some form of gluten sensitivity. Practically everyone who eats massive amounts of wheat gluten experiences some sort of damage. It could be autoimmune disorders caused by gluten-induced leaky gut syndrome, or ulcerative colitis and small intestine damage which inhibits the ability of the body to absorb nutrients.

After I was in a severe car accident, I developed trauma-induced celiac disease. When you are severely injured, the body's healing ability is focused on repairing your injuries, and neglects its normal duties, such as repairing intestinal damage from eating massive amounts of gluten. Once your body has to triage its recuperative capacity, the damage from gluten to your intestines becomes obvious.

I developed a craving for red meat, and even though I ate more than a pound a day, over about a month, I lost almost 50 lbs. My body couldn't process the food I was eating because my intestinal villi were too damaged. It was only after I cut out all bread and gluten that I was finally able to regain weight and recover. Now that I'm fully healed, I can once again tolerate gluten, but I now know what it's really doing to me, so I minimize it.

Before my accident, I was developing arthritis in my hands. My mother suffers from it, and I also have an aunt who is full-blown celiac. These women grew up on a farm with no industrial chemicals, so it's more a product of the fact that Northern Europeans didn't go through "5000 years" of natural selection to winnow the population down to only those who could tolerate a lot of gluten containing grains in their diets. Here's a dirty little secret - "failure to thrive" in young infants is largely the result of excess gluten in their formula or gruel. This is the mechanism by which natural selection worked against gluten-sensitive populations in the Middle East "5000 years" ago - it killed them in childhood.

After I largely cut out gluten, my arthritis went away. 15 years later, and still no signs of arthritis.

Home-baked bread, without being massively nuked by added gluten, is much less damaging than industrial breads.

The point the picture demonstrates, that I believe is further echo'd by what you're saying, is GMO's are bad for you. Not wheat, not grains, but GMO's.

NuttBoxer says

The point the picture demonstrates, that I believe is further echo'd by what you're saying, is GMO's are bad for you. Not wheat, not grains, but GMO's.

I wouldn't blame it on the GMOs, I'd blame it on the highly processed wheat products most people eat...If people ate bread made with just natural ingredients, it would be a different story...but finding bread made naturally isn't easy...You have to make it yourself to be sure. It's even better to use a sourdough starter instead of YEAST. All that store bought sourdough is fake in my opinion.

WookieMan says

There was one biggie though for a while. Heartburn. I'm convinced Tums and the pills cause MORE heartburn. Stopped any of that crap about 5-6 years ago. Occasionally have what is minor heartburn, but I can drink and eat whatever I want now since I just stopped popping stuff to "relieve" it. Part of that is I completely cut fast food out of any part of my diet. You need sodium at some level, but fast food is notorious for it.

Yep! The only time I get heartburn is when I take my kids for pizza. And I noticed the same shit - tums makes it worse!

I slowly sip a beer or other highly carbonated beverage and it goes away, counter-intuitive but it works like a champ for me.

komputodo says

I wouldn't blame it on the GMOs, I'd blame it on the highly processed wheat products most people eat...If people ate bread made with just natural ingredients, it would be a different story...but finding bread made naturally isn't easy...You have to make it yourself to be sure. It's even better to use a sourdough starter instead of YEAST. All that store bought sourdough is fake in my opinion.

It's really awesome to make bread from complete scratch, with only the flour and a little salt being store brought. When the starter is on your windowsill catching the natural local yeasts.

Gives me a jolt of empowerment.

Another one was making my first beer from absolute scratch from all-grains. One day I'll get back into brewing, and after a few easier runs I'm going to make beer REALLY old-fashioned: No specific gravity measuring, no temperature measuring other than eyeball and hand, and see what I get.