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I feel like Winnie the Pooh


               
2014 Aug 9, 5:36am   14,291 views  37 comments

by JH   follow (0)  

Why oh why do my leaders insist on playing with fire?!?!?

Though the unfolding humanitarian crisis in Iraq may have left the Obama administration little choice but to act, the concern is the limited US aerial campaign has now stirred the hornet's nest without doing anything to decisively degrade ISIS.
And there could be one other unintended consequence. A rally-round-the-flag effect may now strengthen the ISIS position in the global jihadist movement, leading to even higher levels of fundraising and recruitment.
In recent months the group has faced fierce criticism from al Qaeda and others for its declaration of an Islamic caliphate and its brutal methods. But with the budding Islamic State now being bombarded by the "Crusaders," such criticisms may fade, at least for a time.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/world/meast/syria-iraq-terror-havens/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Have we learned nothing from every damn conflict? If the justification is oil, I will pay $20/gal to get my money and my fellow Americans out of that godforsakenland.

#politics

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1   Tenpoundbass   @   2014 Aug 9, 5:56am  

I wonder if he would have called those strikes on the day that he did, had the Russian American Embassy not had that Birthday Message projected on it.

Calling in an airstrike is a cheap way to flex your muscles.

2   JH   @   2014 Aug 9, 7:28am  

Call it Crazy says

How many eyes do we have left since 1945?

3   Bellingham Bill   @   2014 Aug 9, 9:28am  

I have zero problem with waxing these extremist shitheads.

They want a war with us, we'll give it to them, tamped down and overflowing, as WSC once said.

We shouldn't have invaded in 2003, but Isolationism doesn't work, either.

The Israelis recently demonstrated to the world the proper application of retaliatory force.

Don't. Fuck. With. Us. Capiche?

4   JH   @   2014 Aug 9, 9:45am  

Bellingham Bill says

Isolationism doesn't work, either

and we know that because...?

5   komputodo   @   2014 Aug 9, 12:43pm  

You have to admire these people that want to send others to fight and die.

6   lostand confused   @   2014 Aug 9, 12:55pm  

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later that this ,"Islamic state" was actually created/funded back then by the CIA to overthrow Sadaam. That was what we did with the Taliban and Al-Qeada.

7   JH   @   2014 Aug 9, 1:29pm  

Call it Crazy says

“Small groups from a number of al-Qaeda affiliates have defected to ISIS,”

Oh my this is actually scary. I had heard al qaeda was not interested in isis because it was even more extreme. But I guess it isn't surprising some extreme extremists would defect. Sympathy from US bombing will only add to the numbers.

8   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 9, 1:52pm  

LOL. You guys crack me up. If you have a hornets nest in your back yard you call the exterminator and destroy it. You don't say "oh the poor hornets, look how mean we are to them. If we just let them be, they will leave us alone."
I'm sure glad Obama has more brains then you lot.

9   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 9, 2:03pm  

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

If you have a hornets nest in your back yard you call the exterminator and destroy it.

Yep, right away..

We are the exterminators.

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

I'm sure glad Obama has more brains then you lot.

Then why did he wait and let ISIS grow and expand over the last year instead of getting them early?

He is an idiot. That does not change the fact that he has more brains then you lot.

10   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 9, 2:32pm  

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

He is an idiot. That does not change the fact that he has more brains then you lot.

He is an idiot, and I know I have more brains, because I would NEVER take that job!

LOL Call Crazy, I know Mrs. Call Crazy would disagree. Does she know you only pretended to clean the pool this weekend?

11   JH   @   2014 Aug 9, 3:16pm  

Strategist says

If you have a hornets nest in your back yard you call the exterminator and destroy it.

That's the great thing about Iraq I, Iraq II, and Iraq III. Iraq is NOT our backyard. NIMBY does not apply! I would never fly to Jersey and swat a hornet's nest in CiC's yard, even if it stimulated my personal economy.

12   bob2356   @   2014 Aug 9, 4:38pm  

Strategist says

If you have a hornets nest in your back yard you call the exterminator and destroy it.

The middle east is our back yard? How does that work? Why aren't we swatting hornets nests all the places that don't have oil? GIve it up, the US military only exists to protect corporate profits.

13   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 12:28am  

JH says

That's the great thing about Iraq I, Iraq II, and Iraq III. Iraq is NOT our backyard. NIMBY does not apply! I would never fly to Jersey and swat a hornet's nest in CiC's yard, even if it stimulated my personal economy.

bob2356 says

The middle east is our back yard? How does that work? Why aren't we swatting hornets nests all the places that don't have oil? GIve it up, the US military only exists to protect corporate profits.

19 hornets loaded with venom had no problem stinging us right in the ass 11 years ago.
The world is getting smaller with each passing day. We can see them in their own nest, and they can come sting us in the ass within hours.

14   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 12:31am  

Call it Crazy says

JH says

I would never fly to Jersey and swat a hornet's nest in CiC's yard, even if it stimulated my personal economy.

Nice guy, I thought you'd help me. I was even going to sell you some water! I'd even send you some snow in the winter!

Water from your pool? The NSA told me your grand kids pee in there.

15   bob2356   @   2014 Aug 10, 3:33am  

Strategist says

19 hornets loaded with venom had no problem stinging us right in the ass 11 years ago.

