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ISIS can go to hell, but I'm not going to usher them there


               
2014 Sep 3, 5:46am   25,169 views  60 comments

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Joe Biden is getting all pissy today:

(CNN) -- Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday issued a sharp warning to ISIS militants, saying after the United States is done grieving the death of two American journalists, their killers will have to answer for their actions.
"They should know we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice," he forcefully told an audience at an event on the New Hampshire-Maine border. "Because hell is where they will reside. Hell is where they will reside."

Why do we have to hold ISIS's hand to show them how to walk through the gates of hell? Because 2 journalists got knocked off? Give me a break. ISIS already lives in hell. Been to Syria or Iraq lately?

Terrorism is all about taking a small issue and making it an international incident. They are winning. Can we please return to the Clinton foreign policy? Shoot some fucking cruise missiles to break up their parties and then move on. We don't have the time, money, stomach, or resources for more wars. And don't get me started on Obama's pledge today to defend Ukraine. WTF

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/03/politics/joe-biden-isis-gates-of-hell/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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1   dublin hillz   @   2014 Sep 3, 5:55am  

The best professor is always an atomic bomb and clients have not been known to post reviews...

2   JH   @   2014 Sep 3, 6:12am  

dublin hillz says

The best professor is always an atomic bomb and clients have not been known to post reviews...

I used to be soft and think that was a terrible idea.

It wouldn't add to the deficit because we already have them...and it would reduce disposal costs.

3   Tenpoundbass   @   2014 Sep 3, 6:15am  

This guy had dual citizenship to Israel, he had no eph'n business over there in the first place. What an elitist endeavor he took. It's bad he paid the ultimate price for his stupidity, and sheer lack of respect for other people. These people are at War, they aren't your subject of a Youtube Video or some freelance journalist trying to catch his next self gratifying accolade on Film.

We'll probably go to war now over this, thanks to these guys inconsiderate acts.
The Other Genius that was killed last week, was there doing a documentary on pretending to be an Islamic convert. He was trying to infiltrate a terrorist training camp so he could document it.

Unless you're over there for official government business, then you should tread on your accord, and consider all consequences for your actions.

Like we don't have enough shit to deal with. And Obama should have dealt with ISIS along time ago, to use this as an excuse to do his job, or waiting for the result that we got, is fucked up for him as well.

4   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2014 Sep 3, 6:27am  

JH says

Terrorism is all about taking a small issue and making it an international incident. They are winning. Can we please return to the Clinton foreign policy? Shoot some fucking cruise missiles to break up their parties and then move on. We don't have the time, money, stomach, or resources for more wars. And don't get me started on Obama's pledge today to defend Ukraine. WTF

Word.

Terrorism is of minimal importance compared to heart disease, cancer, illiteracy, poverty, cholera, and typhoid.

It's a war on a tactic. What's next, War on Flanking or Small Unit Infiltration?

Don't even get me started on the encirclement and harassment of democratic Russia.

5   JH   @   2014 Sep 3, 6:46am  

CaptainShuddup says

Unless you're over there for official government business, then you should tread on your accord, and consider all consequences for your actions.

And I don't even see any legitimate government business over there right now, so yep.

I'm okay with trying to negotiate for somebody's release, provided the demands are reasonable. But you knew the risks when you traveled there...starting an international war should never be the outcome of somebody's travel blog.

6   JH   @   2014 Sep 3, 6:51am  

thunderlips11 says

Terrorism is of minimal importance compared to heart disease, cancer, illiteracy, poverty, cholera, and typhoid.

Terrorism killed 3k people on 9/11. Then it killed many more than that when we walked young Americans to their deaths in the hellscapes of Afghanistan and Iraq. Terrorism won a battle on 9/11, but it won a bigger battle when we sacrificed our own people AFTER 9/11. We seem headed that direction with ISIS, unfortunately.

Yet compared to the rest of your list, the numbers are nearly insignificant!

7   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 7:24am  

thunderlips11 says

Don't even get me started on the encirclement and harassment of democratic Russia.

Ha ha ha - Poor Russia, We are so mean to them.

8   dublin hillz   @   2014 Sep 3, 7:47am  

thunderlips11 says

JH says



Terrorism is all about taking a small issue and making it an international incident. They are winning. Can we please return to the Clinton foreign policy? Shoot some fucking cruise missiles to break up their parties and then move on. We don't have the time, money, stomach, or resources for more wars. And don't get me started on Obama's pledge today to defend Ukraine. WTF


Word.


Terrorism is of minimal importance compared to heart disease, cancer, illiteracy, poverty, cholera, and typhoid.


It's a war on a tactic. What's next, War on Flanking or Small Unit Infiltration?


Don't even get me started on the encirclement and harassment of democratic Russia.

"Democratic" russia is ranked 148th in the world in freedom of the press index.

