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Call it Crazy says

.... I would drown him...

What and extinguish all the fun?

SO f-in stupid. I can't stand people who bring in politics/religion/whatever into holiday celebrations. There's a reason the internet forums are here for your trolling...Don't care to hear your bull no matter what side you are on.

RedStar says

Don't care to hear your bull

So one no vote for having fun at a progressives expense, got it.

Here's how liberals might mock conservatives:

A: Ask them how much money is leftover for the rent since they spent it all on fireworks

B: Note that they drink the crappiest beer and haven't read that there's actually some good beer made, primarily from microwbreweries and what's more, they aren't that weak 1% shit that passes for beer from all the donkey piss big beer makers.

C: That they can stop mis-using the "Don't Tread On Me" flag which has become the commercialized icon of the Tea Party, which being the fake lobby-funded thing it is makes the usage of such history inappropiate

D: That they should be paying more taxes since most of us live in states that more or less fund theirs even though they complain about things like this ( ironically)

edvard2 says

Here's how liberals might mock conservatives:

Please do, it will be funnier yet.

Most underrated beer - trader joes 12 pack variety.

dublin hillz says

Most underrated beer - trader joes 12 pack variety.

Its rebranded Gordon Biersch. Good stuff!

My philosophy is the first drink should be a called drink, after that who can taste the difference? The whiskey should have a name starting with Glenn after that bar scotch, same with beer 1st should be a fancy something or other, then on to cold and on sale type beer.

Dunno. I take beer pretty seriously. Actually I make most of my own anyway, which winds up being a whole hell of a lot cheaper. So figure if you live in Cali a typical 6-pack of craft beer costs $9. If you make your own its 25 cents a bottle, or $1.50 a 6 pack.

The thing with craft beer is that a lot of it is somewhere between the 6-12% ABV range. Your typical mass-manufactured lager is more like 3.5%-4%. So basically you have to drink 50% more of the crappy beer to " get the job done"

Some of the big brewers have started fortifying their beer with alcohol, which is pretty disgusting.

About a year ago I went to a party and the only stuff they had was some 64 calorie crap and that had to be the worst beer I've ever had. It was like- what's the point?

edvard2 says

r. So figure if you live in Cali a typical 6-pack of craft beer costs $9. If you make your own its 25 cents a bottle, or $1.50 a 6 pack.

Unless you have a source of free malt or are doing a heavy adjunct recipe (hard to call a craft beer at that point) I don't see any way to get the cost down to $0.25/bottle for 6-12% ABV beers. *Maybe* you hit 6% with a pilsner or something else with little hops and fairly complete fermentation...and you are using basic yeast (or propagating your own) and you aren't counting anything but the raw inputs...maybe.

swebb says

edvard2 says

r. So figure if you live in Cali a typical 6-pack of craft beer costs $9. If you make your own its 25 cents a bottle, or $1.50 a 6 pack.

Unless you have a source of free malt or are doing a heavy adjunct recipe (hard to call a craft beer at that point) I don't see any way to get the cost down to $0.25/bottle for 6-12% ABV beers. *Maybe* you hit 6% with a pilsner or something else with little hops and fairly complete fermentation...and you are using basic yeast (or propagating your own) and you aren't counting anything but the raw inputs...maybe.

Agreed. I ran the numbers too and I couldn't get anywhere near $0.25/12oz beer. And that was assuming no learning curve and a labor of love (no $ for time)

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

New Renter says

dublin hillz says

Most underrated beer - trader joes 12 pack variety.

Its rebranded Gordon Biersch. Good stuff!

Really? Had that in Santa Clara/San Jose-ish and Washington, DC. Solid beer.

Truly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Biersch_Brewing_Company

http://frenchoaktv.com/2010/10/the-breweries-behind-traders-joes-private-label-beer/

edvard2 says

The thing with craft beer is that a lot of it is somewhere between the 6-12% ABV range. Your typical mass-manufactured lager is more like 3.5%-4%. So basically you have to drink 50% more of the crappy beer to " get the job done"

And it tastes like shit. Give me Real Ale.

I gotta ship some equipment down south here so I can get back into the hobby. They ain't got nothing but wimpy bright yellow piss-water Pilsner Bud Clones.

edvard2 says

So figure if you live in Cali a typical 6-pack of craft beer costs $9

12 pack of TJ/Gordon Biersch is $10.

thunderlips11 says

edvard2 says

The thing with craft beer is that a lot of it is somewhere between the 6-12% ABV range. Your typical mass-manufactured lager is more like 3.5%-4%. So basically you have to drink 50% more of the crappy beer to " get the job done"

And it tastes like shit. Give me Real Ale.

I gotta ship some equipment down south here so I can get back into the hobby. They ain't got nothing but wimpy bright yellow piss-water Pilsner Bud Clones.