The world is getting smaller with each passing day. We can see them in their own nest, and they can come sting us in the ass within hours

Yep 19 saudis. When are we going in?

16   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 3:43am  

bob2356 says

Strategist says

19 hornets loaded with venom had no problem stinging us right in the ass 11 years ago.

The world is getting smaller with each passing day. We can see them in their own nest, and they can come sting us in the ass within hours

Yep 19 saudis. When are we going in?

They were young Islamists. We were not attacked by a country, we were attacked by a religion.

17   New Renter   @   2014 Aug 10, 4:05am  

bob2356 says

Strategist says

19 hornets loaded with venom had no problem stinging us right in the ass 11 years ago.

The world is getting smaller with each passing day. We can see them in their own nest, and they can come sting us in the ass within hours

Yep 19 saudis. When are we going in?

Going?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-21350437

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskan_Village

18   bob2356   @   2014 Aug 10, 5:18am  

New Renter says

Going?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-21350437

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskan_Village

No,no,no going as in going in after the people who financed the 9/11 attackers and most of the terrorism in the last 30 years. The saudis.

Strategist says

They were young Islamists. We were not attacked by a country, we were attacked by a religion.

So why did we attack 2 countries over 9/11? You can't have it both ways dude.

You dodged my question (as expected). Why isn't the worlds policeman going anywhere that doesn't have oil? North Korea and Pakistan are bigger threats than isis. One of them is an ally. The only thing american is a policeman for these days is multinationals, especially oil.

19   JH   @   2014 Aug 10, 5:54am  

bob2356 says

So why did we attack 2 countries over 9/11? You can't have it both ways dude.

I believe part of the motivation for this weeks bombings is to help people who can't help themselves. You know that's what we do...think Rwanda for example.

20   bob2356   @   2014 Aug 10, 6:32am  

Call it Crazy says

bob2356 says

So why did we attack 2 countries over 9/11?

We attacked 1 country over 9/11.

True, we attacked one country for no good reason other than it had the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world.

21   Robert Sproul   @   2014 Aug 10, 6:41am  

Strategist says

you call the exterminator and destroy it.

You overestimate the American War Machine. Its goals are profits not "victories"
Good thing, as Grenada (!?) was our last decisive "Victory".

22   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 6:42am  

bob2356 says

Strategist says

They were young Islamists. We were not attacked by a country, we were attacked by a religion.

So why did we attack 2 countries over 9/11? You can't have it both ways dude.

You dodged my question (as expected). Why isn't the worlds policeman going anywhere that doesn't have oil? North Korea and Pakistan are bigger threats than isis. One of them is an ally. The only thing american is a policeman for these days is multinationals, especially oil.

We bomb the militants in Pakistan all the time. We have troops in Korea, Japan, and Germany. No oil in any of the 4 countries. Why we don't go after N. Korea? We should. We should also knock out Iran's nukes, but we have too much opposition and not enough support.

23   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 6:45am  

JH says

bob2356 says

So why did we attack 2 countries over 9/11? You can't have it both ways dude.

I believe part of the motivation for this weeks bombings is to help people who can't help themselves. You know that's what we do...think Rwanda for example.

Well, there you are. We should have overthrown Assad too, but everyone hates the policeman even if he is looking out for their own interest.

24   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 6:48am  

bob2356 says

Call it Crazy says

bob2356 says

So why did we attack 2 countries over 9/11?

We attacked 1 country over 9/11.

True, we attacked one country for no good reason other than it had the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world.

That's not why we attacked Iraq. At that time we were importing $10 billion worth of oil, while the cost of invading Iraq was expected to be $50 billion. No one in their right minds will spend $50 to steal $10. It's cheaper to just buy it.

25   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 6:49am  

Robert Sproul says

Strategist says

you call the exterminator and destroy it.

You overestimate the American War Machine. Its goals are profits not "victories"

Good thing, as Grenada (!?) was our last decisive "Victory".

It's a myth. Don't believe it.

26   New Renter   @   2014 Aug 10, 9:47am  

Strategist says

Why we don't go after N. Korea?

We did once. It scared China. It got ugly.

27   Strategist   @   2014 Aug 10, 9:54am  

New Renter says

Strategist says

Why we don't go after N. Korea?

We did once. It scared China. It got ugly.

If China thinks we would want to invade them, they are dumber then us.

28   Bellingham Bill   @   2014 Aug 10, 10:26am  

Strategist says

No one in their right minds will spend $50 to steal $10. It's cheaper to just buy it.

Depends on who's paying the $50 vs. whose pocket the $10 goes in.

The deal with Iraq was that Saddam & Sons weren't going to let US or UK oil interests in the country once he got out of the sanctions box.

It was going to be French, Russian, Chinese etc. multinationals in our place.

Blair's being Bush's little poodle makes a little more sense now, yes?

29   Bellingham Bill   @   2014 Aug 10, 10:29am  

Strategist says

If China thinks we would want to invade them, they are dumber then us.

Rearranging the geopolitical balance in China's backyard to our liking is no longer our call.

That was what 1950 was about (and 1965-75 for that matter).

Plus there's way too many people in the ROK way too close to the border to set off a shooting war there.

Not to mention people who join the US Army don't sign up for saving the world, actually.

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