"Ever since Vladimir Putin returned to
the Kremlin in May 2012, more and more draconian
laws have been adopted. Activists, news media and
bloggers have all been targeted. Defamation has been
criminalized again, websites are being blacklisted and
the range of activities that can be construed as “high
treason” is now much broader. “Traditional values” are
used to justify new restrictions on freedom of
information, including the criminalization of “homosexual
propaganda” and “insulting the feelings of believers.”

Did you possibly mistype and mean to say demonic russia lol?

http://rsf.org/index2014/data/index2014_en.pdf

9   RWSGFY   @   2014 Sep 3, 7:50am  

JH says

And don't get me started on Obama's pledge today to defend Ukraine. WTF

It's called "nuclear non-proliferation", silly. Ukraine was guaranteed security assurances for giving up 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world in 1994. Reneging on that now means that "nukes for security assurances" deals would be impossible in the future.

10   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2014 Sep 3, 9:58am  

dublin hillz says

"Democratic" russia is ranked 148th in the world in freedom of the press index.

Got it. Russia has poor press freedom.
When do we start sanctioning Chinese and Vietnamese imports, Saudi gas, etc.?

You'll note that all are "Black" - worse than Russia. Saudi Arabia is black. So is Vietnam, where worker's rights advocates were just pulled right off the street and into prison indefinitely. No trial.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/us-alarm-vietnam-democracy-activists-jailed

Note the lack of sanctions, just a few "oh Dear" peeps from the State Department, like they did when Bahrain crushed peaceful democracy protesters with US built Saudi owned tanks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12975832
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12817106
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/0401/Bahrain-s-calculated-campaign-of-intimidation

How about imprisonment and 90 lashes for the victim of a gang-rape, and then going after her lawyer, too, first banning him from receiving a human rights award - now he's in jail...?
http://preview.ifex.org.nmsrv.com/saudi_arabia/2008/11/19/saudi_arabia_bans_lawyer_from_receiving/
https://www.ifex.org/saudi_arabia/2014/06/26/lawyer_jailed_on_trial/
Deportations for Christians?
Running smooth and easy... with the tiger... Exxon, Exxon... where 'dem sanctions at?

Why does only Russia merit sanctions and US pressure?

Ukraine isn't exactly a beacon of press freedom. Just as Red as Russia. You'll remember this incident, where a sitting MP backed by thugs attacked a television station and forced a resignation of the station manager with violence. Several foreign reporters have been snatched by the Ukrainian government since the Putsch there.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/ukrainian-mp-assaults-television-chief-pro-russian-miroshnichenko-panteleymonov

http://euronews.com/2014/03/19/ukranian-tv-boss-assaulted-and-forced-to-resign-by-far-right-svoboda-mps/

MP Miroshnichenko sits on the Ukrainian Rada Freedom of Speech committee! hahahah

Reporters Without Borders condemns the draconian restrictions on freedom of information envisaged in a draft law that the Ukrainian parliament approved on first reading today.

If adopted, the proposed law would allow the National Security and Defence Council (RNBO) to suppress the dissemination of any national or international media or block any website on the grounds of protecting “security and national interests” without referring to a court.

The sanctions envisaged by the bill – whose second reading is scheduled for later today – include “limiting or banning the activity of media or other sources of information, including on the Internet” and “banning the production or dissemination of any printed product or other informational content.”

It also says “the broadcasting of television or radio stations” and “the use of Ukrainian broadcast frequencies” can be banned.


http://en.rsf.org/ukraine-ukrainian-parliament-approves-very-12-08-2014,46793.html

Let's cut the crap - the US only uses Humanitarian/Freedom when it benefits the economic interests of the .1% or wants to invade. When humanitarianism/freedom is inconvenient issue to push with a country, you get a few noises but nothing substantial.

I hear the Iraqi Army took Kuwati babies out of incubators...

11   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 10:32am  

thunderlips11 says

dublin hillz says

"Democratic" russia is ranked 148th in the world in freedom of the press index.

Got it. Russia has poor press freedom.

When do we start sanctioning Chinese and Vietnamese imports, Saudi gas, etc.?

We are not imposing sanctions for not respecting freedom of the press. We only impose sanctions when our interests are at stake. Russia will do what Russia is gonna do, and there is not much we can do about that. We are not gonna go to war with them. A better strategy would be to make a trade. Our real enemy is Islamic terrorism. Let the Russians have Ukraine in exchange for Syria and Iran.

12   JH   @   2014 Sep 3, 10:43am  

Strategist says

Our real enemy is Islamic terrorism. Let the Russians have Ukraine in exchange for Syria and Iran.

Disagree. We have literally made a business out of fighting commies and terrorists since 1945. Our enemy is our inability to create a functional economy that doesn't require an enormous military. Let the Russians have all that shit in eastern Europe and middle east. It is all different circles of hell.

13   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 10:54am  

JH says

Strategist says

Our real enemy is Islamic terrorism. Let the Russians have Ukraine in exchange for Syria and Iran.