Come November - if you can get it where you are - give this one a try:

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/olde-school-barleywine.htm

Its anything BUT "wimpy bright yellow piss-water Pilsner Bud Clones"

New Renter says

Come November - if you can get it where you are - give this one a try:

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/olde-school-barleywine.htm

Its anything BUT "wimpy bright yellow piss-water Pilsner Bud Clones"

Looks good. Hopefully they'll have some in December when I'll be back here again.

I had a hell of a Dogfish IPA a few nights ago, great stuff.

NR said: Its rebranded Gordon Biersch. Good stuff!
I have been enjoying Trader Jose's Dark Lager way too much. Good to know the taste buds aren't going.

RedStar says

SO f-in stupid. I can't stand people who bring in politics/religion/whatever into holiday celebrations. There's a reason the internet forums are here for your trolling...Don't care to hear your bull no matter what side you are on.

4th of July isn't a Political Correctness day.

indigenous says

My philosophy is the first drink should be a called drink, after that who can taste the difference?

Confidence can taste the difference, it grows exponentially.

Eh, 4th is in coastal OC families headed by a business owner, ex military officer, and a 70's, 80's, & 90's era aerospace engineer.

I'm probably the most left leaning person of the bunch.

Call it Crazy says

How the hell did you crackers turn this into a beer thread

I guess we got co-opted? It is the ONE thing we can agree on.

FortWayne says

Confidence can taste the difference, it grows exponentially

So the more I drink the smarter I get?

thunderlips11 says

New Renter says

Come November - if you can get it where you are - give this one a try:

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/olde-school-barleywine.htm

Its anything BUT "wimpy bright yellow piss-water Pilsner Bud Clones"

Looks good. Hopefully they'll have some in December when I'll be back here again.

I had a hell of a Dogfish IPA a few nights ago, great stuff.

I've got a case of Olde School sitting in my garage fridge. I break one out once in a while.

Tasty!

indigenous says

As you prepare to celebrate Independence Day, I thought Id take this
opportunity, while it still exists, to mock our progressive friends.

This type of callous, mocking, bullying behavior is common among self-described conservatives; I think its origin is in the Axis II disorders.

It sounds like one of my in-laws, a big fat mouthy fuck who is some kind of DOD contractor. Last thing I remember of him was his booming voice going on and on about how Iraq is going to be a cake-walk, and we need to just crush all of those towel-heads, kick their ass and take their gas, the war will pay for itself blah blah. I've never entered the presence of that part of my family tree since.

A few thanksgivings ago, I overheard my brother describing his latest mission in life, a prepper compound bristling with guns and ammo, so he could ride out the N-word president and all his America-hating black and mexican buddies who were imminently going to riot.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Really? Had that in Santa Clara/San Jose-ish

Next time you're in the area head over to this place:

www.yelp.com/biz/sweet-potato-stall-santa-clara

Its your kinda place, a little stall outside an Asian grocery store. Their only product is roasted sweet potatoes.

Damned tasty too!

This just proves peoples minds can be influenced for the better on anonomous internet forums.

Call it Crazy says

indigenous says

Call it Crazy says

.... I would drown him...

What and extinguish all the fun?

OK, I'd wait until the end of the night...

Automan Empire says

This type of callous, mocking, bullying behavior is common

Not common enough if this forum is any indicator...

Regarding war we are on the same page

If you think this attitude is not a two way street think again

edvard2 says

Note that they drink the crappiest beer and haven't read that there's actually some good beer made, primarily from microwbreweries and what's more

You do understand that to a LOT of people, beer is (for the most part) beer. I mean brand almost doesn't matter, just as long as you stay away from that shitty Miller 64.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/105/43043/
http://www.brewchief.com/review.cfm?id=852

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/mgd-64-review#slide-7

zzyzzx says

edvard2 says

Note that they drink the crappiest beer and haven't read that there's actually some good beer made, primarily from microwbreweries and what's more

You do understand that to a LOT of people, beer is (for the most part) beer. I mean brand almost doesn't matter, just as long as you stay away from that shitty Miller 64.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/105/43043/

http://www.brewchief.com/review.cfm?id=852

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/mgd-64-review#slide-7

Eh, this is one of the things where I sorta agree with Edvard. Theres good beer and theres crap beer. And while a crap beer(American mass manufactured lagers as has been pointed out) is better than nothing, it pales in comparison to some of the delicious micros, as well as nearly anything produced in England, Ireland, Holland, and Germany. Not to mention a host of other beers from around the world.

I would disagree though that Republicans shun this sort of knowledge. I know myself and the military officer I alluded to earlier loves us some obscure beers, even introducing one to Yardhouse in its Long Beach infancy in the mid 90's that remains on its menu to this day.