Disagree. We have literally made a business out of fighting commies and terrorists since 1945. Our enemy is our inability to create a functional economy that doesn't require an enormous military. Let the Russians have all that shit in eastern Europe and middle east. It is all different circles of hell.

Russia itself is a well educated country that wants progress. Putin is the asshole here. Our true enemy is radical Islam for which we do not need nuclear weapons or a million tanks. We need drones, lots and lots of drones. We also need a tough President. Not the pussy cat in the White House.

14   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 11:00am  

Call it Crazy says

sbh says

"Lead, act, do something you dithering LIBTARD!"

Yeah, I know, I'm the ONLY one in this country that thinks he's a fucking loser...

*

*

Hmmmmm... maybe it's NOT just me...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

I switched from approval to disapproval of Obama starting January 2014. He is a weak President, just like Jimmy. It's time for him to be a community leader of the black population instead of President. I believe building race relations is where his skills truly are, and where he will have earned his Noble Prize.

15   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 11:29am  

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

It's time for him to be a community leader of the black population instead of President. I believe building DIVIDING race relations is where his skills truly are, and where he will have earned his Noble Prize.

There, fixed it for you...

Dividing.... Yep, that's where his abilities truly lie...

Thanks Call Crazy. Your spell checker works better than mine.

16   JH   @   2014 Sep 3, 11:44am  

Strategist says

JH says

Strategist says

Our real enemy is Islamic terrorism. Let the Russians have Ukraine in exchange for Syria and Iran.

Disagree. We have literally made a business out of fighting commies and terrorists since 1945. Our enemy is our inability to create a functional economy that doesn't require an enormous military. Let the Russians have all that shit in eastern Europe and middle east. It is all different circles of hell.

Russia itself is a well educated country that wants progress. Putin is the asshole here. Our true enemy is radical Islam for which we do not need nuclear weapons or a million tanks. We need drones, lots and lots of drones. We also need a tough President. Not the pussy cat in the White House.

You want Dick back. He did a lot of good with his belligerence

17   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 11:48am  

JH says

Russia itself is a well educated country that wants progress. Putin is the asshole here. Our true enemy is radical Islam for which we do not need nuclear weapons or a million tanks. We need drones, lots and lots of drones. We also need a tough President. Not the pussy cat in the White House.

You want Dick back. He did a lot of good with his belligerence

I just want a President who can do 2 things. Just 2 things and nothing more.
1. Get the damn economy going again.
2. Start solving our Islamic problem. Bowing to Muslim kings does not work.

18   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2014 Sep 3, 11:59am  

Strategist says

Russia itself is a well educated country that wants progress. Putin is the asshole here. Our true enemy is radical Islam for which we do not need nuclear weapons or a million tanks. We need drones, lots and lots of drones. We also need a tough President. Not the pussy cat in the White House.

Putin is well liked, like FDR in Russia. I've already explained why - doubling the GDP per head in about a decade after coming into office. Before he was in power, Russia had a Sri Lanka/Ukraine GDP per head. Now it's around Brazilian levels - in just a decade.

Putin only has two opposing groups: The Ultra-ultra orthodox nuts who want Imperial Russia Part 2 and the Compradore Class of Lawyers who remember how much commission they made selling out the country via corruption, "legal issues", and influence back in the 90s.

19   Strategist   @   2014 Sep 3, 12:10pm  

thunderlips11 says

Strategist says

Russia itself is a well educated country that wants progress. Putin is the asshole here. Our true enemy is radical Islam for which we do not need nuclear weapons or a million tanks. We need drones, lots and lots of drones. We also need a tough President. Not the pussy cat in the White House.

Strategist, Putin is beloved, like FDR in Russia. I've already explained why - doubling the GDP per head in about a decade after coming into office. Russia has net immigration now.

It wasn't Putin. It was more capitalism because of Gorbachev that produced the success Russia dot in the last 20 years. He deserved the Noble Peace Prize, which is why he is my favorite world leader. It was Gorbachev with Shevardnadze, who saw communism had failed, and that democracy and capitalism is the only way to go. Putin is just holding back the potential Russia has with his dictatorial leanings. He does not realize the future of Russia and the future of the world lies with the proven ideology of the West. Eventually he will be gone and Russia will get another Gorbachev.
The real problem of the West, Russia and the rest of the world remains Islamic radical ideology.

20   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2014 Sep 3, 12:12pm  

Strategist says

Putin is just holding back the potential Russia has with his dictatorial leanings. He does not realize the future of Russia and the future of the world lies with the proven ideology of the West. Eventually he will be gone and Russia will get another Gorbachev.

Strategist, Russia had shock Capitalism right away at the start of the 90s. By the end of it, it was a basket case run by oligarch-mafiosos.

Putin is the one who reversed the downward slide of Russia, put the Oligarchs in their place, and raised the standard of living.

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